Aliens, yay or nay?

[BushyOldGrower]

In a court of law there are rules of evidence just like in science.

Multiple witnesses testifying is considered overwhelming evidence of say a murder. We can be prety sure they all saw the same thing when their stories match.

Many respected people have seen this technology but they might not be so superior as we assume. Maybe they are really just a few bits of important technology ahead of us really.

Of course super intelligent robots probably exist as well as very advanced aliens but we are like ants to them. The Ferrengi types however aren't really that smart and they rmind me of some of our MBAs on Wall Street just after monetary gain.

I worship the sun and watch for the children of the sun while I chant but who knows?

 

[mpd]

That is probably true, BOG. I expect the Auotbots and Decepticons to visit within my lifetime and I am hopeful of living another thirty or forty years, God willing.

 

[Jellyfish]

We Have Come For Your Weed!

 

[ezak420]

Since existence is possible, which it can be objectively witnessed and sensed, then any connection, occurrence or idea should be possible given the right conditions and period of time. The perfect storm.

 

[BigRigRob]

U.F.O.'s are BigRigs fur from home.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I8pC_DOXC4

 

[Apodo]

why are ufo sightings insufficient?

at least in terms of providing tons of evidence in regards non-human ufo phenomena, they are enough.


also, what else is there in terms of scientific methodology to determine highly intelligent extraterrestial life on earth?

the answer should be quite obvious...

You are taking a hurried conclusion from your premises. An UFO is a unknown flying object, now, to affirm that this UFO is a tripulated vessel for an intelligent alien form, is quite a leap in the construction of your argument. You can't assume that without providing some form of evidence.
And well, as far as I know, there is no solid evidence to back up the affirmation that extraterrestrial life forms are in contact with our planet, alas from a few theory's. If you stack the word "intelligent lifeform" in your statements, I don't know any scientific publication that will remotely suggest that.
To affirm something isn't equal to material existence. Is just only the classic fallacy "Ad ignorantiam"...

 

[HempKat]

You are taking a hurried conclusion from your premises. An UFO is a unknown flying object, now, to affirm that this UFO is a tripulated vessel for an intelligent alien form, is quite a leap in the construction of your argument. You can't assume that without providing some form of evidence.
And well, as far as I know, there is no solid evidence to back up the affirmation that extraterrestrial life forms are in contact with our planet, alas from a few theory's. If you stack the word "intelligent lifeform" in your statements, I don't know any scientific publication that will remotely suggest that.
To affirm something isn't equal to material existence. Is just only the classic fallacy "Ad ignorantiam"...

Perhaps it's actually a fine line. I can see your point when it's limited to just seeing a UFO flying around. When that story expands however to seeing a UFO and then seeing some being clearly not of this planet emerge (as some people have claimed) then your point gets kind of fuzzy. You could still apply everything you said in reference to concluding the UFO is piloted by aliens because there still wouldn't be any scientific publications or anything to back up the claim that these were intelligent lifeforms from outer space other then the person encountering them. Yet that person from his or her point of view, is witnessing living proof. When such people step forward though they are usually cast as crazy or having had some sort of hallucination because there is no supporting evidence. Apparently the only way such a person might truely be believed is if he or she convinces the alien or aliens being encountered, to appear on CNN to be interviewed by Piers Morgan.

 

[BushyOldGrower]

That wouldn't prove anything to a skeptic.

People still think the earth she is flat...

 

[Galactic]

Re: Aliens, yay or nay?

Hempkat your rhetoric is of the armchair idiot variety. Did you get it on sale?

 

[greenmatter]

the aliens wouldn't visit here because bipedal mammals just take some things too seriously


a blast from the past >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSnqQFY8fZ0

 

[Canniwhatsis]

LOL!

 

[qwerty]

I have seen two objects in the sky which I have to say were unidentifiable. Both times the object looked exactly the same. It was a bright, white light, in a near perfect circle. It had no trails and was clearly solid. It was not a falling meteorite or plane. The first time I saw it, it moved straight down toward the earth. I saw it for about three seconds. The second time I saw it, it was coming down at an angle for a few seconds, then it did a sharp 90 degree turn upward, a near perfect V. I found this move to be impossible for falling space debris or an airplane. I would have to say the object then took off at warp speed.

 

[willyweed]

you show me your alien, and i will show you mine! i only ever believe in myself ,and that can be a struggle at times.live long and prosper \/

 

[bombadil.360]

You are taking a hurried conclusion from your premises. An UFO is a unknown flying object, now, to affirm that this UFO is a tripulated vessel for an intelligent alien form, is quite a leap in the construction of your argument. You can't assume that without providing some form of evidence.
And well, as far as I know, there is no solid evidence to back up the affirmation that extraterrestrial life forms are in contact with our planet, alas from a few theory's. If you stack the word "intelligent lifeform" in your statements, I don't know any scientific publication that will remotely suggest that.
To affirm something isn't equal to material existence. Is just only the classic fallacy "Ad ignorantiam"...

hello,

what conclusion have I made besides hinting at the possibility that these ufos many of us here have witnessed were of non-human origin?

as to what I wrote regarding a specific scientific methodology to determine whether or not the earth is or has been visited by higher intelligent extraterrestrial life, you did not understand it.

what I'm saying and others here is that how can anyone provide conclusive proof on the matter of higher extraterrestrial intelligence when there's no point of reference to base any such search for proof?

in other words, how do you go about looking for higher extraterrestrial intelligence when you have no idea what it is?

thus, if you have no idea what it is (none of us really do), how do we pin-point solid proof in regards its possible visitations to earth?

 

[BushyOldGrower]

Nonsense

 

[Hank Hemp]

I never dreamed that his would going on how it has. Have we covered the Kennedy killings yet?

 

[greenmatter]

I never dreamed that his would going on how it has. Have we covered the Kennedy killings yet?

oswald was an Artesian

 

[Tonygreen]

 

[noyd666]

i see one every morning in mirror, ever changing never same, must be true.

 

[HempKat]

That wouldn't prove anything to a skeptic.

People still think the earth she is flat...

Perhaps but if someone is a true skeptic they're not likely to believe even reasonably solid evidence.