Yes carnists. And no, scroger, it's not those that eat cars..I don't care that our teeth are shaped like they can chew meat or not, what matters is that we don't need to eat meat in our daily diet to stay healthy, and every sensible beings on our civilized globe knows that (though they don't stop eating animals despite of that fact), so don't come up with bad excuses to why we *must* eat meat. We do it because we're lazy, because we can't control our desires towards meat and because we have been stupified by the (common will of the) society to not learn how to use fundamental vegetarian food sources like beans, seeds and root vegetables etc in our daily diet because we don't need to (cause we've got meat!). Eat meat and destroy the planet, but don't come up with lame excuses for doing so.
Ps. I know how to make facon that you can't distinguish from ordinary bacon (my carnist-friends says so... )
but this thread was just kinda a way to say high to the people here. so high
Okay there seems to be a break down in understanding of the terminology used so lets do a little educationg here. It's not surprising that so many seem to think carnist is a made up word. It actually is, since it's only been in use 10 years. The term carnism was coined by social psychologist Melanie Joy in 2001. It's meant to describe people who make a concious decision to eat meat even though they know they can meet their nutritional requirements with fruits, grains and vegtables.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnism
Most people however are not carnists because their choice to have meat in their diet isn't part of a belief system. Most people eat meat along with fruits, grains and vegtables because that's what we are, omnivores, and that's what our bodies were designed to do. When they eat a steak or a hamburger or a pork chop, etc. They're not pondering the ethics and saying to themselves "Oh this is okay because it's ethical to eat animals." They are doing so because they were raised that way and that's the way society is structured. When/if they're confronted with the choice to forego meat in favor of fruits, grains and vegtables if they decide not to do so it isn't because of ethics because both science and religion teach that it's not about ethics.
The reason mankind has survived and evolved to where we are at now is because we can eat meat, as well as fruits, grains and vegtables. This allows us to be more adaptable and spares us from dying off if something should disrupt our primary food source. If from the beginning we had to depend solely on fruits and vegtables we never would have made it past the hunter/gatherer stage of our development. It was the hunting part of that equation that carried us thru because it was near impossible to just gather enough to meet nutritional needs. It wasn't until we moved into our Agrarian stage of evolution that we could have even had a choice to eat meat or not eat meat.
Just because there is a choice doesn't mean we need to make it though. Whether you believe in God or just Mother Nature we were meant to eat meat along with fruits and vegtables. To believe that everyone should go vegan just because it's possible to do so and maintain health is to defy the natural order of things. Every living thing on the planet is part of the food web and if the main predator stopped eating meat the resulting overpopulation of animals would disrupt other forms of life.
It's also idealistic because not everyone has access to all they need in the way of fruits and vegtables to do without meat. Further even if they have access not everyone can afford to buy the necessary combination of fruits and vegtables to maintain good health. So the whole idea of carnism is riddiculous and since it's diametric to vegetarianism to truely be a carnist you would have to forego eating any fruits, grains and vegtables to seek all your nutritional needs from meat and I don't know any human that does that.
