BhT goes toe-to-toe with tea party fanatics

[sac beh]

This is not an organization, it has no leaders, it has no platform, it is purely spontaneous.

Obviously it could not contain so many people if it was partisan at all, there's too many people supporting it. It crosses all lines.

Which is why its really a complete failure of a movement. Its a mass of folks who are all angry at Obama and the government, some know why, some don't, but what they share in common is that they have no practical direction for their rage. What you end up with is a chaotic melee of disparate and contradictory political views under supposed banners of small government and individual freedoms. But because they don't really know where their anger comes from or what they are really protesting, they rip the flyers out of BHT's hands. Because their brains aren't wired to make the rational connection between their supposed belief in individual freedoms and the legalization of a plant, they completely miss an opportunity to make a practical decision for individual freedom.

Its a melee of irrationality and emotion...

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

You need to stop conflating Tea Party folks with Republicans. The vast majority of the Tea Party are Libertarians who wish to see prohibition repealed. We don't go in for big, intrusive government.

You fools don't seem to realize that the whole "medical marijuana" thing is self-destructive. Medical pot my arse, it's getting high. Some bright dork decides to get pot legalized by pretending it's medicine....smart folks don't like that and they feel like you're pulling one over.

You wan't to reach serious people, you have to speak to principle. At the very least, the Federal government has no authority to prohibit marijuana. Any such prohibitions belong to the individual states. Every Tea Party person will be receptive to that line of argument.

Government always employs doomsday fabricated horror scenarios like "Reefer Madness", "Global Warming", and "Acid Rain" to work the bedwetters into a frenzy getting them to vote for more government, less freedom, more taxes, less income.

The war on drugs is just that. Take that approach, you win. Keep on with the medical pot thing, you'll just get more people snickering in the long run, and win much later.

First of all, show at any point in this conversation where I couped tea party members in with republicans, because I did not ever make such a statement.

Secondly, ive never said that we should continue with medical marijuana as the only path towards legalization. There are many people who benefit from medical marijuana, however, there are many more that are simply wanting to not be arrested for enjoying a substance proven far safer than alcohol.

Third, I tailored my pro marijuana points to be able to reach the tea party crowd. That is less government interferement, more power for states to govern themselfs based on the will of the populace, less wasted tax dollars, and job creation. These points fell primarly on deaf ears as the majority of these so called "freedom fighters" were against marijuana regardless of the negative impact its illegality has caused on our social and economic system.

So i've come to the conclusion that the members of the tea party I spoke with yesterday were far from rational or opened to actully creating a better system. What I saw yesterday was nothing more than an agenda-based party that had little to do with working with others to create a better america and everything to do with reaffirming their own beliefs.

None of the TP members I spoke with even consided the talking points I brought to their attention, as every member that tried to debate me ended up stomping away in a disoriented belligerant rage while I stood there with a huge shit eating grin on my face. When you can't make a single valid argument when your so outspokenly opposed to a subject, it makes you look quite foolish, specially to those who are listening intently.

However, even though the majority of tea party members opposed what I said and believed, I did hand out over 200 pro-19 fliers and as I was debating the few irrational tea party members that decided to voice their opinion, I recognized there were a few standing around nodding their heads in agreement at the talking points I was calmly and rationally making. Although, I dont believe many of these people actually associated themselfs with the tea party rally, as they were simply interested in what was taking place or as to what these tea party rallys were actually about.

Oh, and I got my picture taken with a anti-tea party guy who had a huge sign attached to an american flag that said:

TEA PARTY
+
REASON
=
TREASON

Man if you guys thought I pissed alot of people off, you should have seen the reaction he was getting. People were throwing garbage at him, calling him a "fucking liberal pussy" and a "obama loving socialist".

Rather or not I changed any opinions at the rally, which i'd like to believe I did, or at the very least, got some people thinking outside of their normal train of thought towards marijuana, I had a very entertaining afternoon and learned a few things about the tea party rally that was unbeknownst to me.

 

[AladdinSane]

Lol, what?

You'll need to face up to reality. Saying it *might* be medicinal but we don't know because it's illegal is say it isn't *yet* medical. That's my point. Nobody gets serious when someone says "make it legal because it might be medical, we just need some more research".

It doesn't matter if it's medical or not. It still shouldn't morally be prohibited. And any government which does that is too big, too powerful, and needs to be checked.

That is the only rational argument.

