Dutch coffee shops with the best hash.

[British_Bulldog]

[British_Bulldog]"First of all, the best hash isn't usually available over the counter and you have to know people."

[Chamba]"no you don't, you have to know how to make it"

Hi Chamba,

I meant import hash, available commercially in NL.

But also, if you know the right people it is often possible to find Moroccan and other import hash in NL, which is better than homemade hash.

I've made my fair share of homemade hash, in various ways, but it's the plant which it comes from which dictates the high, not only the production quality.


Peace

 

[mr.haze420]

hi capt. crip, those are some very tasty polms, very flowery and strong, uppy high. the #12 was exceptional and even my hash smoking dutch friends found it to be superior. smelled like candy, bubblegummy. and when pressed up was vey melty. i think i will take a piece out today and smoke it before i go to see tower of power at the paradiso tonight.

 

[Capt. Crip]

Damn MrHaze,,,,,no teasing allowed bro!
That stuff looks like amber cake!

How about origin? Moroc?,Leb?



Fine pics nonetheless and a big thanks for sharing..............................CC

 

[Capt. Crip]

Chamba,
You have to remember that these plants are grown at elevation and in harsh conditions which in many cases leads to high THC %'s in the trichome.....

In many cases fine imports will easily rival fine homemade bubble....
And also have taste that cannot be duplicated.....It's been a long time but we have had extra fine imports in the late 70's and early 80's and the odor was without proper words to explain,unbelieveable!

Import Hash here from the late 80's to present was only occasionally excellent and usually just OK...

But thats just where I live,different everywhere.............

 

[Papulz]

hmmm... i dont know about you guys but something tells me the best quality rarely leaves the producers hands or immediate circle.. barring occasions in which massive commercial operations are underway. so what im saying is that the best quality import is likely not up to snuff with that which is locally produced. only conditionals i can think of is either the environment in which the hash was produced, the quality/nature of the source material, and finally the methodology used to derive the product.

but really.. im just thinking about this logically. do americans see much if any of the really kind bud coming in from foreign sources? no, because that kind of stuff is for your people, not some foreigners!

 

[British_Bulldog]

Hi Mr. Haze - the #12 sounds exceptional.....more goodies, lol


Hi Capt. Crip - if I may, Mr Hazes hashes are from Morocco I believe, and very splendid they are too


Hi Papulz - that's not true, just a myth, as I've tried farmer quality Moroccan (smuggled directly from a good Moroccan hash farm), and what Mr. Haze has is the same high grade. Unless you've smoked both, you wouldn't know and more than likely believe the myth that you've quoted....like I did before.

The Moroccans also export super high grades, in very limited quantities, as there's a market for it. This is why you usually need to be connected.

Ok the quantity isn't big, but that's because of the quality and the specialist market it caters to, but the Moroccans aren't stupid and they know if there's a market, they'll serve it.


Peace

 

[mr.haze420]

i have not seen any real leb in quite some time and i always look at it to see if it is real, no such luck lately. the # 12 was some of the best polm i have seen here in a while, it literally stunk up the room when i opened the package. rare for morocaan. considering that hash there is .50 a gr wholesale for good pieces the finer ones do get taken out, they have value here. going to hit up some of the egg, peace out

 

[gramsci.antonio]

Yeah i really love leb. gold or leb. red, but with the war going over there i think they are busy trying to survive rather than grow pot.

 

[Papulz]

do you know the extraction ratios to create farmers quality resin powder? read hashish, then tell me about the availabilty of high quality as your radiate further and further from the source. its logic man, not myth. Furthermore, its not like i said it doesnt happen.. we are speaking in generalities, and again as i noted on large scale operations IE a country of mass production like morocco will indeed create small amounts of high quality export. i still would argue that this quality product IS NOT as good as the best quality one can find domestically. this is because the quality of the material going into the procedure will be higher than the harshly treated 3rd world crop.

 

[British_Bulldog]

Hi Mr. Haze - #12 does indeed sound awesome

In the last 10 years I don't think I've seen any good Leb in NL - some mouldy pieces back in the late 90's, but nothing fresh and good.


Hi Antonio - I think hash is still being made in the Bekaa Valley, but we're just not seeing it available.


Hi Papulz - it's fine to think logically, try to argue it and not agree, but until you've actually smoked farmer quality straight from the farm, compared with high quality import in NL, you will never know.

I used to think like you, but since smoking the two, my opinion has changed. In fact, the Cristal Royal Moroccan hash I smoked recently from the The Wall coffeeshop in Eindhoven was better than the Moroccan farm hash straight from the farmer, and that was the farmer's highest personal grade.

