Green House Seed Co. Trainwreck, Cheese & Lemon Skunk
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We've grown and cloned seed from all these breeders! (from breeder packs sent to our crew by Scott and Ingemar and samples from Franco. WW from both the latter.) There's not much between them.
The purpose here isn't to discredit any of them over any other. The purpose is to find out the truth! Here we want to know if the Lemon Skunk currently marketed by GHSco comes from the stable of Ingemar and his line of Lemon.
This is nothing to do with Shantibaba. Although, feel free to drop us a link to the thread he quotes DocLeaf on and we will reproach him in person.
What you have to understand is that I n I nah give a fuck about all the carry-on palaver behind seedbank conspiracies, that's bullshit; And that we can be far ruder and mischievous than this if called upon. :wink:
Mind out before you find out who your speaking to!
Erb, Roots, n Culture,
Peace out
DocLeaf
The purpose here isn't to discredit any of them over any other. The purpose is to find out the truth! Here we want to know if the Lemon Skunk currently marketed by GHSco comes from the stable of Ingemar and his line of Lemon.
This is nothing to do with Shantibaba. Although, feel free to drop us a link to the thread he quotes DocLeaf on and we will reproach him in person.
What you have to understand is that I n I nah give a fuck about all the carry-on palaver behind seedbank conspiracies, that's bullshit; And that we can be far ruder and mischievous than this if called upon. :wink:
Mind out before you find out who your speaking to!
Erb, Roots, n Culture,
Peace out
DocLeaf
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Dalaihempy
DocLeaf said:We've grown and cloned seed from all these breeders! (from breeder packs sent to our crew by Scott and Ingemar and samples from Franco. WW from both the latter.) There's not much between them.
The purpose here isn't to discredit any of them over any other. The purpose is to find out the truth! Here we want to know if the Lemon Skunk currently marketed by GHSco comes from the stable of Ingemar and his line of Lemon.
This is nothing to do with Shantibaba. Although, feel free to drop us a link to the thread he quotes DocLeaf on and we will reproach him in person.
What you have to understand is that I n I nah give a fuck about all the carry-on palaver behind seedbank conspiracies, that's bullshit; And that we can be far ruder and mischievous than this if called upon. :wink:
Mind out before you find out who your speaking to!
Erb, Roots, n Culture,
Peace out
DocLeaf
Trueth is and has been in front of every one for years its easy to work out Doc can arjan / Inigma ? or franco name the plants used im betting no but can shanti im betting yes.
Who won the cup with the widow Shantibaba did not Inigma or franco fact.
DocLeaf said:
Try a little research something you seam to fall short on.
franco.gh said:
Funny how franco failed to say that the Lemon Skunk / also called called Citral in erly 90s won the Bio Cup in 94.
7th Cannabis Cup (1994) Winners
Category: Cannabis Cup
1/Jack Herer - Sensi Seeds
2/Citral Skunk - Greenhouse Tolstraat
3/AK-47 - Grey Area
Category: Coffeeshop Cup
Greenhouse Tolstraat
Lucky Mothers
Grey Area
Category: Bio Cup
1/Citral Skunk - Greenhouse Tolstraat
2/Orange Bud - Positronics
3/Northern Lights - Positronics
Stop talking shit Doc like you had any part in breeding the widow or know the facts.
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Dalaihempy
DocLeaf said:whatever... hehe
Facts Doc not whatever something you fall short on
Troll. Please read the words in the posts before replying. You're showing yourself up.
Troll. We smoke White Butterfly from Arjan before White Widow was on the menu in Amsterdam.
Like I n I say ..."whatever".
Later
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...art=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2&hl=en
Dalaihempy said:
Troll. We smoke White Butterfly from Arjan before White Widow was on the menu in Amsterdam.
Like I n I say ..."whatever".
Later
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...art=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2&hl=en
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Dalaihempy
Dalaihempy said:
We smoke White Butterfly from Arjan before White Widow was on the menu in Amsterdam.