 

[ThirdEyeVision]

why must the teapartiers insist on passion and rhetoric instead of fact and reason. I refuse to allow you people to continue to revise history

The wealth has been concentrated more densely into the upper class.this is the natural way of the "free-market." The only way to enrich the middle class is via regulations like progressive tax systems, workers unions, social programs, and trade tariffs. These are what created the great american middle class; I find it interesting that these are also the things the right seeks to erode.

Endless wealth transfer from the United States sent off to every corner of the world. We work more now, for less money and no benefits because we have to compete with chinese and indian peasants. The wealth of the working and middle classes will continue to dwindle at exactly the same rate at which some chinese worker's lot in life improves.

Some people will point to increased federal and state spending as a reason why we are in the shitter.

The real reason they are spending more now is that we have no industry. They HAVE to spend trillions to keep the country from slipping into complete debt slavery, joblessness, and anarchy. Why? Billions of dollars leaving the U.S. every day for decades due to misguided ideologically minded economic policies.

 

[AladdinSane]

I stood there with a huge shit eating grin on my face.

You really didn't need to use so many words to make my point. I mean, considering that having a "shit eating grin" has everything to do with reasoned argument.

I argue with Tea Party folks, Conservatives, and Libertarians *every single day* on these matters and have for 22 years now.

You want to persuade people, you don't start out assuming they are "Extremist Teabaggers".

And you should probably spend as much time learning about actual liberty in America as you do calculating your next nutrient schedule.

You want less government, there is one place, the Tea Party. They aren't your enemy. Government is the enemy.

 

[sac beh]

You'll need to face up to reality. Saying it *might* be medicinal but we don't know because it's illegal is say it isn't *yet* medical. That's my point. Nobody gets serious when someone says "make it legal because it might be medical, we just need some more research".

We know its medicinal, in the most exact definition of the word. Its medicinal. Spend more time in Dr Jay's forum if you don't understand that.

It doesn't matter if it's medical or not. It still shouldn't morally be prohibited. And any government which does that is too big, too powerful, and needs to be checked.

Sure, but its no reason to disparage the whole medical movement. The object of your rage is the government and/or the prohibitionist laws, not the medical use of marijuana which is a good thing.

 

[AladdinSane]

The wealth has been concentrated more densely into the upper class.

Yes, and all cats are feline. Stating the obvious is not an argument. You become upper class by obtaining wealth...duh.

But this is about MJ, so we're speaking to the politics of general liberty. The point being, the only people advancing general liberty in America today are the Tea Party.

As such, those advancing the notion that pot should be legal have *vastly* more in common with the Tea Party than anyone else. Not everyone in the Tea Party is ready to go that far, most of them are going to take some level-headed persuasion over time.

 

[AladdinSane]

Sure, but its no reason to disparage the whole medical movement.

I don't buy it man. I really don't. And it's my considered opinion that the med road isn't ever going to be largely persuasive.

In today's anti-establishment environment, this once a century alignment of the planets where real advancement to reducing government is possible, we should go for the Constitutional argument.

The people are ready.

 

[SCF]

I agree, but if pot had any general medical utility of the sort penicillin, etc. have it would already be in use. It is more a holistic remedy, and now we're back into the whole holistic thing which many people just snicker at.

The fundamental problem at hand is a large, intrusive government which thinks it knows better than we do how to live our lives. The secondary and more deadly problem is a Federal government that insists on imposing these one-size-fits-all solutions.

The Federal government has *no authority* to prohibit anyone's appetite. That's why alcohol prohibition was done the right way, employing a Constitutional amendment to give them that power. Which was ultimately rescinded.

This is the fundamental basis for any rational argument that's going to reach a large majority of the thinking people in America. Medical pot is not ever going to do that.

It just burns my hide to hear people call Constitutionalists "Teabaggers" and get all derogatory about folks everyone here should have a *whole lot* in common with. Our interests are precisely the same. Those Tea Party types who support tough federal drug laws just aren't fully coherent yet in their philosophy. Who can blame them, the schools have spent a century now indoctrination people to be government rubes. Change is slow.

here is proof its far from holistic,



ANTI-BACTERIAL PROPERTIES

Antibacterial Cannabinoids from Cannabis sativa
http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.c...np8002673.html

Killing bacteria with cannabis
http://arstechnica.com/journals/scie...-with-cannabis

Chemicals in Marijuana May Fight MRSA
http://www.webmd.com/news/20080904/m...may-fight-mrsa



