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[Lush Lighting]

Welcome Zerocool21,
I was just telling Dr.Young how hard it is to sway people with words because LED technology is so frowned upon. So, my hubby told me to just post photos and let the gardens speak for themselves. But, if you would like some data I can try to please. Anything specific? We have a lot of tabs with data to check out on our website: www.LushLEDLighting.com. I'm on here every night so if I miss you this evening I'll be back on tomorrow night.
Thank you,
Renae

 

[fulltimehuman]

As soon as this swear jar is *%#$ full I'm going LED for sure!! Seriously, I am saving for your LED they look amazing.

 

[Snype]

Looks like a cool light. I've never been a fan of LED's but i'd love to see what this would do in my 5x5' tent with 24" plants at finish. Going to keep an eye out on this one.

 

[Mikenite69]

I have saw some great buds on YouTube grown with lush panels but at the same time the videos sucked. Like the one guy doing a side by side with a hps and lush panel and not putting a wall in his tent to cut it in half to have a led side and hps side that was kinda dissapointing.

Then there is another video with a guys using 4k. With lush panels in the middle of the 4k to me that's like supplemental lighting even with the 1st grow with the guy that didn't split his tent in half.

That's what I mean and also pisses me off about YouTube. Like I wanna see a grow done only by a lush panel. 1 panel not multiple or split between hps or in the middle of a room with 4k around it.

I think I'll just have to watch dr. Young do his grow. Please do not for the sake of lush panels and us growers interested in getting into LEDs supplement or use any other light source Dr. Young. I would love to see what this panel will do all by itself.

That's what I am looking for personally lush. I love your guys design and I love how dedicated and passionate it you guys are about your products. But I wanna just see a single grow with that panel dr young has by itself. That would help me in my process or deciding on going strickly led.

If I had the money to dump to take my chances on a panel I would. But being disabled I am not rich enough to dump the money and not have it produce. I have been interested in your panels since I have been watching farmer johns channel on YouTube but even his grows were supplemented. It's nothing against you guys at. You seem like a great honest company. Just some of the fools that tested the panels really didn't do a great job showing what lush alone by itself can do.

Now about all the data and proprietary stuff that can't be revealed I could careless about. I just wanna make sure that single light will hit good yields and be money well worth spent. I believe in led being the future and it has advanced so fast in the years it's been around so in no way am I doubting it's potential just doubting some of the testers that tested the light.

 

[Dr.Young]

I got you dude, dont worry.

Right now I got some SLHxOger99 Females SOG style under her..a few Sour Bubble Bx3 waiting to sex (Sog style), A Snow Lotus female SOG style, abd some new SWT#4 seedlings going 12/12 from seed SOG style too.
I'm gonna pop more beans every week that I can (need more beans). All SOG style, and gonna keep it going... All different kinda strains so there is no boring aspects... You'll get to see what 1 panel will do, and no boring veg involved with stretchy leafplants. Just pure penetration and bud on a stick.

1 435w Light in the middle of a 9'x9' room... Even with just a 24" box fan, and the door closed/shirt under the door. It wont even get 80 degrees in there... These things basically cool themselves, and produce 0 heat. I am so blown away... The color is so beautiful I catch myself literally sitting in the room for over a hour at a time instead of maybe 5 minute spurts that I used to with my previous HID setups.

 

[Mikenite69]

Now that's something I want to see!! Not being supplemented with hps. Being a small grower myself I don't run 4k I grow for myself. So one good panel is all I need to cover my 4x4. I have other semi ok panels I veg so I am good with that. Just need good solid panel that will kick ass in a 4x4.

 

[zerocool21]

Welcome Zerocool21,
I was just telling Dr.Young how hard it is to sway people with words because LED technology is so frowned upon. So, my hubby told me to just post photos and let the gardens speak for themselves. But, if you would like some data I can try to please. Anything specific? We have a lot of tabs with data to check out on our website: www.LushLEDLighting.com. I'm on here every night so if I miss you this evening I'll be back on tomorrow night.
Thank you,
Renae

its not led being frowned upon its more of misled by some claims.
the data thats important to me is spectrum, an actual par test (example like growers house does diff heights and spreads) and what diodes are used, it used to say cree which was never backed up then removed so its kinda hard to have faith with that alone.(that alone kinda deserves an explanation) if it was a false claim or what?

for me how can i justify paying more $ for a unit that has 3w chips vs my unit that runs 5w that cost less for the same wattage. 1699$ yours vs 1400$ for lumigrow with better specs?

 

[Dr.Young]

Temporary Setup

This is without even trying... Just a 24" room fan on low lol. I can get it to 80*F in the room if I want just for roots sake. Warm is actually good with LEDs. The Fixture itself is actually not even warm to the touch, and blows cool air out sides

Here's one of the SLHxOger99 (its been under CFLs until today). Still has 4-5 weeks to go, and this is most indica pheno. Only reason some hairs are orange is because I been feeling up on here too much trying to judge the smell differences between all the phenos.

