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DogBoy
Head,
I'm not convinced that aliens are a valid way to support your answer as you cant prove they do or dont exist and are therefore not able to add validity to any argument. I was kinda hoping to keep to subjects that are based on fact rather than possiblities.
I'm not convinced that aliens are a valid way to support your answer as you cant prove they do or dont exist and are therefore not able to add validity to any argument. I was kinda hoping to keep to subjects that are based on fact rather than possiblities.
Ok... forgetting the probability of undiscovered sentient life...DogBoy said:
1.Prove that coco could not understand said question.
2.Prove that a human infant could.
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arcticsun
1: of, relating to, or characteristic of humans2: consisting of humans3 a: having human form or attributes b: susceptible to or representative of the sympathies and frailties of human nature <such an inconsistency is very human — P. E. More>
— hu·man·ness
you don't even have to be born on earth or even actually be made by another human to be defined as human.
so..
you can never answer that question, you can only ask what is human?
therefor we have all the people here telling what is human and what is not. where does your perception of thought end? that is where humanity stops. thus everything you see hear and feel is human, as described in the law of one. your humanity is not defined by you, but your next in kind.
so the question is not how do I prove that I am human, it is how do YOU prove that I am human. which is easy, I think therefor I am!
— hu·man·ness
you don't even have to be born on earth or even actually be made by another human to be defined as human.
so..
you can never answer that question, you can only ask what is human?
therefor we have all the people here telling what is human and what is not. where does your perception of thought end? that is where humanity stops. thus everything you see hear and feel is human, as described in the law of one. your humanity is not defined by you, but your next in kind.
so the question is not how do I prove that I am human, it is how do YOU prove that I am human. which is easy, I think therefor I am!
According to the questions I have asked relating to your proof and casting doubt upon it... You cannot be correct, since your original statement stipulated :
"Prove beyond doubt that you are human.", and I doubt a human infant could fill your criteria for proof, and you cannot disprove the ability of Coco the gorilla.
Viola: doubt.
"Prove beyond doubt that you are human.", and I doubt a human infant could fill your criteria for proof, and you cannot disprove the ability of Coco the gorilla.
Viola: doubt.
besides, dogboy... you never answered my original challenge...
Define human... without an established definition, there can be no proof...
Define human... without an established definition, there can be no proof...
Grat3fulh3ad said:
This is the defintition that i found.
human
Belonging to man or mankind; having the qualities or attributes of a man; of or pertaining to man or to the race of man; as, a human voice; human shape; human nature; human sacrifices. "To err is human; to forgive, divine." (Pope)
Nope, They have to know ahead of time to migrate to the cemetary... As well as the fact you have excluded atheist from humanity... I know I am going to die, and need no imagined comfort to help me cope... Imaryj315 said:
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DogBoy
Viola = Musical instrument!
You have simply directed the question back at me. I did not say i had a definative answer, i simply posed the question. It is not down to me to prove the points, i asked a question. I was simply interested in the answers and how people would think about what they answered. If coco the gorilla cant be made to answer the question and the human infant is a moot point then i'm happy to discount them. Makes no difference to me really, i simply wanted to know what people though constituted proof of their humanity.
You have simply directed the question back at me. I did not say i had a definative answer, i simply posed the question. It is not down to me to prove the points, i asked a question. I was simply interested in the answers and how people would think about what they answered. If coco the gorilla cant be made to answer the question and the human infant is a moot point then i'm happy to discount them. Makes no difference to me really, i simply wanted to know what people though constituted proof of their humanity.
Which as you said includes more than just homo sapiens in the definition...Clarence said:
Which as I said in my first post, if human is not defined as the member of a specific species, then there can be no real proof.
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ureapwhatusow
im game
first define human
either way you want proof beyond doubt i need precise and verbose boundires defining the term HUMAN or was that hymen, either way ...
ok resind the above since you have already established a rough definition
I am human, using a bioloigical basis because
A) I am am mammel with an opposable thumb
B) Most highly advanced nervous system
C) Capable of biped locomotion
D) Were the only organisms that can commnuicate on the internet
counter that with
A) Smells like bear
B) Eats like dog
C) Sleeps like cat
D) High as a bird
who the fuck really knows
first define human
either way you want proof beyond doubt i need precise and verbose boundires defining the term HUMAN or was that hymen, either way ...
ok resind the above since you have already established a rough definition
I am human, using a bioloigical basis because
A) I am am mammel with an opposable thumb
B) Most highly advanced nervous system
C) Capable of biped locomotion
D) Were the only organisms that can commnuicate on the internet
counter that with
A) Smells like bear
B) Eats like dog
C) Sleeps like cat
D) High as a bird
who the fuck really knows
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Simple, either it is our DNA which defines us as members of a specific species, OR there is no REAL proof at all. Coco can communicate back... She knows sign language... The human infant is not moot at all, merely an example of a human who cannot be proved human by your 'proof", thus calling the validity of your proof into question and providing the doubt which you said the answer must be beyond...DogBoy said:
Makes no difference to me either, I'm just giving my perspective on the problem posed, and the solutions proffered....
Sorry for the typo, I meant Voila... It's french and translates as "see there"
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My point exactly... or one of them, anyhow... :wink:ureapwhatusow said:
maryj315
Member
Atheist have their own way of accepting death it is no different from religion or sun gods or any other means of humans dealing with it
So you are telling me that a elephant knows from a early stage and through out lts life it knows it is going to die
I do not mean to be disrespectful but that is the first i have heard of any animal that is aware of its existence or of its eventual death
Yet i also have never personally asked a elephant so i could be wrong
Mj
So you are telling me that a elephant knows from a early stage and through out lts life it knows it is going to die
I do not mean to be disrespectful but that is the first i have heard of any animal that is aware of its existence or of its eventual death
Yet i also have never personally asked a elephant so i could be wrong
Mj
You know me, Dogboy... I love nothing better than coming to a well thought out conclusion and then defending it... It's just hard for me not to once I get started sometimes, especially when each response I read compels me to further reply... lol
Are you telling me that human children know about death before they are taught about death?maryj315 said:
I don't mean to be disrespectful either, but it is awfully arrogant of people to assume to know what goes on in every other animal's mind... And I've never seen a child born with instinctive knowledge of death and it's ramifications, that is a 100% learned thing. If you were not taught, then you would figure it out on your own at an early age?
You simple have no evidence to back up your proof...
No way to discern exactly what animals think about...
No evidence that knowledge of death and dying is anything but education...
No proof...
Perhaps that is what is unique to human... arrogance.
