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so if it becomes legal does anyone really believe everyone will be growing? and what about the quality?
so if it becomes legal does anyone really believe everyone will be growing? and what about the quality?
What about the qaulity, Im not growing for you or anyone. I grow for myself and the quality will be top shelf. Most of the people will also be doing this. I do take care of my friends and they take care of me. Thats the way it should be.
hammerhead, your "1.3lb" plant is 3 ounces DRY at most. when does your ship come out of the clouds?
yknow you have to dry the shit before you weigh it up right?
I could careless what you guys say. Im not stupid you asshats. Ea cola was over an oz dry. you guys are on crack if you think this is 3 oz. This plant was not done in this pic as u can tell ya bunch of Moran's. I will just harvest my 3lb plants form my 5x5. Leave me the fuck out of you games. Im sorry I can grow better then you oh wait no im not lol.
Just in case you did not notice your pall was banned. We all know how valuable his info was or are u just following in his footsteps.
But ya did. I got 1.3lbs from that 1 plant. You can call bullshit if your want to it's your opinion. I know its true. Where did I say hydro hut was used if I did I miss spoke. I never used a hut but I have used a Jarden 150 that plant was grown in a 10x12 flower room with her very own 1k yo can see that it was not in any tent.
In respect to monetary compensation, in this area of business, if your business plan is not fluid enough to allow for repositioning and maneuvering in a dynamic and ever changing market, you need to get out while you're ahead. People are going to have to change their business model in order to survive. It happens in a capitalistic society. Those who don't have the business sense or intuition to change with the market will die off.
There are benefits and relief in the bill, that I can't argue. Pro's of the bill -
1) Anyone can have an oz. in their possession without fear of arrest or even a ticket. As it is now, non mmj smokers will get a ticket and $100 fine.
2) Any person can grow in their residence, a 5x5 plot. Plant count is irrelevant. Any amount you can harvest from the plot, is allowed to be stored on the premises of the plot.
3) It allows for research. Awesome!
4) The biggest pro to the bill imo - It promotes an active hemp industry. This is huge. This will mean a lot of jobs and money.
5) The bill does allow for amendments by statewide vote.
6) I read that the laws would be retro active, and anyone currently in jail for mj that met this bills requirements would be released. I can not find that language in the current version of the bill however.
Now, here are some negatives or at least questionable points -
1) The bill states it does not override Prop215. Great. BUT, Prop215 has no plant guidelines in it. The new bill has a 5x5 plot limit. Even though the bill states it does not change anything with Prop215, it also says "Notwithstanding any other statute or current law" (Notwithstanding - in spite of. regardless of) therefore, does this mean the new bill will limit mmj patients to a 5x5 plot? It certainly seems like an argument could be made to that effect since Prop 215 does not discuss plant limits or quantity of medicine. This is my primary concern with the bill.
2) It does not allow anyone under 21 to smoke. That is wrong imo. If you are 18, you can buy cigs, go to war etc. If someone is old enough to fight for our country, they should be allowed to smoke as well. Your 19 y/o soldier nephew can kill people, but can't smoke a J.
3) If you go over the 5x5 plot size, go to jail. (??) This isn't so bad for the casual smoker. But heavy smokers like me can burn through a 5x5 area of OG Kush (small small yields) before the next crop finishes. This will effect outdoor growers far more than indoor. If you can only grow a 5x5' plant outdoors once a year, that isn't going to last even the casual smoker until the next years harvest.
4) It requires a license and zoning permits similar to alcohol. Now, the actual cost of an alcohol license in my area is about $15-25K, and up to $50K USD, depending on location. I know a lot of bar owners and managers, and all have told me it took $100-$150K to get the license, after greasing the right hands. This seems to tip the law in favor of corporate America, not the individual smoker.
5) Considering Richard Lee's current monopoly in Oakland with cannabis clubs it seems to solidify that monopoly. IMO, RL is a douche and is out solely for $$$$, not for patients or smokers or even the plant. But, that is a personal opinion, and not necessarily a wise argument to pursue, so I won't. Just rubs me the wrong way.
6) You can't purchase more than oz. It has to be purchased through a retailer. Your buddy with the 5x5' plot can't sell it to you. He can give it to you, but how many people are going to give away ounces when they can only grow in a 5'x5'?
7) There is supposed to be a $50 per oz tax. That means, if selling retail it's $800 per Lb. in tax. It is extremely difficult to speculate on a non regulated market, so attempting to guess what prices will to is pointless. Again, can not find this language in the current version. If we aren't going to impose a tax, what good is this bill?
8) If local authorities are left to regulate the industry, then people in the Bay, NoCal, and LA are golden, but really the rest of the state is screwed. San Diego is still fighting prop 215. They are not going to allow commercial operations, neither will San Berdoo, Marin, or any other hard liner county. The state needs to set the rules here.
Just some thoughts.
Now before anyone bashes me for being on the fence and not 100% in support of the bill, please understand, I could care less about money. I want people incarcerated for mj to be released. I want freedom for all who choose to use mj to be able to do so without fear of LEO. I think legalization and taxation, if done properly would be beneficial to the people of California and the economy. I don't want to hear or see anyone getting their house invaded and pets or people killed over mj. I fully support legalization, I'm just not sure this is the correct way to go about it. I hope that makes sense.
nope I have both. my plants sometimes cant handle the tent so they go into the room. Most of these strains are Sativas. I see plants outdoor that yield 8lbs all the time. I do use my 150 for most of my grows. If the plant gets taller then 4 feet I move her into the other room. I was using the tent to do my breeding but I have stopped making seeds. I have so many I dont have room to properly store them. I just popped my last Heavy duty fruity 5 beans 4 popped these where 5 year old seeds. 1 has emerged from the soil waiting for the others. HDF should yield me 1lb in my tent. I use LST and supper crop to accomplish this. I had some nugs off that girl that where so hard it would hurt my fingers breaking it up to smoke.