Child Taken, Parents arrested BEFORE they figure out if a Medical Rec is real.

[JackTheGrower]

This will be one to watch: Notice any report on how many plants is not being released. Very Hush Hush..
If they can enforce Child endangerment over a house plant then that should go for Booze in the house and all pills.

We have to keep an open eye.. Law Enforcement is not free of violating people's right to advance their political agenda. Putting these people in Jail and placing the child in Care is far more harmful to this family than a pot plant.
Besides why not take the plant and leave the people?

Nazi Tactics.. I wonder if these people are African American or Mexican. I will bet you a dollar the neighborhood the7y live in is a lower income area.

TUSTIN - A man and a woman accused of growing marijuana in a child's bedroom remained behind bars Friday as police continue to investigate whether a doctor's recommendation allowing the crop is legitimate.

Stephen Casino, 26, of Huntington Beach, is being held on $200,000 bail and Tina Marie Turrieta, 29, of Tustin, is being held on $25,000 bail.

They are being held on suspicion of child endangerment, said Lt. Tom Tarpley of the Tustin Police Department.

Police officers who visited the home at the Segovia Apartments at 15560 Tustin Village Way made some observations that led them to fear for the safety of Turrieta's 1-year-old son, Tarpley said. He declined to say what those observations were but said that the marijuana plants in the child's bedroom were the primary concern. There were also unprescribed pills at the house, he said.

The officers who went to the apartment found nearly two dozen plants, police said. California law limits patients to growing 12 immature or six mature plants per person.

Police took photos of the room for evidence but can't release them yet, Tarpley said. Asked whether they were more like a marijuana jungle with a crib or just a couple of sprouts in a corner, Tarpley said they depicted a "cultivation operation."

"It wasn't just a plant on a window sill, I can tell you that," he said.

Turrieta has no convictions in Orange County more serious than some traffic violations. Casino has been charged with assault with a deadly weapon and hate crime violations over a Jan. 15 incident.

Police received a call from Child Protective Services around 3:30 p.m. Thursday reporting a possible child endangerment case, Tarpley said.

Detectives started surveillance at the apartment and arrested Casino when he arrived around 5:30 p.m.

Marijuana is non-lethal even in large quantities, but can cause dizziness, nausea and other unpleasant effects.

Under California law, a person can be convicted for felony child endangerment if he "permits that child to be placed in a situation where his or her person or health is endangered."

"Our position is that a marijuana grow should not be in the vicinity of a one-year-old child," Tarpley said.

Turrieta's 1-year-old son is in custody at Orangewood Children's Home

Their Position.. No facts that there is any danger.. I'd be worried that the child would damage the plant..

Oh I did notice an itch from being in contact with one strain I have this year.. That was a new quality to consider.

We are not being given all the facts but enough information has been released to bate the public with innuendo

An [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innuendo]innuendo

is a baseless invention of thoughts or ideas. It can also be a remark or question, typically disparaging (also called insinuation), that works obliquely by allusion. In the latter sense, the intention is often to insult or accuse someone in such a way that one's words, taken literally, are innocent.

 

[Sam the Caveman]

They said marijuana causes nausea, I thought thats what it treated.

They must just make this up on the spot or what?

 

[RoomRaider]

Yup... innocent until proven guilty... riiiight. They should be able to get quite a chunk of change if they are in fact legal. Having something like that happen to a 1 year old can be very tramatic. You would think verification would only be a phone call away?

"Marijuana is non-lethal even in large quantities, but can cause dizziness, nausea and other unpleasant effects."

Based on their description of weed, beer is the exact same thing, so its time for me to call in some tips about people who keep beer in their fridge.... cuz you know kids go to the fridge for drinks so the poor child is exposed to alcohol.

 

[JackTheGrower]

This is obviously an attack on on Medical people everywhere.. I read these sorts of case where they violate people and then try and see what kind of case they can build when they are all back in the office and have had their morning coffee.. meanwhile that Child is in an unfamiliar place with strangers. the parents are in Jail and they are ruined in their community.


This is what our law Enforcement calls effective Medical Marijuana policy.