 

[Dr.Young]

Trust me... I had all of the SLHxOger99s under just 150w of CFL... Until today... so the jump in light they are getting is HUGE. You'll see a crazy difference... I was basically just flowering them out because I wanted to know what cuts to keep. I'm starting from scratch, and my MAIN focus was getting mothers not bud/yield. Now that I got my light, I can actually start doing my serious runs to pheno hunt. I'm still going to clean up things A LOT. Don't worry this is just a pure improvise setup. Nothing to judge/critique.

 

[Phychotron]

Do you have thread started with this grow yet?

Your light's not gonna raise the temperature of a room that large, basic concept called inertia governing that one, but when you get it in a tent it will start to accumulate some heat. That is where having a large heat sink comes in handy to keep the air temperature down. Also, you'll probably want to run the room a bit warmer, as plants under LED's tend to like it a little warmer.

 

[Dr.Young]

Yeah I try to keep it 80+ for the roots sake, I just took that pic because it was a symmetrical 75*f/75*f/ 45%humidity after the door was open for a few minutes.

I haven't made a thread yet. The real grow has not started.
I was just sexing these under CFLs so cuts could be taken, and turned into bonsai mothers and labeled. So I could be prepared when I got my flowering light. My friend was suppose to give me my 1000w HPS, but constantly lied to me. So I just arranged more CFLs, and let them flower so I could judge what my favorite pheno(s) were.

Thanks to LUSH, I will never need to waste electricity on a oldtimer HPS, or hundreds of watts cooling one. Renae didn't know a thing about me, all it took was 1 message.
She promised me she would help me out, and told me to wait 2 weeks. A week later I had a apology for having to wait, and a tracking number for a light that was already shipped before I even knew I was going to get it or not. With a thank you for being patient... I could not ask for a more hospitable person to come into my life with nothing but love. It was as if I was a family member, because Lush is a family. I am blessed, and grateful to be able to speak to a person this caring. Lush is ahead of the curve, and will be the hottest thing in the very very near future.

My LUSH journal will be here in a couple weeks. I want to do a clean, and professional set up out of respect for Lush.
It will have plenty of beautiful buds in the first post to give things a happy start.

Love ya Lush!

 

[Lush Lighting]

Hi fulltimehuman,
The swear jar... that's got me laughing Don't forget, ICMag users get a 10% discount with code: ICMAG710. Thanks!

 

[Lush Lighting]

Mikenite69, Boy, you are preaching to the choir. We hand out these lights (which aren't cheap) and then the people don't finish. And they don't return the light. We have had some finish and they were awesome but I do know what you mean. Definitely keep an eye on Dr.Young. He seems to be about to embark on the grow you'd be interested in watching.

 

[Lush Lighting]

its not led being frowned upon its more of misled by some claims.
the data thats important to me is spectrum, an actual par test (example like growers house does diff heights and spreads) and what diodes are used, it used to say cree which was never backed up then removed so its kinda hard to have faith with that alone.(that alone kinda deserves an explanation) if it was a false claim or what?

for me how can i justify paying more $ for a unit that has 3w chips vs my unit that runs 5w that cost less for the same wattage. 1699$ yours vs 1400$ for lumigrow with better specs?

I totally agree with your technical breakdown of LED claims. We have to fish through them as well. When someone buys a light bulb, they know that the light bulb's reputation is known as being trustworthy. They go to the store and buy a light bulb. When we want to sell our LED light, we have to first establish our light's reputation as being what we say it is. It's a difficult job. People are usually only convinced by seeing the end product so that's why I continue to post pics like I have been on the other thread I started.
We just got our first Lush retail store and we open in eight days. We were just talking about how now that we have a good place to do it, we want to begin PAR testing videos. Not that we haven't done the tests, just no vids. So, those videos are coming pretty soon. I'll make it a priority now that I know people want those answers.
As for the diodes, we do use mostly Cree, some Bridgelux, some Epistar. But, Cree has recently changed the way the diode plugs into the LED so while we still have inventory that contain the Cree diodes, their diodes won't fit our lights for much longer. That's another reason why we are changing our units. Our next model should have a prototype ready by Christmas and it will blow your socks off. Our engineers and my husband (the owner of Lush) have been pounding out something very unique; and I've had the pleasure of naming it As for the hefty price, one thing to note is that while our regular price for the Dominator 2xxl is $1699, you never have to pay full price for it because we always offer a discount code: ICMAG710 for 10% off, bringing it down to $1529.10. Let me know if I can be more thorough or any other questions I may have missed.

 

[fulltimehuman]

Hi fulltimehuman,
The swear jar... that's got me laughing Don't forget, ICMag users get a 10% discount with code: ICMAG710. Thanks!

I really aim to do a small up front investment, when I can afford to. Ha ha. I can see the electricity use of the light , a/c, will pay a R.O.I. in short order, so its really logical in the long run.
I have been away from being able to grow and am really excited about the advancements that have been made since even 2010 on a few levels. And switching to LED is a major part of the
equation,I'll share.
One is the increase in outstanding genetics to the general public, I mean the strains you see testing here on ICmag are just incredible and really make one proud of the cannabis plant and
how even thru all the BS of politics the real reason she is amazing shines thru and just seems to be magnifying exponentially at the moment!


