canadacannabis
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Hello my fellow Canucks. I am a longtime lurker of these forums and had an account for many years (since 2005) that I had to delete last year because of security concerns. Feels great to be back posting on here again!
For my whole life, since the age of 11 I have made my living (or at least greatly supplemented my income) by growing gorilla style and also running a small (4, 1000W lights) indoor room.
I have always been super passionate about growing, especially outdoors and have had many super successful past seasons and figured I would be doing it until I was too old for the workload
Not even that long ago (5 years at the most) I always had most of my crop sold before it was even dried (buyers already lined up) and the rest sold very quickly, always fetching at least 2k a pound (I am in Ontario) unless I was selling super bulk but even then, I very rarely would accept less than 1800 and this is for gorilla stye grown weed. Sure, some of it would look real nice but some would look bushy as fuck but it didn't matter, the buyer bought what you had without complaining.
These past years it has turned from being a sellers market to a buyers market. If they don't like your herb, they won't buy it because they can easily find something they do like. Anybody can now walk into a store front or order off an online dispensary without even having a medical card.
It pisses me off that retail prices for small quantities (ounce or less) have actually gone up yet wholesale prices have plummeted like a mother fucker.
Some of my outdoor weed I can easily pass as indoor, but if I do mention its outdoor its automatically worth fuck all. I grow great indoor weed that I used to sell for $3200/lb all day. Now, I'm lucky if someone offers me a little more than 2k and I'm talking for a single pack, not bulk.
Last few outdoor seasons I haven't even bothered to trim my weed, just cut the fan leafs off an turned it all into hash which I had to take a great risk of getting it "down south" to be able to unload it for a fair price. The prices I get offered for my top shelf outdoor are straight up insulting. Like I said, I could (and have) passed it off as indoor but if they know its outdoor I'm not even gonna get 1k/lb for a single pack.
I am on my last run of my 4kw grow room. I am hardly making fuck all and its not a legal operation so the risk is very far from being worth the reward. (I am not at all a shitty grower. Get at least 1.5 pounds a light every run and its always at least AAA quality)
I have the opportunity to invest in a very large greenhouse operation next season but I just don't know if its even worth it. Outdoor packs are very hard to move and impossible to get the price you want for them which means we would be turning most if not all of it into hash and concentrates. We think we will run one light dep green house and hopefully that weed comes out looking like indoor and we can unload it before the flood, the rest will probably be all turned into some type of concentrate.
I am sorry for the massive wall of text, but, if you were me and had the opportunity to invest (not a cheap investment) in a very large scale outdoor greenhouse operation (I am talking over 1000 plants that will yield around a half pound each) would you go for it?
I'd have to live on site in a trailer with very limited comfort (no running water, small gas powered genny for essentials and thats it.)
If this was 5 years ago I'd be so excited to live on site on such a large op, but, now, after running the numbers I just don't even think its worth it.
For any of you cash croppers, are any of you still making a decent living from just growing weed? Or, are you feeling like I am and that very sadly it might be time to try and find a new way to earn a living?
For my whole life, since the age of 11 I have made my living (or at least greatly supplemented my income) by growing gorilla style and also running a small (4, 1000W lights) indoor room.
I have always been super passionate about growing, especially outdoors and have had many super successful past seasons and figured I would be doing it until I was too old for the workload
Not even that long ago (5 years at the most) I always had most of my crop sold before it was even dried (buyers already lined up) and the rest sold very quickly, always fetching at least 2k a pound (I am in Ontario) unless I was selling super bulk but even then, I very rarely would accept less than 1800 and this is for gorilla stye grown weed. Sure, some of it would look real nice but some would look bushy as fuck but it didn't matter, the buyer bought what you had without complaining.
These past years it has turned from being a sellers market to a buyers market. If they don't like your herb, they won't buy it because they can easily find something they do like. Anybody can now walk into a store front or order off an online dispensary without even having a medical card.
It pisses me off that retail prices for small quantities (ounce or less) have actually gone up yet wholesale prices have plummeted like a mother fucker.
Some of my outdoor weed I can easily pass as indoor, but if I do mention its outdoor its automatically worth fuck all. I grow great indoor weed that I used to sell for $3200/lb all day. Now, I'm lucky if someone offers me a little more than 2k and I'm talking for a single pack, not bulk.
Last few outdoor seasons I haven't even bothered to trim my weed, just cut the fan leafs off an turned it all into hash which I had to take a great risk of getting it "down south" to be able to unload it for a fair price. The prices I get offered for my top shelf outdoor are straight up insulting. Like I said, I could (and have) passed it off as indoor but if they know its outdoor I'm not even gonna get 1k/lb for a single pack.
I am on my last run of my 4kw grow room. I am hardly making fuck all and its not a legal operation so the risk is very far from being worth the reward. (I am not at all a shitty grower. Get at least 1.5 pounds a light every run and its always at least AAA quality)
I have the opportunity to invest in a very large greenhouse operation next season but I just don't know if its even worth it. Outdoor packs are very hard to move and impossible to get the price you want for them which means we would be turning most if not all of it into hash and concentrates. We think we will run one light dep green house and hopefully that weed comes out looking like indoor and we can unload it before the flood, the rest will probably be all turned into some type of concentrate.
I am sorry for the massive wall of text, but, if you were me and had the opportunity to invest (not a cheap investment) in a very large scale outdoor greenhouse operation (I am talking over 1000 plants that will yield around a half pound each) would you go for it?
I'd have to live on site in a trailer with very limited comfort (no running water, small gas powered genny for essentials and thats it.)
If this was 5 years ago I'd be so excited to live on site on such a large op, but, now, after running the numbers I just don't even think its worth it.
For any of you cash croppers, are any of you still making a decent living from just growing weed? Or, are you feeling like I am and that very sadly it might be time to try and find a new way to earn a living?