Manning 450 yards passing 5 TD's
lets do this Peyton!
lets do this Peyton!
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NFL 2014
- Thread starter whadeezlrg
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Hey everyone,
Staying up late for the game
Go Broncos !!!
GA
Staying up late for the game
Go Broncos !!!
GA
My mistake. Was thinking of who beat S.D last week, in their house. Admittedly, I know nothing about fantasy football. I am old school. I just don't get how you can pick what players will have a good game on a particular night? Seems more like guess work, but then again, so is gambling on any sport. Your player can get hurt, something that is unpredictable. Then what? Too many variables for me. I've a hard enough time picking the team that will win/cover, let alone what player will have a good game on a particular night. I understand there are prizes in the millions, which is tempting, but it's like playing the lottery. Like I said, I know nothing about Fantasy Football. I'm just wondering what kind of bets you are making. I know people at work have their fantasy football leagues, and the person who wins gets the pool. I think it's a good way to have fun on a game without risking much. So what do you bet tonight, and how much? You pick certain payers on each team that you think will have a good game, and then you bet on those players? You have to pick players on the same team, or you can mix and match players on each team? So, if you pick Peyton Manning on your team, you can win even if Denver loses? And you can pick Manning and Antonio Gates as your QB and receiver, so if their stats are good, you can win, even though Gates is receiving his passes from Rivers? It's all pretty crazy, but I can see why it's popular. I'm way too behind the curve to risk money betting in that manner.
OTOH, Denver played so well last week, and Manning had that fire in his eyes. Despite neck surgeries and a year off, and his age, he is playing better each of the last two seasons than he ever played at Indianapolis. He is still improving, and definitely the best QB I have ever seen. As awesome as he was in Indy while younger, he is even more awesome now. Easily the smartest QB ever. A coach on the field who reads defenses and gets rid of the ball better than anyone. I have been betting Chargers all season, and love Phillip Rivers, but I couldn't go against Manning @ a mile high. Probably the kiss of death for them....
I would love it, but 5 TDs? Would be ridiculous with any other QB, but possible with Manning. So, if he threw 5 TDs, you would make money tonight, or is it cumulative for the season?
The line opened @ 8, then went to 8.5 yesterday, and tonight it went up to 9. I have some at 8.5, and some @ 9. Don't look good now. The under looks like it was the best bet. I have Denver at -.5 for first quarter, and -6 for the first half. Don't understand the first quarter line, but in almost every game, the favorite, no matter how much they are favored by, is favored by only half a point. Doesn't make sense to me. Don't understand why it's half a point in every game. So, now, they are on the 2 and about to score, but they are in the second quarter, so I lost the first quarter bet. I will try to make up for that in the second half. Are you able to bet quarters and halves?
yeah that's the basics of it, pick talented players with good opportunities and plug them into a 9 slot lineup(qb,3wr,2rb,1te,defense,kicker) you have to fit everyone under a set 'salary cap' and many times you end up digging deep to find unknown/littleknown players that have favorable matchups that don't cost too much thus achieving 'value'(considered at a minimum 2 fantasy pts per $1,000 of salary). that's really the trick to daily fantasy...finding value at all salary tiers. In terms of players getting hurt/not producing what you have them projected to produce, it can put you some pts behind but in essence it's safer because you have more of a chance at making up that lack of production with your other players...the guys that win these million dollar tourney's don't necessarily get every position right, but if you hit on a few of the 'studs' for that week you're giving yourself a solid upperhand...it's pretty amazing how many people just throw $ into these competitions without so much as a clue(my best guess would be somewhere between 15-20% of all fields are made up of these types of entries) in essence leaving you with only 30-35% of the field that you have to score higher than to cash...I like those odds...basically betting on yourself to be 'smarter' than 35% of the field
game lines and player props are HUGE in terms of research, there is definitely a relationship between fantasy and betting on games, ie: playing running backs in suspected blowouts, qb's that will probably be playing from behind and thus throwing the ball around a lot more, etc. I pick a lot of players from games that have high totals(o/u) when picking defenses I try to prey on the bad teams that have a lot of turnovers, or are missing some starters on the line etc... Houston & dallas are both defenses that I'm targeting this week...both going up against 3rd string qb's that either haven't played in a while or at all...kickers are a toss up...I just pick the cheapest one in what I imagine would be a close game...preferably indoors
game lines and player props are HUGE in terms of research, there is definitely a relationship between fantasy and betting on games, ie: playing running backs in suspected blowouts, qb's that will probably be playing from behind and thus throwing the ball around a lot more, etc. I pick a lot of players from games that have high totals(o/u) when picking defenses I try to prey on the bad teams that have a lot of turnovers, or are missing some starters on the line etc... Houston & dallas are both defenses that I'm targeting this week...both going up against 3rd string qb's that either haven't played in a while or at all...kickers are a toss up...I just pick the cheapest one in what I imagine would be a close game...preferably indoors
Hedging bets is a waste of money if your original bet is a winner, by hedging it youre limiting your winnings. but if you lose, then by hedging it youre limiting your losses, a good thing.
just a difference in philosophy, if you were confident enough to make that first bet, why not let it ride? but just like anything else, sometimes the hedge helps, sometimes it doesnt.
but if youve been watching the game and think a second half hedge is in order, then it makes sense that you're following the flow of the game and can make an informed guess as to how the 2nd half will turn out.
do you have to be watching all the games in order to make good 2nd half bets?
just a difference in philosophy, if you were confident enough to make that first bet, why not let it ride? but just like anything else, sometimes the hedge helps, sometimes it doesnt.
but if youve been watching the game and think a second half hedge is in order, then it makes sense that you're following the flow of the game and can make an informed guess as to how the 2nd half will turn out.
do you have to be watching all the games in order to make good 2nd half bets?