CANCER- BREAST

Anandamide inhibits human breast cancer cell proliferation
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/95/14/8375

Inhibition of Human Breast and Prostate Cancer Cell Proliferation1
http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/con...ract/141/1/118

Antitumor Activity of Plant Cannabinoids
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/co...act/318/3/1375

9-Tetrahydrocannabinol Inhibits Cell Cycle Progression in Human Breast Cancer
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cg...act/66/13/6615

Cannabidiol inhibits tumour growth in leukaemia and breast cancer
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...l.php?id=220#2

THC and prochlorperazine effective in reducing vomiting in women following breast surgery
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...l.php?id=219#1

Cannabidiol Dramatically Inhibits Breast Cancer Cell Growth
http://www.thehempire.com/index.php/...wth_study_says

“Medical Marijuana” Takes On New Meaning for Metastatic Breast Cancer
http://www.healthcentral.com/breast-.../takes-cancer/

Cannabidiol may be helpful in reducing the aggressiveness of breast cancer cells
http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20071124003153693

JunD is involved in the antiproliferative effect of Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol on human breast cancer cells
http://www.knockoutscience.com/showa...?pmid=18454173

Cannabis Compound May Stop Metastatic Breast Cancer
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...111900834.html




CANCER- CERVICAL

Arachidonyl ethanolamide induces apoptosis of uterine cervix cancer cells
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...a344307d083fe1

Marijuana Ingredients Slow Invasion by Cervical and Lung Cancer Cells
http://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/200...r-in-test-tube




CANCER- COLORECTAL

Anandamide, induces cell death in colorectal carcinoma cells
http://gut.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/54/12/1741

Cannabinoids and cancer: potential for colorectal cancer therapy. (may need free registration)
http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/16042581


Marijuana takes on colon cancer
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...9_head_dn14451

Cannabis compound clue to colon cancer
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...-alcohol_rss20




CANCER- GLIOMA/ BRAIN

Anti-tumor effects of cannabidiol
http://www.hempworld.com/HempPharm/a...ilanstudy.html

Pot’s cancer healing properties
http://www.november.org/stayinfo/bre...cerKiller.html

Cannabinoids Inhibit the Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor Pathway in Gliomas
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cg...ort/64/16/5617

Inhibition of Glioma Growth in Vivo
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cg...61/15/5784.pdf

Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol in patients with recurrent glioblastoma multiforme.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=193

Cannabidiol triggers caspase activation and oxidative stress in human glioma cells.
http://www.ihop-net.org/UniPub/iHOP/...?pmid=16909207

Cannabis extract makes brain tumors shrink, halts growth of blood vessels
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/12088.php

THC tested against brain tumour in pilot clinical study
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...l.php?id=222#1

THC inhibits cell cycle progression in human glioblastoma multiforme cells
http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/a.../4/10/1467.htm

Down-regulation of tissue inhibitor of metalloproteinases-1 in gliomas
http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/a.../4/12/1563.htm

Cannabinoids inhibit glioma cell invasion by down-regulating matrix metalloproteinase-2 expression.
http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/archive/5/3/1697.htm

Anti-Tumor Effects
http://www.ukcia.org/research/AntiTumorEffects.htm

Cannabinoids Induce Cancer Cell Proliferation via Tumor Necrosis Factor {alpha}-Converting Enzyme (TACE/ADAM17)-Mediated Transactivation of the Epidermal Growth Factor Receptor
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cg...urcetype=HWCIT

Marijuana ingredient may reduce tumours-study
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LV470563.htm

Active Ingredient in Marijuana Kills Brain Cancer Cells
http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20090401...aincancercells

Cannabinoid action induces autophagy-mediated cell death through stimulation of ER stress in human glioma cells
http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948

Cannabidiol inhibits human glioma cell migration through a cannabinoid receptor-independent mechanism
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...tool=pmcentrez





CANCER- LEUKEMIA

Cannabis-induced cytotoxicity in leukemic cell lines
http://bloodjournal.hematologylibrar. ..act/105/3/1214

Cannabidiol-Induced Apoptosis in Human Leukemia Cells
http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/cg...tract/70/3/897

Marijuana's Active Ingredient Kills Leukemia Cells
http://www.treatingyourself.com/vbul...ead.php?t=7107

Targeting CB2 cannabinoid receptors to treat malignant lymphoblastic disease
http://bloodjournal.hematologylibrar. ../100/2/627.pdf