Yes when shanti was part owner of GHS and in house breeder who breed it an unrealesed white line but you know this right lol.
Troll on doc troll on.
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Guest
Hempy is dead right, Lemon Skunk is the old Citral cut that was first distributed by Positronics in 1994. Posi used to sell oodles of clones direct from the shopk, so that Citral clone will be widely available in the Netherlands to this day. Wernard Bruining who owned Positronics says the Citral is his favourite smoke and he still grows the cut outdoors in his back garden. He's worked the Citral cut into a seedline called Double Fun. Seen some great reports of Double Fun, and the GHS Lemon Skunk could be pretty good as that Citral cut is probably pretty stable. I don't know if the Citral was/is a pure Pakistani line or a Pakistani/Skunk hybrid. Positronics later offered a Citral seedline that was a Citral x Skunk male cross, I think Mau made it when he was working at Posi, before he setup Nirvana Seeds. Nirvana sell a Citral seedline:
Looking at pics of Wernard's outdoor Citrals, they look like Skunk/indica hybrids to me, the leaves look like there is definitely an Afghan/Pakistan indica heritage there, but I have no idea who created the Citral cut or where it came from, Wernard might know, but to be honest, it's probably a case that one or two people in Holland really know and everyone else can only speculate. Some more infro from franco about the number of phenos likely to be found in a pack and the differences would be nice, some pics of the different phenos would be nice too.
Amen. Shantibaba bred White Widow from South Indian and Brazilian parents. He took the parents with him when he left GHS so all other White Widows other than the GHS offering up until Shanti left and the Mr Nice version (Black Widow) are quite simply, not the original White Widow as only Shanti has the parents needed to create the strain. This information is widely available, has been for years, Ingemar probably created a 'white' strain and sold it to GHS who then resold it. The original Shantibaba Widow is quite a tall plant with thin leaves and looks like what it is, a sativa dom hybrid. Most other 'widows' especially the Ingemar/Sjamaan ones look much more indica. If you grow Nirvana or Dutch Passion 'White Widow' you will get indica dom plant that are quite short and squat, not at all like Shanti's original. Shanti has said he has no idea what GHS sold after he left, where the genes came from or what they were composed of, all he know is they weren't made from his parents as he took them with him.
I've often thought the imposter Dutch Widows I've smoked in Holland were either as pheno of Powerplant or a Powerplant hybrid, maybe some coffeeshops substituted Powerplant buds for Widow because the Widow name sold better and they hadn't got any Widow! Certainly, pretty much every coffeeshop in Amsterdam sold a Widow and I don't remember smoking any that I thought was the same as the Shanti Widow I grew at home, more indica and bland.
BTW, Docleaf, are you coming to the icmag cup? Wanna see if you kiss upto Arjan and franco in real life like you do online, fanboy....
Looking at pics of Wernard's outdoor Citrals, they look like Skunk/indica hybrids to me, the leaves look like there is definitely an Afghan/Pakistan indica heritage there, but I have no idea who created the Citral cut or where it came from, Wernard might know, but to be honest, it's probably a case that one or two people in Holland really know and everyone else can only speculate. Some more infro from franco about the number of phenos likely to be found in a pack and the differences would be nice, some pics of the different phenos would be nice too.
franco.gh said:
Amen. Shantibaba bred White Widow from South Indian and Brazilian parents. He took the parents with him when he left GHS so all other White Widows other than the GHS offering up until Shanti left and the Mr Nice version (Black Widow) are quite simply, not the original White Widow as only Shanti has the parents needed to create the strain. This information is widely available, has been for years, Ingemar probably created a 'white' strain and sold it to GHS who then resold it. The original Shantibaba Widow is quite a tall plant with thin leaves and looks like what it is, a sativa dom hybrid. Most other 'widows' especially the Ingemar/Sjamaan ones look much more indica. If you grow Nirvana or Dutch Passion 'White Widow' you will get indica dom plant that are quite short and squat, not at all like Shanti's original. Shanti has said he has no idea what GHS sold after he left, where the genes came from or what they were composed of, all he know is they weren't made from his parents as he took them with him.