If it had been a baby crib in a grow op i could understand.. But since they are not telling us it may have been one larger plant.


I'm going to say I agree we must be careful with children that they don't eat paint off the wall for example.. We always have to be careful.. I'll stand on the side that these people are responsible parents.

What we are missing here is more data, more truth..

California People Does Tax2010 or AB390 actually protect out families? It's a natural plant!

 

[PharmaCan]

Jack - I don't think Tustin has any bad areas. The location of this apartment is a good area. Their names sound kinda Italian, don't ya think?

PC

 

[FreezerBoy]

No sympathy from me. Gross stupidity is it's own reward. Double the legal limit? Growing in the babies room?!! WTF?!? I'd ask what they were thinking except it's obvious they went out of their way not to think at all.

 

[h^2 O]

"Turrieta has no convictions in Orange County more serious than some traffic violations. Casino has been charged with assault with a deadly weapon and hate crime violations over a Jan. 15 incident"
the wife should be released (probably already has), and apparently the guy is actually already waiting trial for assault with a deadly weapon and HATE CRIME violations. He should not have been growing. He should not have been living with a child, period. The mother should have tossed his ass out and got Section 8, like the rest of em

 

[JackTheGrower]

On a second look my concern for placing the child may be wrong..

That does sound like a grow room with a crib.

Man..

How many people was he growing for? 24 is legal for two people.

Still we need more info.. Would the closet in the baby's room be off limits? I mean secure the doors yes but would it?

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

the government that steals your kids, and ruins your life for a house plant is clearly evil.

 

[Blue Dot]

the government that steals your kids, and ruins your life for a house plant is clearly evil.

Not if some idiots like this can't understand that you just can't do anything you want with a plant.

This plant does have pyschotropic effects and to place it in the vicinity of a 1 year is unresponsible and thus he should pay the penalty.

Guess what, the law says you can only have kids if you're gonna be responsible and I agree.

 

[JackTheGrower]

Video


http://www.icmag.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=790

The "grow room and smoking + rolling" is archival footage.. No doubt many will see that and think that two bed room apartment contained all that.

Also the last statement/question the reporter asks/makes has nothing to do with the statement the "shadowman" is saying. Listen careful.

When I slow down and think about it that is a piece of yellow journalism. The visuals suggesting one thing and even the reporter misleads us with the last interview.

If one isn't watching that they will think that grow-room is the baby's bedroom

 

[JackTheGrower]

So if a 1 year old ate raw leaves do you think it would be in danger? My first thought was no. Since heat is needed to activate the THC.. Any ideas?
also did the child sleep in there or with it's mom?

 

[Blue Dot]

So if a 1 year old ate raw leaves do you think it would be in danger? My first thought was no since heat is needed to activate the THC.. Any ideas?
also did the child sleep in there or with it's mom?

Hell, just being around that much UV light is a bad idea.

God help us all if that idiot used no pest strips like many here seem to.

the list goes on and on.

 

[geopolitical]

Wow. I hope their note is legit and I hope they find a nice civil lawyer after they're out.

Oh I did notice an itch from being in contact with one strain I have this year.. That was a new quality to consider.

Have a buddy who is now moderately allergic to skin contact with cannabis, fresh or dried. Fresh being a lot worse.

 

[Blue Dot]

Wow. I hope their note is legit and I hope they find a nice civil lawyer after they're out.

How the hell is a civil lawyer gonna help some idiot who was growing over the legal limit, even if the rec was legit?

 

[fatigues]

Can eating raw bud or leaves make you feel nauseous? Yes it can. That's why cannabudder is vastly preferable Sam.

The worst that ingesting raw bud could do, in the end, is make the child sick and then sleepy. That's the rational explanation. The knee-twitch when it comes to pot and kids, however, is something else entirely. "ZOMG!!!1111!! The BABY OD'd!!"

We were discussing a while back the practical effect of People v. Kelly. The TV segment barely touched upon it. They mentioned that the couple had "twice the legal limit". They did not make it clear that the so called "legal limit" had been struck down by the Court of Appeals and that "the People" in People v. Kelly admitted to the State Supreme Court earlier this month that the so-called limits were unconstitutional. The TV report noted that the State Supreme Court was "grappling with how much was a reasonable amount". It was a vague reference which I expect only a handful of people who saw the segment actually understood. I'm sure 99% of the people who saw it came away convinced the couple had twice the legal limit and were guilty as hell. White trash of the worst kind.

