A lb from a 400 HPS, try II: 20 untrained 3' plants

[Guest]

Cap,
1st class job,very informative and super inspirational,if my 400 produces half that i would be thrilled,grow on.

 

[Organic Vapor]

I am really glad you gave them more time.. they are looking great!!! I am thinking you got a shot at that 400 now.. keep on keeping..

aka ice cold..

 

[GMT]

I love your threads Cap, You and I take opposite routes to the same destination. I want to see how much I can get from 1 plant whereas you want to see how many plants you can get under 1 bulb. I must say, after trying your lst without any of the topping I usually goin for, I can use this method right under the bulb where hight is a big no no, and go for single colas or a single supper topped and cropped plant at the back where hight is desirable.

 

[Guest]

Harvesting the first five today and five a day for the next three days

 

[BushyOldGrower]

Did Tick use my Sweet Cindy in that? It looks similar to mine. Not sure though.

Ortega is a big yielder isnt it? BOG

 

[tokinjoe]

Very nice progress Cap!! I'm glad to see you are at the end, especially since you are down to your last zip! I'm really curios to see where this grow comes out as far as yield. You've got us all watering at the mouth as ususal, bro. Damn fine job.....If ya get a chance, drop by my thread and check out my pics of my bb x nl I'm growing for outdoors. They are already monstrous. You guys have no idea just how much an inspiration you are to all of us on these forums. Keep it up bro, yer ok for a Liberal in my book....lol

 

[Guest]

HARVEST TIME none to soon! I am happy for you - if people here only knew your real heart for the hurting - my hats of to you & the cannabis spirit - U represent.

ya see Caprichiso; I found it easy in life to give when u have a lot - but to offer & give when there is a personal need & not a lot to go around - that is REAL giving that will last into the next life.

If giving does not cost you something - it's only a puff in the wind to eternity


:friend

ps. (I think he told me no BOG)

 

[gwfh1974]

Way To Grow!

Way To Grow!

HARVEST TIME none to soon! I am happy for you - if people here only knew your real heart for the hurting - my hats of to you & the cannabis spirit - U represent.

Hey there Cap what a grow!
First off my hubby and I totally agree with Fredster , you are such a kind cannabis spirit. :wink: As always, we have learned so much by reading your thread. Keep up the great lessons our IC :friends:
Stay safe and happy smokin!​

 

[Guest]

Hey, thanks guys. Still super busy, harvesting and getting the next generations of plants in the room. I'll post in detail soon. Some harvest pics from the first day. I'm through getting through 11-15 now

 

[tokinjoe]

Almost done...Seems like yesterday you started this thread bro! Ok, so what is next?? Oh, congrats by the way, whether you make the lb or not it's been entertaining and informative as always..Peace. TJ

 

[packn2puff]

You Rock

You Rock

Plant manipulator...plant whisperer....plant god....I've learned so much from your threads especially LST....thanks for the show...loved those trichome pix. Kind sir...can you spare some loose buds

 

[mrwags]

day 60

Cap I gotta say that last pic is a nomination for photo of the month for sure. Well Done my friend. Hope it smokes as well as it looks.


Mr.Wags

 

[Guest]

Well, the first numbers are in and it's not even close.

An average of 13 grams per plant from the first five, which will total out to 260 from the entire room, or just under 10 ounces.

Some things to note:

These plants received only two weeks of veg growth, meaning 80 days from rooted clone to harvest

The fifteen trained plant I did last time had almost four weeks to achieve 20% better yield numbers with 25% fewer plants, but the two fewer weeks per generation mean, in the course of a year, I can get an entire extra harvest out of 20 untrained plants. This would come close to mitigating the yield difference.

The biggest benefit is the ease of growing this way. No training saved me probably 10 - 15 hours of work through the couse of 80 days.

The biggest drawback, assuming equal annual yields, are the number of plants involved, which is how LEO is America determine severity of infraction

All in all, this was worth doing but I wont do it again. I have restarted my perpetual harvest using these clones and have some newbeans on the way that I'm doing a test grow with. I'll fully document the results as my room stays at 20 watts per square foot using a plain old 400 HPS.

Stay tuned for the rest of the harvest results over the course of the next few days.