I know it might be hard to believe, but it's true, and like that program on US TV, it was certainly a Mythbuster for me, lol

You're off-base about the quality issues too - under a microscope, a fine Moroccan is extremely clean, the same as dry-sift at home, but the plant materials the Moroccans use are often better than what's grown at home, not just genetically, but the light spectrum they're grown under (sun vs. indoor), the altitude, the soil, etc.

You can talk about higher quality production methods at home, but I've been there and done that - made super high grade dry-sift and bubble at home, and some of the Moroccan I've had has been better than my best, and I have used a variety of top quality plants, some elite clones.



Peace

 

[bon]

Damn Mr. Haze420, thats an awsome collection u got there

 

[mr.haze420]

150-200k for 1 k of the best

 

[British_Bulldog]

Hi Mr Haze, I'm not sure I understand that - do u mean it's between 150,000-200,000 euro for 1 kilo of the best? If so that would make it 150-200 euro for 1 gram x 1000, and that sounds way overpriced.

Maybe you mean 15-20k? But that also seems overpriced, when you can get the same quality as you've got for 10 euro a gram in Eindhoven.

So I am interested in what you've said, but would just appreciate some clarity.

It was also interesting to hear you say that the wholesale price for good Moroccan is 50 euro cents a gram, which sounds about right to me, and I imagine the lowest grades get sold for pennies, to soap bar producers in the UK, France, Italy, etc.

 

[mr.haze420]

150-200 kilos of weed to make 1 kilo of the top quality

 

[British_Bulldog]

oh lol, that's what you mean, thanks

Just goes to show how you can misread something online, lol


Anyway, that's a very of a small percentage of return. Considering I've had an 8-9% return on average for full melt dry sift, 0.5-0.66% is tiny.


I used sweet leaf, and maybe what you're talking about are the whole plants with everything on them? Or is that weight just for leaves (inc. fan leaves?)


I'm just trying to understand the % rates in Morocco.


Cheers

 

[Lambuster]

The Willie Wortel shops in Haarlem have some great hash (and weed), and it's generally a bit cheaper than Amsterdam prices...

It's been a year or so since I had the chance to get over to Haarlem but my somewhat frazzled memory recalls a very heady session with the sweetest Nepalese Temple Ball back then! Much better than the stuff I'd sampled on my regular visits to the Dam before and since...

 

[British_Bulldog]

That's right Lambuster, it is cheaper and better in Haarlem at the WW shops than Amsterdam, but it's even better and cheaper elsewhere, e.g. Eindhoven, Tiburg, etc.

Another thing that puts me off the WW shops nowadays is the fingerprinting. I'm sorry, but no-one is taking my finger prints to buy drugs, lol

 

[gramsci.antonio]

The Willie Wortel shops in Haarlem have some great hash (and weed), and it's generally a bit cheaper than Amsterdam prices...

It's been a year or so since I had the chance to get over to Haarlem but my somewhat frazzled memory recalls a very heady session with the sweetest Nepalese Temple Ball back then! Much better than the stuff I'd sampled on my regular visits to the Dam before and since...

temple ball are a mix of charas and opium... i think they just copied the name... very rare to find also in india

 

[gramsci.antonio]

Another thing that puts me off the WW shops nowadays is the fingerprinting. I'm sorry, but no-one is taking my finger prints to buy drugs, lol

yeah i heard that.


Anyhow i'm impressed that in smaller city like utrecth, eindhoven... the 5/6 euro/gram hash is soapbar.

I mean: i visited EVERY FUCKING COFFEE in utrecht, and many many in eindhoven, and i wasn't able to find some good cheap moroccan. They smoke soapbar and are happy about it.

 

[British_Bulldog]

Ciao Antonio,

The Templeball in Haarlem doesn't have any opium in.

And I know what you mean about Utrecht - not a good place for quality generally, but did you go to the VIP Shop? That's the best coffeeshop in Utrecht - I'm not saying you can get good & cheap Moroccan there, as I can't remember, and just got the Mexican Haze, which was a reasonably good weed smoke, but the owner and customers are very friendly and hospitable.

I also visited the other shops in Utrecht, but didn't get any hash, as I already had a stash, and was just buying odd grams of weed in Utrecht.


In Eindhoven, the Hija-Hija in The Wall Coffeeshop is 7 euro a gram, and is definately not soapbar - I didn't smoke it as I wanted 'the best', but one knowledgable older Moroccan smoker said he preferred it to the top of the range Cristal Royal at 10 euro a gram, which was a surprise, so it must be good.

The owner of the shop showed me the 7 euro Hija-Hija, and it was nothing like the terrible quality soapbar here in Italy or even worse in the UK. It was a lightly pressed block which ripped apart and smelled good when opened up.

I know The Wall coffeeshop in Eindhoven is far and above better than most coffeeshops in the Netherlands for quality products, but there's no need to buy the 5-6 euro inferior quality, when from 7-10 euro in The Wall, you can get outstanding quality.


Peace