Cannabinoids induce incomplete maturation of cultured human leukemia cells (1987)
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/...sti_id=5164483

{Delta}9-Tetrahydrocannabinol-Induced Apoptosis in Jurkat Leukemia T Cells
http://mcr.aacrjournals.org/cgi/cont...stract/4/8/549

Cannabidiol inhibits tumour growth in leukaemia and breast cancer
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...l.php?id=220#2

Differential Effects of THC or CBD-rich Cannabis Extracts on Working Memory in Rats
http://www.ukcia.org/research/THCCBDWorkingMemory.pdf





CANCER- LUNG

Antineoplastic activity of cannabinoids
http://www.ukcia.org/research/Antine...s/default.html

Delta(9)-Tetrahydrocannabinol inhibits epithelial growth factor-induced lung cancer cell migration
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli...stasis_in_vivo

Smoking Cannabis Does Not Cause Cancer Of Lung or Upper Airways
http://ccrmg.org/journal/05aut/nocancer.html

No association between lung cancer and cannabis smoking in large study
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...l.php?id=219#2

Marijuana Smoking Found Non-Carcinogenic
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Hematolo...Cancer/tb/3393

CLAIM #4: MARIJUANA CAUSES LUNG DISEASE
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabi...is_myth4.shtml

Marijuana Ingredients Slow Invasion by Cervical and Lung Cancer Cells
http://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/200...r-in-test-tube

Marijuana May Fight Lung Tumors
http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/new...ht-lung-tumors

Anti-Tumor Effects
http://www.ukcia.org/research/AntiTumorEffects.htm

Cannabinoids Induce Cancer Cell Proliferation via Tumor Necrosis Factor {alpha}-Converting Enzyme (TACE/ADAM17)-Mediated Transactivation of the Epidermal Growth Factor Receptor
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cg...urcetype=HWCIT





CANCER- LYMPHOMA

Cannabinoid Receptor Agonists May Be Novel Class of Anti-Lymphoma Agents
http://www.pacifier.com/~alive/cmu/c...d_lymphoma.htm





CANCER- MELANOMA

Dronabinol for supportive therapy in patients with malignant melanoma and liver metastases.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=180

Intractable nausea and vomiting due to gastrointestinal mucosal metastases
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=35




CANCER- ORAL

Smoking of cannabis does not increase risk for oral cancer
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...l.php?id=175#1

Marijuana use and Risk of Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma
http://web.archive.org/web/200601121...lCarcinoma.pdf



CANCER- PANCREATIC

Cannabinoids Induce Apoptosis of Pancreatic Tumor Cells
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cg...act/66/13/6748




CANCER- PROSTATE

Inhibition of Human Breast and Prostate Cancer Cell Proliferation
http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/con...ract/141/1/118

Cannabinoid Receptor as a Novel Target for the Treatment of Prostate Cancer
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cg.../65/5/1635.pdf




CANCER- RISK CANNABIS VS TOBACCO

Cannabis Smoke and Cancer: Assessing the Risk
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6891

Cannabis and tobacco smoke are not equally carcinogenic
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1277837

Smoking Marijuana Does Not Cause Lung Cancer
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n1065/a03.html

Blunt Smokers Link Dependence Potential To Nicotine
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/52838.php

Premiere British Medical Journal Pronounces Marijuana Safer Than Alcohol, Tobacco
http://cannabislink.ca/medical/safer.html

Why Doesn't Smoking Marijuana Cause Cancer?
http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/408/14275.html

Marijuana Smoking Found Non-Carcinogenic
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Hematolo...Cancer/tb/3393




CANCER- SKIN

Inhibition of skin tumor growth
http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/full/...=MpUgjDbqHybAU

Cannabis Reduces Skin Cancer
http://www.onlinepot.org/medical/skincancerreport.htm




CANCER- TESTICULAR

The antiemetic efficacy of nabilone
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=127

Chemotherapy for Testicular Cancer
http://www.rxmarihuana.com/shared_co...cularchemo.htm




CANCER- VARIOUS/ UNNAMED

Derivatives of cannabis for anti-cancer treatment
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...o-do060605.php

Cancer Killer
http://www.november.org/stayinfo/bre...cerKiller.html

Anandamide Induces Apoptosis
http://www.jbc.org/cgi/content/abstract/275/41/31938

Nabilone improves pain and symptom management
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=177