I also see a huge potential for closet and urban growers.

Heck with a vaportek 4000 it seems you just removed one huge can fan for your scrubber.Theres less noise there...
Then add a Eva-Dry 4000 dessicant dehumidifier. This is only for one light or so mind you, so it should be able to handle the humidity. And you just made a 'way-more-silent' closet or bedroom grow!

Oh the times my innocent projects end up as Dr. Frankensteins monster tearing into walls and ducting into crawlpaces etc. with Tesla coils shooting lightning bolts....wait wrong movie....
anyway Enough of that!!! Its silent led and maybe some trickling water....and a wall fan.

Sounds like a future test grow thread....to be continued.

 

[DrFever]

Only problem i see with LED companies is there false claims and yes even in there charts etc there marketing sucks lots of hog wash really but one good thing the FTC is clamping down on them and its about time really for making false claims actually there is money to be had by sueing LED companies
and if anyone doesn't know who the FTC is its the federal trade commission.


As part of the FTC’s continuing work to stop deceptive advertising, the agency filed a complaint charging that since 2008, Lights of America, Inc. has overstated the light output and life expectancy of its LED bulbs on packages and in brochures. The agency also charges that Lights of America misled consumers about how the brightness of its LED bulbs compares to traditional incandescent lights.
At this year's Strategies in Light conference FTC's Hampton Newsome spoke about the FTC's activities to protect consumers against claims of false advertising. As part of this activity, the FTC will soon introduce lamp labels that emphasize lumens, not watts for all lamp types including LEDs.
The FTC alleges that in many instances, Lights of America’s LED bulbs produced significantly less light, as measured in lumens, than the company claimed in its promotional materials. For example, one bulb was promoted as producing 90 lm, but Lights of America’s own tests showed it produced only 43 lm.
Also, in many cases, Lights of America deceptively compared the brightness of its LED light bulbs with incandescent bulbs, the FTC alleges. For example, the firm claimed that one of its LED lantern bulbs could replace a 40-watt incandescent bulb. However, while the typical 40-watt incandescent bulb produces about 400 lm, the Lights of America LED bulb produced only 74 lm.
Moreover, the FTC complaint states that in many instances, Lights of America’s LED bulbs would not last as long as the company’s promotional materials said they would. In one case, for example, the firm said that one of its LED recessed bulbs would last 30,000 hours. Independent tests, however, showed that the bulb would not last as long as claimed because it lost 80 percent of its light output after only 1,000 hours.

And that is what most LED companies do mis lead people into believing until i see a 600 watt or 1000 watt true power consumption on both ends will i give LED a try but for now I'll stick with my Hids and new upgrades of supplemental plasma lighting its the only way to grow

 

[JointOperation]

yup fuck LEDS.. ive spent over 5 grand on all different LEDS .. and not 1 has produced what it said it could. or what it said it replaced...

until 5watt leds with double lens and in full room systems.. not just a single led I gotta hang.. I want a 8x4 or a 4x4 light. full of LEDS.

I don't want something that's going to let me save power.. I want to use the same amount of power and yield more and have better coverage...

lol.

upgrading to GAVITAS after I saw them blow up my boys garden.. straight dank all the way to the floors. dense flowers all the way down.


also.. this thing on the site about the second lens making them penetrate more.. ? last thing I was reading said that they block up to 20% of the usable light.

 

[Mikenite69]

I joint op I think what you are thinking of when they say lens blocking the light are those company's that use those thick plexi windows over there LEDs.

I think lush's as well as a few other company's design it acts more like a magnifying glass for the led. I mean lush correct me if I am wrong but I think that's how they are supposed to work?

The only company's I have been looking at because they seem to produce results is lumigrow or lush. I am not to sure about some of the other company's like black dog or those magnum lights those units seem really outdated and think u can buy them in Chinese knockoffs for 3x less the price and they even use the 5w diodes probably turned down ofcourse but hey you are saving three times the money blackdog wants so you can buy 2 extra Chinese panels to make up for less intensity and cover more area.

Only better about buying American is they usually offer great warrantys and you aren't waiting for ever to get replacement parts or a hassle from a Chinese guy that barely speaks English. Lol.

I have also been looking at cobs especially after watching I think the memebers name might be beuno time? Maybe who built his own 100w cobs and his grows amazed the hell out of me.

 

[bombadil.360]

Dr. Young,

my advice to you would be to really consider the height of plants at various stages of life and how distance from the light source is a very important aspect in growing with LEDs, as the effective distance from plant to light is very specific.

so having plants in all kinds of life-stages as well as all kinds of plants that grow to different heights, is gonna be difficult to maintain each of them under the light at the proper and specific distance each one needs.

if a little too far, the plants won't grow, and too close they will burn. at least in my current experience with LEDs.

peace

 

[xshifrax]

Lush must be legit if koma trichome is using them!
but pretty expensive for a cree led which made in china