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Root Aphids in 2500 plant LEGAL Washington Grow
- Thread starter GanjaFarmerNW
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Yeah, I think the OP split. Are we that much a bunch of elitists?
You suk, no YOU suk. ugh.
You suk, no YOU suk. ugh.
CactusBlossom
New member
So there are 3 RA treatments allowed in WA state, but none of them are allowed un I502?
That would be negligence of some epic proportions on the part of LCB, no?
That would be negligence of some epic proportions on the part of LCB, no?
SirStynkalot
Member
I thought we were good to use them if they were in the PICOL database? I'm not sure which they are though so i can't go look em up.
I know the decontaminating drench BYF mentioned was approved. Checked that out when he said it.
And of course the guy left lol. He has a warehouse to clean.
I know the decontaminating drench BYF mentioned was approved. Checked that out when he said it.
And of course the guy left lol. He has a warehouse to clean.
Burnside GC
Member
Have you tried acephate? Root aphids are a bitch
http://cru66.cahe.wsu.edu/labels/Labels.php
start there. and then, in the "crop" dropdown, choose "I-502"... and in the "common name" dropdown, "Yes"
If you mess up, hit "new query" or you'll just be meta-querrying your own fuckups.
One of my favorite things about I-502 is all the data.
start there. and then, in the "crop" dropdown, choose "I-502"... and in the "common name" dropdown, "Yes"
If you mess up, hit "new query" or you'll just be meta-querrying your own fuckups.
One of my favorite things about I-502 is all the data.
steadydets
Member
He could have just said,
"Hey guys, can you help me identify this pest in my grow"
Instead of that whole intro.
Its kinda of like "I graduated from Columbia Undergrad, John Hopkins Medical, residency at NY Presbyterian and currently private practice in Manhattan, can you tell me which ace bandage to use on my clients broken arm? "
Little different then just asking for help and posting some pics.
I admit fault, my jab in the beginning didn't help, but he kinda of set himself up. This is the internet after all, public forums being what they are.
Always going to find a little 'hows your mother' online.
Its all in good fun. Anyway, time to let this thread die.
Learning to use the PICOL database is an essential gardening skill. I'm not trying to insult you, but if you are calling yourself a gardener, farmer or grower you should be able to access the data that will keep you from poisoning your consumers.
Have you looked on youtube for video tutorials on how to use the database? Really, I'm not trying to be pedantic, but I go hard on the topics of responsibility and integrity in this business.
Respectful of the assertion that you have spent some time with it: Its actually only two pesticides. Three different product names. They are:
CAPTURE LFR INSECTICIDE [68 BIFENTHRIN 17.15%
LORSBAN-4E INSECTICIDE [30 CHLORPYRIFOS(ORGANOPHOSPHATE) 44.9%
ROOT APHID WHIRLWIND [60 CHLORPYRIFOS (ORGANOPHOSPHATE) 44.9%
Please check out that video and learn how to use the PICOL database. The info above does not include the pages and pages of important information regarding safety and application methods, etc. Things you should know.
http://pep.wsu.edu/faq.html Washington State Pesticide Safety Education
Have you looked on youtube for video tutorials on how to use the database? Really, I'm not trying to be pedantic, but I go hard on the topics of responsibility and integrity in this business.
Respectful of the assertion that you have spent some time with it: Its actually only two pesticides. Three different product names. They are:
CAPTURE LFR INSECTICIDE [68 BIFENTHRIN 17.15%
LORSBAN-4E INSECTICIDE [30 CHLORPYRIFOS(ORGANOPHOSPHATE) 44.9%
ROOT APHID WHIRLWIND [60 CHLORPYRIFOS (ORGANOPHOSPHATE) 44.9%
Please check out that video and learn how to use the PICOL database. The info above does not include the pages and pages of important information regarding safety and application methods, etc. Things you should know.
http://pep.wsu.edu/faq.html Washington State Pesticide Safety Education
Nomaad,
Thanks for naming them. I'm not in WA. I wouldn't dream of using Dursban or Bifenfrin. If that's what they've approved then the PIKOL database won't prevent the poisoning of me or my customers. Hell, they've even pulled Dursban's approval for injection use on foundations for termites. Thanks anyway. -granger
Thanks for naming them. I'm not in WA. I wouldn't dream of using Dursban or Bifenfrin. If that's what they've approved then the PIKOL database won't prevent the poisoning of me or my customers. Hell, they've even pulled Dursban's approval for injection use on foundations for termites. Thanks anyway. -granger
GanjaFarmerNW
New member
Hey guys,
So we have been at work for countless hours in the past week. After doing a thorough inventory/inspection of all the plants we had determined we had populations of root aphids, fungus gnats and red mites, although the mites were only found in 4 plants in quarentine.