The effects of smoked cannabis in painful peripheral neuropathy
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=96

Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol for appetite stimulation
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=52

Dronabinol and prochlorperazine in combination
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=28

Dronabinol enhancement of appetite in cancer patients.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=149

Efficacy of tetrahydrocannabinol
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=31

Nabilone versus domperidone
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=129

Inhalation marijuana as an antiemetic for cancer chemotherapy.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=155

Nabilone vs. placebo in chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=156

The antiemetic activity of tetrahydrocanabinol versus metoclopramide
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=24

Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol as an antiemetic for patients receiving cancer chemotherapy
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...how.php?s_id=5

Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol as an antiemetic in cancer patients receiving high-dose methotrexate
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=23

Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) as an antiemetic in patients treated with cancer chemotherapy
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=27

Amelioration of cancer chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting by delta-9-THC
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=107

Superiority of nabilone over prochlorperazine as an antiemetic
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=126

Analgesic effect of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=16

The analgesic properties of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol and codeine.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=17

Comparison of orally administered cannabis extract and delta-9-THC
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli...ia_Study_Group

Cannabis May Help Combat Cancer-causing Herpes Viruses
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0923092627.htm

Marijuana Smoking Found Non-Carcinogenic
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Hematolo...Cancer/tb/3393

HU-331, is More Potent and Less Cardiotoxic than Doxorubicin
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/co...ract/322/2/646

Therapeutic Aspects of Cannabis and Cannabinoids
http://www.ukcia.org/research/Thereputic/Therapeut.htm

Anti-Tumor Effects
http://www.ukcia.org/research/AntiTumorEffects.htm

Cannabinoids for Cancer Treatment: Progress and Promise
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cg.../full/68/2/339

Cannabinoids and cancer: pros and cons of an antitumour strategy
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...tool=pmcentrez


THC/ TETRAHYDROCANNABINOL

THC is effective in the treatment of tics in Tourette syndrome
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=98

THC effective in Tourette-Syndrome
http://www.pacifier.com/~alive/cmu/tourette_thc.htm

THC effective in Tourette syndrome in a 6-week trial
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...l.php?id=146#1

Treatment of Tourette's Syndrome With Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/...full/156/3/495

THC inhibits primary marker of Alzheimer's disease
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...l.php?id=225#3

THC improves appetite and reverses weight loss in AIDS patients
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=189

Cancer-related anorexia-cachexia syndrome
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli...ia_Study_Group

THC effective in appetite and weight loss in severe lung disease (COPD)
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...l.php?id=191#2

The antinociceptive effect of Delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol in the arthritic rat
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli...inoid_receptor

Synergy between Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol and morphine in the arthritic rat
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli..._arthritic_rat

Bronchial effects of aerosolized delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=109

Bronchodilator effect of delta1-tetrahydrocannabinol administered by aerosol
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=60

Effects of smoked marijuana in experimentally induced asthma.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=57

Marijuana and oral delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol on specific airway conductance
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=67

New Synthetic Delta-9-THC Inhaler Offers Safe, Rapid Delivery
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/22937.php

Smoked marijuana and oral delta-9-THC on specific airway conductance in asthmatic subjects
http://www.ukcia.org/research/Smoked...nAsthmatic.php

Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol in patients with recurrent glioblastoma multiforme.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=193

9-Tetrahydrocannabinol Inhibits Cell Cycle Progression in Human Breast Cancer
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cg...act/66/13/6615

THC and prochlorperazine effective in reducing vomiting in women following breast surgery
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...l.php?id=219#1

{Delta}9-Tetrahydrocannabinol-Induced Apoptosis in Jurkat Leukemia T Cells
http://mcr.aacrjournals.org/cgi/cont...stract/4/8/549

Delta(9)-THC) prevents cerebral infarction
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli...nt_hypothermia

Medical marijuana: study shows that THC slows atherosclerosis
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the...l_marijua.html

Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol shows antispastic and analgesic effects
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=10

The effect of delta-9-THC on human spasticity.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=154

The treatment of spasticity with D9-THC) in patients with spinal cord injury
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=79

Delta-9-THC as an alternative therapy for overactive bladders in spinal cord injury
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=102

The effect of orally and rectally administered delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol on spasticity
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=12

The treatment of spasticity with Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol in persons with spinal cord injury.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=166

Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol-Induced Effects on Psychosis and Cognition
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli..._and_Cognition

