Gorilla Glue #4

[IGROWMYOWN]

only a valuable genetic source because There aren't many down here if they were up north they would get laughed at. where else you going to go clone queen or cloneville? heard they are just as bad. They were kids in that tiny upstairs office building in the valley so I kind of give them a pass on that fake chem-d and other cuts and pests they gave me back in the day but they're still doing it today to newer growers that's an issue. 8 years you would figure they would get mixups and pests under control but no.

 

[sneaky_g]

I just want to say how impressed I am by the quality of the pictures provided on this thread.. True inspiration.. Thank you all =)

 

[KushConnoisseur]

they have always had some type of issues...although i still feel they are a VERY valuable genetic source, I'm fine quarantining and cloning from to get a legit slice of good genes even if it takes a while...$10-$15 for cuts that were $10-$15k a few years prior is all good with me broad mites and all...just gotta work with em to get em back to prime shape.

I have no interests in PO but they have been a valuable asset for me personally, and i support em have been since they were in van nuys next to the porn studio

I have a few of their cuts that are super fire. A couple bad ones out of the bunch I picked up, but most were absolute dank, with no issues.

 

[RB26]

Retro, at what concentration do you add aspirin to your reservoir?

 

[mojave green]

regarding aspirin

regarding aspirin

i have heard one of these per gallan is good.
http://www.amazon.com/Geri-Care-Pha...d=1400376233&sr=1-1&keywords=uncoated+aspirin
i am curious as to application rates as well. i'm gonna start using.

 

[Grizz]

pic of the gg1 at 52 days, flushing the last 3 days and will chop at 63 or 65

 

[RetroGrow]

i have heard one of these per gallan is good.
http://www.amazon.com/Geri-Care-Pha...d=1400376233&sr=1-1&keywords=uncoated+aspirin
i am curious as to application rates as well. i'm gonna start using.

Do not get coated aspirin. Use only uncoated aspirin, which when dissolved in water becomes salicylic acid. You can find uncoated aspirin @ CVS or Walgreens/Walmart, but you have to look, as most aspirin is sold coated. You can also buy salicylic acid as a liquid. It's sold in CVS at the pharmacy counter. Application is 325 Mg Per gallon, or one regular tablet.
About salicylic acid:
"Salicylic acid (SA) is a phenolic phytohormone and is found in plants with roles in plant growth and development, photosynthesis, transpiration, ion uptake and transport. SA also induces specific changes in leaf anatomy and chloroplast structure. SA is involved in endogenous signaling, mediating in plant defense against pathogens. It plays a role in the resistance to pathogens by inducing the production of pathogenesis-related proteins. It is involved in the systemic acquired resistance (SAR) in which a pathogenic attack on one part of the plant induces resistance in other parts. The signal can also move to nearby plants by salicylic acid being converted to the volatile ester, methyl salicylate."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salicylic_acid
Posted this before, but worth repeating for those who hadn't seen it or don't understand how aspirin works on plants.

 

[MrTea]

Could just get aloe vera juice....it's natural,more effective and you won't be giving your money to pharmaceutical companies.

 

[budelight]

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Hey josey,

In your words, what makes gg1 special and/or different from her sister

Could just get aloe vera juice....it's natural,more effective and you won't be giving your money to pharmaceutical companies.

Mrtea, no disrespect.... Can you post a link or share info on how aloe Vera juice is "more effective"

Cheers,
BeL

 

[RetroGrow]

Retro, at what concentration do you add aspirin to your reservoir?

325 Mg per gallon, UNCOATED aspirin, or salicylic acid liquid, available @ CVS. Google "uncoated aspirin", and you will find it for sale @ CVS, Walmart, Walgreens, etc.
I always keep it in my rez as a preventative, and it's also a growth hormone, immune system booster, and SAR signaling to warn nearby plants of impending attack.
I NEVER grow without aspirin. Can be used in higher dosages on plants that are affected with some pathogen. I have used as much as 3 tablets per gallon when I had broad mites, with no ill effects. It knocks back the broad mite toxins, or any other virus/disease attacking the plant.

