Incognegro
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If finances is a deal..go with the free 10inch...and make due.
Or sell it to me for cheap since you're getting it for free!
Or sell it to me for cheap since you're getting it for free!
Check out the can max fan lineup. I haven't used these, I went with a smaller S&P fan, but I have heard great things, and the stats on these fans are great as far as noise vs airflow and pressure capability. However the different sizes have completely different stats. On can's website they list the cfm capability at different static pressures of their fans, which a lot of manufacturers don't do. Check out the chart here: http://canfilters.com/max_fan_home_2.html
An 800 cfm rated fan will never push anywhere near 800 cfms when installed in a grow room exhaust setup. I will use the 14" can max fan as an example since the numbers are published. Can says that their filters add .75" inches WG(water gauge, it's how they measure SP) pressure to a fan. So you hook up a carbon filter and your 1700 cfm fan is brought down to 1180 cfms. But you also need ducting, say you run a good length of ducting with a turn in it, and your exhaust ducting which might add another .1". Your intake has to be pulled through a length of duct that adds .1". Then your exhaust air has to push out of the holes in your crawl space, adding a further .05" At this point you are at 1" inches WG of static pressure. At this pressure your mighty 1700cfm 14" fan has dropped to just 240 cfm. So for this setup the 14" max fan would be a terrible choice.
Most fans we use for growing indoors will have huge cfm loss after 1" of static pressure. Most indoor grow rooms that utilize a carbon filter and ducting will be pushing that much pressure or more through their fans. So you may need a much large fan than you think, and always look at the static pressure charts to see if the fan you want can push enough cfms at the high pressures it will be under. Make it a priority to minimize pressure in your ventilation. As you can see in the charts, a small change of .1" can be a huge change in CFMS when you get above 1" of pressure.
You have to think about fan noise in terms of the motor noise of the fan running and the noise of the the air moving. As humble1 says, two smaller fans often will be more motor noise than a larger fan. Most fans get louder when they are working harder, or the more static pressure the louder the fan noise.
There is no need for dual exhaust fans or filters if it is just one chamber. Go with one large fan and a filter fit to it. I would agree that can filters are heavy and a pain to put up with one person; I would not buy one again if I could find one of the lighter designs locally. Earlier in the thread incognegro recommends 3-5 times air exchange per minute. This works out to 4000cfms of airflow, requiring a fan rated somewhere above 10,000 CFMs and some kind of massive industrial filter. This is a little over the top. If you can achieve 1 turnover of the air per minute you will be doing well, which means you will want a fan that can hit 800 cfms at 1" or higher WG.
Now that I've finished my essay, I hope it helps. Good luck.
I'm out. Scientific theory has surpassed conventional wisdom and applied force in the same local area as the OP. Good luck and godspeed. I hope your intake hole doesn't whistle too much.
main question is do i even need a fan?
go for the gold and get a 12"vortex for exhaust, you can always use a speed regulator if its too much, but if you buy smaller you cant boost a smaller fan if its too little...
as for the setup, exhaust id always more important than intake, i would do a single 10" intake with a 8-10" 500-800 cfm fan and use a reducer if you plan on using the 8" fan with 10" ducting, and do a double exhaust with a 12" vortex 1400cfm....and if this was too much then use a fan speed regulator
i would also make your intake from the crawl space and exhaust to the laundry room, crawlspaces will have fresh cold air because they are ventilated, and heat rises so it would be more efficient to run your exhaust up high and your intake down low
so im gonna go with the 12in 1780 CFM can fan....
http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AEFCFMF12&eq=&Tp=
but what kind of filter? i want something LIGHT. the can 150 is freaking 166 lbs!!! the can filter lite is only 50 lbs but its only got a 10in flange..
Did I just quote myself? Lazy bastardTake the ten AND buy the 12. You'll be better off in the end.