So...if they each had a medical grow permit, and only 12 mature plants between them, would they have been arrested? Maybe; maybe not. I don't think, in either case, this is a poster-child for "SB420 is good".

It's not at all clear that there were 24 mature plants in that room, either. It's also not clear just what the nature of the room the child's crib was in, either. Nor is it clear that the plants were in reach of a child barely old enough to stand unassisted. So...perhaps until those facts are known, the dagger, however well intentioned, might remain in the sheath.

A lot of questions here. But let's look at the reaction to "babies and pot". Any doubts about the overall reaction to that?

None at all. We've even got a few people on ICM honing daggers. Imagine the average knee-twitch reaction to this one at the local PTA!

I think it "depends" - and depends mostly on the facts we don't yet know.

Thanks for this one Jack - I'm interested to see how this one turns out when - and if - the facts become better known.

 

[freeride high]

wow! growing in the kids room is just disturbed. of course they were taken, thats just insane!

 

[Blue Dot]

Can eating raw bud or leaves make you feel nauseous? Yes it can. The word that could do, in the end, is make the child sleepy.

I think it "depends" - and depends mostly on the facts we don't yet know.

You mean on how pot affects children (especially infants)?

You're right, we don't know (because there have never been any studies) and if it's anything like other pharmas we should pay attention because we all know you'd never give a 500 mg dose of advil or whatever to a child because a child processes drugs thru their system much differently then an adult or even like the difference between men and women.

For you to say how MJ would affect a child is irresponsible unless you have some studies to back up what your saying.

it's called being on the safe side

 

[JackTheGrower]

Hell, just being around that much UV light is a bad idea.

God help us all if that idiot used no pest strips like many here seem to.

the list goes on and on.

More info for sure.. I would imagine they had the baby sleeping with them.

I would assume they are not insane and had put some plants in there but kept the baby in their room.

The clue is the statement made by the Shadow man.. You have to listen to what he said.

 

[JackTheGrower]

Can eating raw bud or leaves make you feel nauseous? Yes it can. That's why cannabudder is vastly preferable Sam.

The worst that ingesting raw bud could do, in the end, is make the child sick and then sleepy. That's the rational explanation. The knee-twitch when it comes to pot and kids, however, is something else entirely. "ZOMG!!!1111!! The BABY OD'd!!"

We were discussing a while back the practical effect of People v. Kelly. The TV segment barely touched upon it. They mentioned that the couple had "twice the legal limit". They did not make it clear that the so called "legal limit" had been struck down by the Court of Appeals and that "the People" in People v. Kelly admitted to the State Supreme Court earlier this month that the so-called limits were unconstitutional. The TV report noted that the State Supreme Court was "grappling with how much was a reasonable amount". It was a vague reference which I expect only a handful of people who saw the segment actually understood. I'm sure 99% of the people who saw it came away convinced the couple had twice the legal limit and were guilty as hell. White trash of the worst kind.

So...if they each had a medical grow permit, and only 12 mature plants between them, would they have been arrested? Maybe; maybe not. I don't think, in either case, this is a poster-child for "SB420 is good".

It's not at all clear that there were 24 mature plants in that room, either. It's also not clear just what the nature of the room the child's crib was in, either. Nor is it clear that the plants were in reach of a child barely old enough to stand unassisted. So...perhaps until those facts are known, the dagger, however well intentioned, might remain in the sheath.

A lot of questions here. But let's look at the reaction to "babies and pot". Any doubts about the overall reaction to that?

None at all. We've even got a few people on ICM honing daggers. Imagine the average knee-twitch reaction to this one at the local PTA!

I think it "depends" - and depends mostly on the facts we don't yet know.

Thanks for this one Jack - I'm interested to see how this one turns out when - and if - the facts become better known.

I'm guessing it was no more than veg at this stage.

We are missing a lot of the pieces. That is for sure..