Because we have such a large operation and will likely be fighting this problem over time, we have decieded to use different attack plans for different areas and to evaluate the effectiveness of such
group 1: (root drench)
neem oil @ 6ml/gal H2O
group 2: (root drench)
50mL 35% H202 per 25 gal H20 and
60mL 1% coriander oil per 25 gal
group 3: (root drench)
75mL 35% H2O2 per 25 gal
60mL Safer brand Insecticidal Soap
group 4 (quarentined plants with red mites):
neem oil @ 6mL/gal
35% H202 at 50% dilution with water
*this produced a very heavy white vapor being produced fromt he soil, crazy looking. Plants seem to be doing okay. Did not destory redmites however.
*for all three groups we also used insecticidal soaps for foliage spray.
Results after 5 days:
-Levels of all flying insects down immensely throughout facility
-root aphids visible outside of pots down immensely, but can still be found if inspected for long enough.
-Red mites seemed most resistent to this treatment plan, which was suprising due to use of neem oil.
-Plants with neem oil drench have not experienced any negative side effects
-The high concentration H2O2 was neat to watch, although didnt appear to have any more or less effect on the root aphids than did the highly diluted concentrations.
-I stepped in a puddle of the diluted H2O2 solution and didnt think it would be an issue. All the outer most layer of skin has burnt off. It doesnt hurt, but it does tingle.
We plan at next watering to encorporate the use of BotaniGaurd (fungus biocontrol) and drop the use of H2O2. We plan to switch between these two as control methods for the next month, at which point we will swap out BotaniGaurd for Azatrol (or similar product).
For now, it seems like we have our problem under control. While we will likely never be rid of these problems, we have found a control method that uses no harsh chemicals (well H2O2 is harsh, but not in a dangerous for consumer sort of way).
So we have been at work for countless hours in the past week. After doing a thorough inventory/inspection of all the plants we had determined we had populations of root aphids, fungus gnats and red mites, although the mites were only found in 4 plants in quarentine.
Because we have such a large operation and will likely be fighting this problem over time, we have decieded to use different attack plans for different areas and to evaluate the effectiveness of such
group 1: (root drench)
neem oil @ 6ml/gal H2O
group 2: (root drench)
50mL 35% H202 per 25 gal H20 and
60mL 1% coriander oil per 25 gal
group 3: (root drench)
75mL 35% H2O2 per 25 gal
60mL Safer brand Insecticidal Soap
group 4 (quarentined plants with red mites):
neem oil @ 6mL/gal
35% H202 at 50% dilution with water
*this produced a very heavy white vapor being produced fromt he soil, crazy looking. Plants seem to be doing okay. Did not destory redmites however.
*for all three groups we also used insecticidal soaps for foliage spray.
Results after 5 days:
-Levels of all flying insects down immensely throughout facility
-root aphids visible outside of pots down immensely, but can still be found if inspected for long enough.
-Red mites seemed most resistent to this treatment plan, which was suprising due to use of neem oil.
-Plants with neem oil drench have not experienced any negative side effects
-The high concentration H2O2 was neat to watch, although didnt appear to have any more or less effect on the root aphids than did the highly diluted concentrations.
-I stepped in a puddle of the diluted H2O2 solution and didnt think it would be an issue. All the outer most layer of skin has burnt off. It doesnt hurt, but it does tingle.
We plan at next watering to encorporate the use of BotaniGaurd (fungus biocontrol) and drop the use of H2O2. We plan to switch between these two as control methods for the next month, at which point we will swap out BotaniGaurd for Azatrol (or similar product).
For now, it seems like we have our problem under control. While we will likely never be rid of these problems, we have found a control method that uses no harsh chemicals (well H2O2 is harsh, but not in a dangerous for consumer sort of way).
Your control of he problem is only perceived and until the problem is solved the quality of product being produced will never meet the full potential of what it could be, again if you're interested in really solving the problem, I'd be glad to help.
GanjaFarmerNW
New member
Again, I am new to this website.
Is there a way to private message? Or could you possibly contact me via email?
<<<<< NO EMAIL >>>>>
see TOU
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=184917
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