i think i seen something of the sort....except they werent burning wood they were burning animal sh*t...the look of discust on the folks faces as they were driving through the town was hilarious....the poo poo train....
... id say alot further than you can go on bullshit....yeah, it does give the pooh pooh train a bad name, that was funny
it's an old technology, but is pretty cost effective from what i've seen, not sure how far you can go on a bushel of shit through
You know, there are times when I even wonder why I care to pay attention about things that go on in the world. Its not like I have the power to really do anything about it on a worldly scale.
However, when many voices come together, it is like a chorus and CANNOT be ignored. Just by virtue of the fact that all of us are discussing this and many other points on this forum gives me hope for the future. I am certain that things we post about are talked about with others in our OWN personal lives and it mushrooms from there.
I am very appreciative of the interaction between us all on these forums...because it means we CARE about the world around us.
We may not always agree (the Founding Fathers didn't) on the course of action to take, but when we are talking about it, ideas come forth that may end with a great solution previously hidden from view.
Thanks to all of you for sharing ideas....remember, WE are the answer. If we fail to care, then all is truely lost.
Be safe this New Year...
Disco, You're right. Big Gov't. shouldn't subsidize anything. Oil, banks, insurance/investment co's and car manufacturing.... No business using MY tax dollar for their own ends. All of these have plenty of markup on their goods/services and if they mismanage their way to bankruptcy, so be it. Maybe the next one won't make the same mistakes. If they know that there is no REAL consequence for there stupidity, why should they change?
Great post... I'm always a little disappointed when a good heated political thread gets shut down. It's important that we argue these things out amongst ourselves... I know it makes me think & do more research about the issues.
Reading you guys talking about this reminded me of a radio show I heard the other night (I don't remember who...), anyways, he was talking about tax credits really being disguised expenditures. Accordingly, when you add up all these government expenditures (tax credits... both for business & personal). It's the biggest portion of the budget, bigger than defense, bigger than medicare & bigger than social security. We spend more on tax credits than anything else, why in the world did we send money to exxon/mobile last year???
So... I hate to agree with Ronald Reagan, but thinking about it this way... I guess government does spend too much... (on tax credits... oh, there's a lot of other places we could save money... but l'm sure we'll all have some disagreements to hammer out... although I think we can all agree to disband the DEA)
... but what the guy was saying was that by is numbers (I don't have any links or math to back me up here... just something to think about), we could more than balance the budget just by cutting out spending on tax credits.
Sorry this doesn't relate to oil...
Your conversation with Disco just made me think of it... I agree, (something for a different thread)
as someone who's dirt poor right now... I wonder how inflation will affect me, I don't drive much right now (for now... I use to have a two hour commute), but it's gonna drive up the cost of just about everything else (that has to be transported anyway). Now would be a great time for me to take on some debt and buy a house, (hopefully the next year or so).
Thanks for reminding me about the double dip... I forgot I'd just heard about that the other day (with the talk about inflation, I was thinking of interest rates), I won't be in a position to buy for awhile, so that's good news for me I guess.
That's what I'm hoping... just thinking of interest costs too, I guess I can minimize that with a high down and short terms.
They're already working on it. At least according to this story.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html
High fuel prices hit the poor first and hardest.
Bolivia Fuel Riots
The old woman makes a good point at the end. "As fuel prices increase my money becomes worthless."
During the great depression, my gramps who was an electrician by trade, in Buffalo NY, couldn't find a regular job for over 10 yrs. They just scraped to get by. Funny thing is that my dad, who was just a little kid, didn't remember it as being a terrible time. Things were just simpler then. Things certainly seem more complicated now.
We have over 100 years worth of natural gas in shale in the Eastern US alone...
Prices are going to go up significantly over the next decade, first because of global consumption and second because of debt related inflation.
The US govt on down to your local municipality has been borrowing too much and promising even more for decades now. All that debt has been monetized by the Fed and inflation is going to happen.
Switching to "Green" energy wont solve anything except make a few Washington elites extremely wealthy.
Cracking the shale to get the gas SUPPOSEDLY has been bad for the water table in some places it has been used. I don't know the wisdom of cracking underground rock with explosives... But I also don't know if the reports of pollution are real.
Yea "fracking" as they call it is bad stuff. They use all sorts of chemicals when they do that, they just pump it into the rock like it is never going to get into people's water. The midwest is covered in that shit because of Dick Cheney opening up federal land leases to mineral excavation. There are tens of thousands of natural gas wells destroying the water table of the midwest as we speak. It is fucking horrifying that it isn't a bigger story than it is.
Ever seen people that can ignite their water faucets because of gasoline seeping into the groundwater? Imagine natural gas in your well. Won't take a BIC lighter and contact with the liquid, a t-stat could do the trick.
High prices will stimulate research and development into alternative energy, expand exploration and drilling for new supplies, and people will buy smaller more efficient vehicles. All good things.