I've often thought the imposter Dutch Widows I've smoked in Holland were either as pheno of Powerplant or a Powerplant hybrid, maybe some coffeeshops substituted Powerplant buds for Widow because the Widow name sold better and they hadn't got any Widow! Certainly, pretty much every coffeeshop in Amsterdam sold a Widow and I don't remember smoking any that I thought was the same as the Shanti Widow I grew at home, more indica and bland.
BTW, Docleaf, are you coming to the icmag cup? Wanna see if you kiss upto Arjan and franco in real life like you do online, fanboy....
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Ganja Pasha said:
Please do some reading, I's always neutral in these things.
DocLeaf said:Hi Franco.
Please can you explain the correlation between Lemon Skunk and Chitral?
This dvd has confused us:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...art=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0&hl=en
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Chitral = frontier town in NWFP Pakistan.
Citral = (aka lemonal) either of a pair of terpenoids with the molecular formula C10H16O
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We used to smoke 'Chitral' sourced from Amsterdam at the turn of the century, at least once a month. Never did it taste of lemon , it was always spicy hash like in taste and fragrance.
Does GHSco Lemon descend from the same line of 'Lemon' that Ingemar produces up North? or is GHSco Lemon a completely different strain?
Many thanks for explaining
peace out
dLeaf
i.e. Chitral and Lemon are not the same thing.
hello peeps
im 6 weeks in to flower of gh trainwreck and the plants look exactly the same as the pics of the arcata one on here
out of 6 planted 5 hermied after 3 weeks
but pulled the balls off and they have done fine
before i planted the 6 i had previously planted 15 and not 1 germed
i would show you the pics but dont think im allowed yet for being a noob
im 6 weeks in to flower of gh trainwreck and the plants look exactly the same as the pics of the arcata one on here
out of 6 planted 5 hermied after 3 weeks
but pulled the balls off and they have done fine
before i planted the 6 i had previously planted 15 and not 1 germed
i would show you the pics but dont think im allowed yet for being a noob
AinSophAur
Member
I see a lot of people talking and very few growing. Keep the shit talking 'till after we get some quality feedback from the growers of these new seeds.
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The_Skunkist
I was just having a look on all these greenhouse videos ....
F##ck this is ininteresting :
Bad quality videos : Are the plants the same in all these different videos ? Perhaps but we can't see...
Always the same arguments :
...great great great , beautifull beautifull , so sticky ....
Arjan seems to talk to idiots ....
So, business is business ... How much does cost a cannabis cup ?
Look at my new poly holy hybrid , I call it Buck Mania ( cheese x trainwreck x blueberry x white widow x nycd ) , the seeds are females and all the plants very stable . It is a great great plant so beautifull and so sticky ...
You can produce 4 kilos using a 400w bulb with a minimum of 39% THC .
300$ 3 seeds .
F##ck this is ininteresting :
Bad quality videos : Are the plants the same in all these different videos ? Perhaps but we can't see...
Always the same arguments :
...great great great , beautifull beautifull , so sticky ....
Arjan seems to talk to idiots ....
So, business is business ... How much does cost a cannabis cup ?
Look at my new poly holy hybrid , I call it Buck Mania ( cheese x trainwreck x blueberry x white widow x nycd ) , the seeds are females and all the plants very stable . It is a great great plant so beautifull and so sticky ...
You can produce 4 kilos using a 400w bulb with a minimum of 39% THC .
300$ 3 seeds .
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Guest
hi, i know dna genetics have a new strain named lemon skunk, gh ls and dna ls are maybe related don't you think ?