The effect of orally and rectally administered delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol on spasticity
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=12

Marihuana as a therapeutic agent for muscle spasm or spasticity.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=53

Analgesic effect of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=16

The analgesic properties of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol and codeine.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=17

The perceived effects of smoked cannabis on patients with multiple sclerosis.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=13

Cannabis use for chronic non-cancer pain
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=91

Tetrahydrocannabinol for treatment of chronic pain
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=147

Delta-9-THC based monotherapy in fibromyalgia patients
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=194

Delta(9)-THC) prevents cerebral infarction
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli...nt_hypothermia

Delta(9)-Tetrahydrocannabinol protects hippocampal neurons from excitotoxicity
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli...excitotoxicity

THC effective in intractable nausea in a patient undergoing gastric bypass surgery
http://bbsnews.net/article.php/2008020313112065

Differential Effects of THC or CBD-rich Cannabis Extracts on Working Memory in Rats
http://www.ukcia.org/research/THCCBDWorkingMemory.pdf

Oral vs. Inhaled Cannabinoids for Nausea/Vomiting from Cancer Chemotherapy
http://www.medmjscience.org/Pages/science/pierson.html

Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannibinol as an Antiemetic in Cancer Patients Receiving High-Dose Methotrexate
http://www.medmjscience.org/Pages/science/chang.html


Neurocognitive performance during acute THC intoxication in heavy and occasional cannabis users.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

Divergent effects of cannabidiol on the discriminative stimulus and place conditioning effects of Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=2279017

The diverse CB1 and CB2 receptor pharmacology of three plant cannabinoids: Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol, cannabidiol and Δ9-tetrahydrocannabivarin
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...tool=pmcentrez

Effects of marihuana in laboratory animals and in man
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...tool=pmcentrez

Cannabidiol and (−)Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol are neuroprotective antioxidants
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...tool=pmcentrez




THC ACID/ THCA

Production of THC acid by the biosynthetic enzyme secreted from transgenic Pichia pastoris.
http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/archive/4/8/1331.htm



TETRAHYDROCANNABOVARIN/ THCV

The diverse CB1 and CB2 receptor pharmacology of three plant cannabinoids: Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol, cannabidiol and Δ9-tetrahydrocannabivarin
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...tool=pmcentrez


Plant cannabinoids: a neglected pharmacological treasure trove
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...tool=pmcentrez


is that not enough proof? or do you need more?

i think that counts more than what penicillin does. Matter of fact im allergic to that crap.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

Yes, and all cats are feline. Stating the obvious is not an argument. You become upper class by obtaining wealth...duh.

But this is about MJ, so we're speaking to the politics of general liberty. The point being, the only people advancing general liberty in America today are the Tea Party.

As such, those advancing the notion that pot should be legal have *vastly* more in common with the Tea Party than anyone else. Not everyone in the Tea Party is ready to go that far, most of them are going to take some level-headed persuasion over time.

I thought that I might gain some support from these people based on some of the very same ideals we both share. Yet, reality told me that this uber-conservative crowd would be anything but accepting to my support of marijuana legalization, which I found to be true.

Sure, I could have gone to a reggae concert or a marijuana festival and had these people all in agreement, but my hopes was that I may have changed the opinions of people who otherwise would have opposed this proposition.

I dont know what the tea party really is about, but what I do know is the marjority of tea party members I met yesterday were anything but level headed....

 

[sac beh]

I don't buy it man. I really don't. And it's my considered opinion that the med road isn't ever going to be largely persuasive.

Of course the MMJ movement isn't the end, legalization is. But your comments about medical uses of cannabis were really silly.

 

[vta]

Right on BhT!

 

[AladdinSane]

proof? or do you need more? i think that counts more than what penicillin does. Matter of fact im allergic to that crap.

Uh, I'm unpersuaded. And that's not my point. You can believe it's just like medicine, fine.

You aren't going to achieve your goals as readily or as completely along those lines. And it's not necessary. To most folks it's just another silly thing like Acacia berrys and anti-oxidants.

Everyone knows why people *really* want pot. To get high. Just like we drink alcohol....also credited with a plethora of medical properties...to get loosened up.

The government has no business interfering here.

 

[sac beh]

Nice, SCF. Hopefully you won't have to post Granny's whole list to prove the point!

 

[AladdinSane]

But your comments about medical uses of cannabis were really silly.

Then I apologize. I'm trying to describe that bashing the Tea Party is counterproductive to a long-term view of complete legalization. Tea Partiers are pro-liberty, hardcore.

They represent an abundant well of untapped goodwill.

I think a lot of the publicity surrounding medical MJ has helped soften what were once reflexive pavlovian-conditionings about MJ, and now is the time to refine the message.

 

[SCF]

Uh, I'm unpersuaded. And that's not my point. You can believe it's just like medicine, fine.

You aren't going to achieve your goals as readily or as completely along those lines. And it's not necessary. To most folks it's just another silly thing like Acacia berrys and anti-oxidants.

Everyone knows why people *really* want pot. To get high. Just like we drink alcohol....also credited with a plethora of medical properties...to get loosened up.

The government has no business interfering here.

no its not like Acacia Berry's, its actually proven in a scientific way if you actually read the links. But i think you may be too lazy? it has been proven to Kill Cancer Cells. KILL CANCER. What you want a cure for aids too??????????

Anti-Tumor Effects
http://www.ukcia.org/research/AntiTumorEffects.htm

Cannabinoids Induce Cancer Cell Proliferation via Tumor Necrosis Factor {alpha}-Converting Enzyme (TACE/ADAM17)-Mediated Transactivation of the Epidermal Growth Factor Receptor
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cg...urcetype=HWCIT

Marijuana ingredient may reduce tumours-study
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LV470563.htm

Active Ingredient in Marijuana Kills Brain Cancer Cells
http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20090401...aincancercells

Cannabinoid action induces autophagy-mediated cell death through stimulation of ER stress in human glioma cells
http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948

Cannabidiol inhibits human glioma cell migration through a cannabinoid receptor-independent mechanism
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...tool=pmcentrez

 

[Noobian]

State's rights is pretty much a dead issue. The tea party seems to think that dismantling the gov is the total solution to life's problems. A smaller gov is always a good thing, but there has to be some gov or there is anarchy. I would love to hear what the tea party would like America to look like in their perfect world. If tomorrow they woke up and everything was exactly how they wanted it to be what would America look like?

 

[Noobian]

BUT now that I think about it the whole point of 19 is to reassert a state's right to make it's own laws, so as BhT has already put it, these tea partiers should be all over it right???

 

[BigBudBill]

You need to stop conflating Tea Party folks with Republicans. The vast majority of the Tea Party are Libertarians who wish to see prohibition repealed. We don't go in for big, intrusive government.

You fools don't seem to realize that the whole "medical marijuana" thing is self-destructive. Medical pot my arse, it's getting high. Some bright dork decides to get pot legalized by pretending it's medicine....smart folks don't like that and they feel like you're pulling one over.

You wan't to reach serious people, you have to speak to principle. At the very least, the Federal government has no authority to prohibit marijuana. Any such prohibitions belong to the individual states. Every Tea Party person will be receptive to that line of argument.

Government always employs doomsday fabricated horror scenarios like "Reefer Madness", "Global Warming", and "Acid Rain" to work the bedwetters into a frenzy getting them to vote for more government, less freedom, more taxes, less income.

The war on drugs is just that. Take that approach, you win. Keep on with the medical pot thing, you'll just get more people snickering in the long run, and win much later.

It's funny how they dont feel that way about how Anslinger and the govt pulled one over on them by having Cannabis prohibited in the first place though....

 

[gdtrfb]

Tea Partiers are pro-liberty, hardcore.

It's not an organization. There is no leader.

you really do kinda have to pick one eventually. either there's an organization and central theme, or there isn't.

you're very emphatic on what you think the organization (if it exists) is and what it stands for - and understandably, it's all the good stuff, or else why would you like it to begin with.

there's the bad stuff, too however....and ya'll (who-so-ever self-identifies w/ tea parties) have to own up to it before you're going to get reality to jive with your take on the idea is.

really, this topic is one hell of an example. it's a subject tailor made to fit with the rhetoric one sees from that direction, but it isn't accepted or championed in actual fact.

rather than react like i just told you i think your mom dresses you funny, actually try to process that.

why is it that you think that tea party folks are unfriendly to legalization?

i have my thoughts on the topic - traditional social conservatives have a big seat at the table, and they're largely busy body assholes - but i'm actually curious what your take is. from somebody who is apparently self identified w/ tea parties, why do you not only fail to see legalization as an agenda item, but instead see vast swaths in opposition?