Well, if you watch the lines @ halftime, often they are very strange. The team that's winning will often get points. Often you can see one line is dominating, one QB is hot, or what not. Keep watching the second half lines for awhile, and you will see what I mean. You have more information to go on, and you know who may have gotten hurt.
Denver favored by 3 at the half. Over/under is 26, so if I wanted to hedge my bets on Denver, I could take the points, in case Chargers win second half, however I didn't do that. Good opportunity to bet Denver though, giving up only 3, in a game their defense was dominating. That's what I did.
manning is my fave football player, brady second..but peyton is just the best imho
He is the best QB ever to play, and he is the smartest player in the league, by far. The way he reads the defense and then audibles, it's incredible. Like Deon Sanders said at halftime, it's like having an offensive coordinator @ QB. That last touchdown came from him waiting, reading the defense, and changing the play. Incredible catch, too.
Embarrassing how Denver is not covering Antonio Gates on the goal line in two consecutive possessions. He should have been doubled on each of those plays. How can you let their #1 receiver run free @ the goal line? Everyone in the stadium knew where the ball was going but Denver's defense.
As far as penalties, do you really believe the referees are instructed by the league to favor one team?
As far as penalties, do you really believe the referees are instructed by the league to favor one team?
Don't believe greatest ever, but would agree he is the smartedt mm out there now. Just amazing. And I do believe the NFL is all about money and that all the refs are in cahoots.
Peyton Manning is by far the best regular season qb ever so far. Always someone who comes along better but for the time being no one is better during the regular season as him yr after yr he breaks the most prestigious records and overall just wins games every week yr in yr out. Imagine how many teams will be lining up for his services when he retires from playing?
Im starting to love the word "Omaha"
It's even more impressive when you consider that he had spinal fusion surgery on his neck. Doctors told me I needed the same operation, and I declined because it's dangerous (5% mortality rate), it takes a tremendous amount of rehab...over a year. A year in a neck brace, and no guarantee of success. Couple that with the fact that he is playing in a violent sport, and he is 38 years old,, and is still improving each year. The last two years, after a year off, he has had his best seasons. His knowledge of the game is incredible. He can stand there at the line of scrimmage, look over the defense, and immediately know what he needs to do to beat that defense. Then he changes the play, tells everyone where to line up and what's coming, and invariably he is right. He sees the open man, and gets rid of the ball so fast, that the defense is literally helpless. Imagine when the guys on defense see him looking them over, and then call the perfect play to beat what they are trying to do. Got to be discouraging for them. This guy is reading their minds, and there is nothing they can do to stop him. No other QB playing now, and no other QB in history can do what he does. Still improving every year at an age when most QBs are done. Easily the MVP of the league, and the most intense competitor I've seen. Good genes, as his father was Archie Manning, a really good QB in his day, and his brother Eli, winner of multiple Super Bowls, proving that genetics is important in making a great athlete.
Miraculous Meds
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I think he had that surgery 4 times!
He doesn't have the arm strength he used to, but he is better. truly amazing.
Why he says "Omaha":
"To understand the call, there's a bit of context to understand. Manning is known for gesticulating and yelling at the line of scrimmage. His specialty is lining up, seeing what the defense is giving, then changing around the offense to exploit what he sees. Sometimes it's for show. Sometimes it's not. And trying to decode him as a defensive player is futile.
But we do know a few of the things Manning does at the line of scrimmage. At times, he'll walk up and go through the motions with a show-me hard count (watch him walk up, get under center, and yell "hut-hut." It doesn't really mean anything, other than buying some time to see what the defense is showing, and perhaps get lucky and pull a guy offsides.
He'll then call out the middle linebacker -- you'll hear Manning say XX is MIKE (in Seattle's case the XX is 54) to set the protection. Everything typically pivots off the middle backer, thus the call.
Manning, like other quarterbacks, also uses code words to change the play. Some flip it, some change it completely. An example here is "FAT MAN" from the AFC Championship. Chris B. Brown smartly posited that this was likely a change to a belly run (fat man … belly). These codes change every week.
By the time Manning is done bouncing around the line of scrimmage, waving his arms, and checking the play, time may be running out. Thus you get OMAHA. Simply, Omaha is a hurry up and go call. He'll call out OMAHA (sometimes stretched out as O-MA-HA, and the next sound signals to snap it.
The curveball here is Manning's hard count. Everyone knows Omaha. It's not an uncommon call. But every once in a while, and sometimes more frequently, Manning will yell Omaha, then another word (set, hit, whatever), in an attempt to get the defense to jump. Whether it's triggered by an earlier word or the cadence of Omaha, or something else completely like a call in the huddle, can change every week too."
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/2/2/5371134/peyton-manning-omaha-super-bowl-48
DONAJTHEIII
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Yeah Mannings amazing no doubt
but I love how the colts replaced him with the next best thing.
The Prodigy = Andrew Luck
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but I love how the colts replaced him with the next best thing.
The Prodigy = Andrew Luck
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