 

[MrTea]

Mrtea, no disrespect.... Can you post a link or share info on how aloe Vera juice is "more effective"

Cheers,
BeL

Apsirin is synthesized salicylic acid, aloe vera is natural salicylic acid. Asprin was originally made from extracting the compound from the willow tree, but is now chemically synthesized. The only difference is that aspirin is salicylic acid....that's it. Aloe is that and SO much more.

As an analogy:

Artificial sweetener vs. Natural sweetener.

 

[StayFoolish22]

Would love to see how she does vertically and 100% TLO soil. Hopefully gg4 will end up in mendo, or if it is I will find it. :-/ been looking around for awhile now.

 

[MrTea]

Would love to see how she does vertically and 100% TLO soil. Hopefully gg4 will end up in mendo, or if it is I will find it. :-/ been looking around for awhile now.

My buddy and I do "100% TLO"...no guanos, salts, or any quasi hydro-organic bottled nutes. Lots of water, bugs, quality soil amendments, fpe's, lacto, etce etc. If you are referring to the mendo purps we have lots of mendo genetics. Have some seed testers from a buddy that is a Purps X (Blackwater X (blue widow x afgooey)). If it's a male I will for sure bust out some pollen on the glue when the time comes.

 

[RetroGrow]

Could just get aloe vera juice....it's natural,more effective and you won't be giving your money to pharmaceutical companies.

Aloe has salicylic acid in it, which is key. Salicylic acid is natural. It is in the plants immune system to start, so adding some gives the natural immune response a boost. When you add acetyl-salicylic acid (aspirin) to water, you get salicylic acid. Aloe also has numerous other substances in it, including vitamins & minerals, and hormones. I've no doubt it's beneficial, but where you get the assertion that it is "more effective" is a mystery. I haven't seen any research testing/proving this. Aloe has other benefits, but I don't believe it has a heavy concentration of SA, and I have never used it, so wouldn't know how to dose it to get the desired result, whereas, with aspirin, I know how to use it, and know it works to prevent "duds".

 

[MrTea]

I don't dose aloe, I don't think I've ever overdosed my plants on aloe. they recommend 2 tbps per gal, I would estimate I use 1/2 cup-1 cup. I think of it like azamax, which is derived from neem meal. 1 expensive product contains 1 compound from 1 input. Why pay so much for 1 compound when you could get the whole spectrum for free?

 

[Shcrews]

GG4 1 week into flowering, 5 gallon smartpots coco and house&garden aqua flakes, pretty simple.

 

[whadeezlrg]

only a valuable genetic source because There aren't many down here if they were up north they would get laughed at. where else you going to go clone queen or cloneville? heard they are just as bad. They were kids in that tiny upstairs office building in the valley so I kind of give them a pass on that fake chem-d and other cuts and pests they gave me back in the day but they're still doing it today to newer growers that's an issue. 8 years you would figure they would get mixups and pests under control but no.

the fake chem d being swerves? that was the absolute most bullshit garbage hemp plant i ever grew, i can agree if thats the one...also i got a fake chem d from em the "ogorganic" cut...which i actually just got clarified to be banana og which was fire but not chem d....ive definitely had more than a few mixups which is understandable to a certain degree...I rarely bring new genetics in these days so I'm not sure how they currently operate but last time i was there there were a bunch of new kids with Z kinda workin the back end more so it seemed, i only got cuts from them when Z was around and he always took good care of me, to the point of giving me cuts from other peoples orders(i know i know, but when you need em you really need em)

I can agree that they should have their pest game op point by this point but the reality of it for me at least is that all of us get bugs occasionally, even when were not bringing in new genetics on a regular basis

and fwiw i have no experience with clone collectives up north, and if po is that much of a joke in comparison than I'm envious.

I have a few of their cuts that are super fire. A couple bad ones out of the bunch I picked up, but most were absolute dank, with no issues.

seems to be the consensus

 

[whadeezlrg]

GG4 1 week into flowering, 5 gallon smartpots coco and house&garden aqua flakes, pretty simple.

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gavita? looks like it's gonna get stuffed!

 

[DIDM]

got plant AIDS from PO

funny shit is, this guy I know just sent someone back there to get more plant aids for his garden, plus some clones

silly

PO is a breeding ground for Fusarium and Verticillium, and GAWD knows what else

 

[Jbomber79]

What is plant aids?