DNA Genetics
Lemon Skunk
Lemon Skunk Cannabis Seeds
This strain is a cross between two Skunks, the chosen phenotype selected for its lemon characteristics. The Lemon mother has been kept for over 20 years in Las Vegas and the father was chosen here in Holland. The male was donated by Eddie, formally the owner of one of the oldest and most prestigious seed banks in the Netherlands. This original prize male was selected and used in many breeding projects throughout the years. The Lemon Skunk will grow tall and is a good yielder. She has great smelling buds. Her buds are light green with thick orange hairs. She has a high calyx to leaf ratio. This strain is the tastiest and sweetest if she is cut down between 50 and 56 days. We would like to thank the Lemon Man and Eddie for making this possible!
* Skunk
* 60% Sativa : 40% Indica
* Flowering Time: 8-9 weeks
* Yield: 400-500g/m2
DNA Genetics
Lemon Skunk
Lemon Skunk Cannabis Seeds
This strain is a cross between two Skunks, the chosen phenotype selected for its lemon characteristics. The Lemon mother has been kept for over 20 years in Las Vegas and the father was chosen here in Holland. The male was donated by Eddie, formally the owner of one of the oldest and most prestigious seed banks in the Netherlands. This original prize male was selected and used in many breeding projects throughout the years. The Lemon Skunk will grow tall and is a good yielder. She has great smelling buds. Her buds are light green with thick orange hairs. She has a high calyx to leaf ratio. This strain is the tastiest and sweetest if she is cut down between 50 and 56 days. We would like to thank the Lemon Man and Eddie for making this possible!
* Skunk
* 60% Sativa : 40% Indica
* Flowering Time: 8-9 weeks
* Yield: 400-500g/m2
C
cway
Guys,
All this fighting and bickering is nonense.. This is the kind of stuff that will keep Franco offline and not willing to answer any of our questions.... I too want to know all alot of this as I have purchased GHS seeds to find out the truth myself... I would like to know the processes used to make the Cheese, TW and Lemon Skunk and the parent lineage... As a GHS customer I think I have a right to know. Here is my TW.. Regardless of personal feelings all this trolling makes it hard to get real anwers.. Please keep all nonsense comments of this thread. Regardless of what people think GHS letting everyone use their spot for the cup speaks volume of character. If you dont like their seeds dont buy, dont like the thread dont look, but please everyone just chill out and smoke a fat one..
Im not on here as a GHS protector but we dont get anywhere with uncivil threads so If we want anwers lets try to behave..
Peace
All this fighting and bickering is nonense.. This is the kind of stuff that will keep Franco offline and not willing to answer any of our questions.... I too want to know all alot of this as I have purchased GHS seeds to find out the truth myself... I would like to know the processes used to make the Cheese, TW and Lemon Skunk and the parent lineage... As a GHS customer I think I have a right to know. Here is my TW.. Regardless of personal feelings all this trolling makes it hard to get real anwers.. Please keep all nonsense comments of this thread. Regardless of what people think GHS letting everyone use their spot for the cup speaks volume of character. If you dont like their seeds dont buy, dont like the thread dont look, but please everyone just chill out and smoke a fat one..
Im not on here as a GHS protector but we dont get anywhere with uncivil threads so If we want anwers lets try to behave..
Peace
hey docleafDocLeaf said:
dont know how to post pics on here yet only got allowed to post yesterday
lights on temp highest 27 lights off lowest 17 so dont think its that
and only the bottom of the plants hermied no balls in the canopy
every 3 days ive pulled them out and gone over every single branch
bit of a turd but has to be done
i grew 5 of the gh cheese before the tw and had 1 hermie in there also
missed that one and pollinated a whole room of cheese and blueberry
totally gutted but wont happen again
if you know how i can get pics on id love to show you as they really are lovely
E
ElectroSticky
AinSophAur said:
Wise words !!!!
I can only make an educated guess about those strains , i have the beans and will post some Pics eventually ...
The thing is most people dont post..educated guesses
or most people just dont have the pics to speak for them yet.... as a wise person sayd
But please ,
lets have an educated discution ok