 

[GMT]

Nice show Cap, so what will be the major change in the next grow?

 

[Esskie]

Hi there Cap,
I've been following your thread and have enjoyed it immensly! :smile: , my kudos to you for your efforts man.

Can I ask you approx what height the plants were after the 2wks veg and/or when they went into 12/12?, my apolz if I've missed it in the thread.

After my last grow, which consisted of Afghan mainly, I'll be topping/training every grow from now on methinks?, I let some of the afghans just grow untouched: no topping, no training, bending, nada.
They were all too small though when I put them into flower I think now? as yields were, on average 14g per plant dried but they were only 18"-24" tall when finished . The others which had been topped and/or trained plus a lot of the popcorn removed from the bottom yielded much better.

I think maybe the choice of strain definately has a bearing on this, as you'll know, some tend to branch a lot producing natural side tops but some strains don't branch much at all unless topped or trained etc. I guess it was just my bad luck that the ghanis I didn't top/train didn't show much lateral branching? lol.

ATB, Esskie

 

[gwfh1974]

Cap
We are still hoping you hit your goal bud we'll keep stoppin in to see my IC :friends:
Stay safe and happy growing!
​

 

[Guest]

Thanks GMT, well currently i have 10 plants going as the first generation of my perpetual harvest. Then I'll begin rund of five plants per generation, with four generations in the room. Should be harvesting five plants every 15 days or soby this summer.

Esskie, thanks for the kind words.
-After two weeks of veg they were between 12" and 14" tall
-Don't top your plants, just tie it over and keep your most developed top to harvest. See link in sig.
-I know what you mean. This strain showed tremendous side branching which may have hurt my yield due to the style of grow. But it should do very well in training for my perpetual harvest.

GWFH, thanks, I'll keep trying. My eforts at setting a baseline for cannabis growing are well underway.

Final yields are in. A total of 274 grams dried or just as predicted above, just under 10 ounces. I'm pretty disapointed in the yield numbers, but not really. I mean, ten ounces is ten ounces, right?

 

[Guest]

Some harvest pics.

Here you see my space for about 18 hours as I ran through 20 plants

 

[Guest]

A gram per watt at 20 watts per sqf?

NO

 

[Esskie]

Hi there Cap :smile: ,

-After two weeks of veg they were between 12" and 14" tall

Thanx for that man, I was just curious as everything is usually topped prior to flowering here (usually for a clone) but I need to veg longer/grow taller before flowering from now on too.

-Don't top your plants, just tie it over and keep your most developed top to harvest. See link in sig.

That happens to be a very informative guide to plant training my friend! , I read it before to get info about training my Humboldt SnowBud motherplant so she produces more shoots/clones and just recently read through most of it again.
Not that training in flower is a problem at all, they're in 12L buckets which I could place screws? into the top of to tie onto? but I'm not sure I could trust myself to keep on top of it? .

Btw, I am just beginning a, hopefully!, perpetual harvest cycle too , the way I've worked mine out (based on an 8 week flowering strain) is either 6 plants every 2wks? or 12 plants every 4wks?, despite the last one not being strictly a perpetual harvest.
12 every 4wks would do as ok!, I'm a heavy smoker but c'mon! lol. If the 6 every 2 option does get going I'd like to veg until the plants are approx 20"-24" tall after topping to ensure a decent return per plant you know?.

-....This strain showed tremendous side branching which may have hurt my yield due to the style of grow. But it should do very well in training for my perpetual harvest.

Really?!?, do you mean because you had been training them?.
A plant with lots of good healthy lateral branching for me, is good for filling in gaps between plants not to mention the multiple heads. I hate to see light hitting the clay pebbles and/or between my buckets coz if it's shining on those then it's not producing therefore it's wasted light > power you know?.

Just the style of growing I normally end up doing?, I do like to remove a lot of the very bottom branches & popcorn so there's more focus on the upper part of the plant though. I always really fancied trying a SCROG or SOG but despite doing a couple of kind of? SOGs, never done a screen grow.

Already looking forward to your next grow thread I've enjoyed this one so much!, thanx for showing us all your grow and sharing your methods etc. I love to read other folk's grow reports :smile:

ATB, Esskie :smile: