I should have been more patient and waited for your response. But I decided that if I at least took the BIG fans out now it would accomplish two things. More circulation (so crowded in there leaves are wetting each other), and better view of branching to see where I should train.
So, now my intent was to leave them for a few days untouched after having taken a majority of large fans out (not stripped by any means), then begin training laterally.
I dont have a net, or frame material or anything to make a screen atm, and may not be able to make one up. As such, with each training, I'll probably be doing individual branch tying with string holding them from above until they knot up good (1-3days usually). Then I'll have to rinse/repeat when they get big heavy buds.
I'm almost tempted to re position the tallest plants in each tub to the back middle (or tent corner if you will) so the shorter two can get some extra light love and catch up. But of course that may really not be needed if I do good lateral training of the tall girls.
I wish I could say my next group is already vegging. Sadly, I'm 0-12 on two sets of 6 clones this time. I can't figure out why. I did it the same way with these girls in the tent now that I went 8-8 on. I have two moms in the closet to pull clones from now since I new I couldn't fit 8 in the tent.
I am not sure I get ya on "you want them bigger than these.....". I did lots of defoliating in veg. I did top and fim, and bent trained em. I was very limited in allowable width to train in the closet they veged in, so that may be the issue. But these girls also went into flowering light schedule at 19-21" tall. And with the 3x these girls stretch, that certainly puts them way the hell over your standard of "big". I know they stretch 3x based on last grow.
I'm sure I dont have this process down pat. Yet I feel like I am not far off, and somewhat trying to adapt it to this grow's unique circumstances. ie: too many plants in too small an area. I also am starting to believe I may not get the width we wanted totally filling the tent. I guess this is because they were not trained enough in veg? I probably allowed them to go too high and didnt bend quite enough.
***All that being said, I can certainly tell there are more bud sites at the top from my last grow. Lots more. And I feel like the lower & mid sites are in a much better position. The issue that arises will be height vs light penetration. I'll have to make that reflective floor up to help with that. And maybe add a couple cfl's in each corner to send a more diagonal inward light beam in on them. I am really believing in this technique now. I wont get the 10z per yield. But if I get 4-5z per it will be a success. 6z+ per would be major for me.
Hi K33f. Here's a plant what my mate's working on and I'd value your opinion if that's OK...
Do you think he's done a good defoli job on this girl? Sorry about the shit quality pic. I always tell him not to give up his day job to become a photographer lol.
Thanks and peace man, and it's good to see you posting again.
This thread is dope, seriously. K33ftr33z is the dude. Some ppl are really afraid of this technique. Life is an experiment. Don't sweat it.
-DG-
I'd be terrified of those monsters! Good work!
-DG-
Keep it vegging for at least another 2-3 weeks or more if you're willing...
First is to crush the stem gently between thumb and forefinger and with a twist bend. Always twist when bending. It winds the stem fibers much like rope and prevents snapping.
ok i get it know
I cropped the flowers in 2 weeks flower, 10 days ago, and they are to much bussh again.
I wonder if you can cut them again or is too early? I am afraid to couse them too much stress and i get popcorn in the end?
2 weks in flower and pruned
today after 10 days
Can't see your pics. When you say "cropped the flowers" I wonder what you may be doing. It soiunds different than defoliating. If that means you are nipping off the growing tip of the bud...please don't. That is not what we are doing. Please clarify.