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[high life 45]

Found this mutant leaf today. When I was cleaning out the shorty side.

The sour D is looking FIRE!

I am finding nugs in the craziest places, recieving very little light and sometimes no direct light at all. Most of them are pretty chunk as well.

The shorty side just didnt stretch like this room. Its growing little rock hard nugs kinda like you see on GSC but with much tighter internode spacing. This cutting has never grown like this before. It has a lot of larf and I feel like I was distracted by the other rooms growth since its a bit ahead. Along with all the other things I have going on I did not give this room my full attention.


I am not sure what I will do with the cages in the future. I might put them in the top bucket. That would make them taller since they were sitting on the floor. I might end up growing some Platinum Kush next round, I need some indica to put me to sleep at night.

Im thinking about changing one room into a perpetual. Nice steady meds. With plants being in various stages of flowering it will be a great time for me to point out various stages of growth to grobros. When to train, what to trim, how to bend, etc. The more they know and understand the less I have to teach and explain.

Anyone ran rare dankness genetics before? Been looking at GTH. Now that I think about it pretty sure ashes ran it.

 

[hotboxes]

Looks great HL

 

[high life 45]

Took the shrimpy plant down today. I moved the plant in from the end to get better coverage.
It was a two person job. I popped the staples out of the chicken wire and had bro hold it over the plant as I held the cage and the ppk and slid them over.

I got to take a better look at the plants and snapped some pics before we moved it.
The plants also got tied up a bunch after I took the pics....

Some more of this over in IR

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

OMG that photo just says yes to me, its perfect

 

[ashesashes]

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[ironCELL]

DEL

 

[hotboxes]

HL is in a system known as a PPK (passive plant killer)

 

[high life 45]

HL I really enjoy these thread Man. Much respect. Vertical and DWC is the way to grow

Hey thanks for stopping by. No chillers or air pumps in this systemand its closer to ebb and flow than dwc in terms of mechanics. It sure does grow like dwc though.

 

[high life 45]

I think I have broad mites at one of my gardens...if so, thats the last thing to check off my list.. I have had thrips, gnats, spider mites, pm, root aphids, fusarium, bortytis, root rot, the whole shebang, except broad mites...meh, just gotta go read a bunch of threads and see what people are doing BESIDES dumping shitloads of poison on their plants. If all else fails, poison it is....

Its really small and localized, im hoping predators will take care of it.

 

[Mister_D]

I think I have broad mites at one of my gardens...if so, thats the last thing to check off my list.. I have had thrips, gnats, spider mites, pm, root aphids, fusarium, bortytis, root rot, the whole shebang, except broad mites...meh, just gotta go read a bunch of threads and see what people are doing BESIDES dumping shitloads of poison on their plants. If all else fails, poison it is....

Its really small and localized, im hoping predators will take care of it.

Don't quote me on this, but I think it was pureknowledge that mentioned using lady bugs to combat broad mites. He uses them as a preventative for all bugs, but I think I remember reading he used them specificly for broad mites at one point. Might try and shoot him a pm about it.

 

[bobblehead]

I think I have broad mites at one of my gardens...if so, thats the last thing to check off my list.. I have had thrips, gnats, spider mites, pm, root aphids, fusarium, bortytis, root rot, the whole shebang, except broad mites...meh, just gotta go read a bunch of threads and see what people are doing BESIDES dumping shitloads of poison on their plants. If all else fails, poison it is....

Its really small and localized, im hoping predators will take care of it.

you have contracted the worst bug ever...

I used Forbid 4F and Malathion in rotation, 1x a week foliar applications with my atomizer for a month.

I've read in the broad mite thread that you can cook them. They're very sensitive to heat. If you can get your room up to 120F, that should cook the mites, and leave your plants alive.

I would try the heat method... and then go nuclear... But get on it fast, cause broad mites have a very short life cycle and spread like wild fire. Be careful not to transfer them between locations...

 

[BldSwtTrs]

What Bobble said. Probably the worst bug you can get really...

I had them and chose to shut down and start over before fighting them bc I had them in my mother room.

I know two people who have beat them though and one is a guy who knows his shit.

He said if you want to beat them without fucking around just use three different chems and rotate them through twice. It takes 6 weeks. So...

Week 1: Chem 1
Week 2: Chem 2
Week 3: Chem 3
Week 4: Chem 1
Week 5: Chem 2
Week 6: Chem 3

He used Forbid 4f, Magus, and Avid.

Lots of science on the internet about how to battle these fuckers.

As bobble said heat is generally recommended.

I personally used predator mites to get me through a flower cycle and they did quite well. They are relatively cheap and easy to get. I think I used something californikus.

Anyway man really sorry to hear that. Hope you DON'T have them and if you do don't fuck around. Order the chems today and get started.

 

[BldSwtTrs]

And I just re-read your post and am wondering if you are seeing them with the naked eye?

Broad Mites are microscopic and you cannot see them without a good 100x lens.

If you are seeing them with the naked eye then you do NOT have broad mites.

 

[high life 45]

I cant see them, it looks like tmv and is localized to a certain area..
I will take pics.

I am gonna try heat, and predators and see what happens..

These guys are worse than root aphids?

I wonder if they came in on a flying bug.

Thanks for all the responses..

 

[hotboxes]

I have used lady bugs with good success on spider mites. I never have had anything other than them though "knock on wood" It was from taking clones from a plant outside. I used this stuff called Captain Jacks Deadbug with spinosad, its organic and works great on a variety of pests. I have used it up to 5 weeks of flower with no toxic results. its made from fermented earth found under an old rum factory. It only took 2 applications 7 days apart. I got the lady bugs to help but the dead bug took out the larva and the adults. You can buy the concentrate and mix your own with water or mixed already. Also it won't kill predator insects like lady bugs and such that help combat harmful pests.

 

[high life 45]

First two are broad mites???

third one is healthy growth for comparison

 

[whatthe215]

i've been freaking out about broad mites since some recent additions to my genetics have been known to carry them and be sensitive to their toxin.

broad mites put a toxin in the plant when they bite, so start using asprin @ 325mg/gal to help reduce the effects of it.

and the heat treatment thing... i still haven't done it since i don't have enough space heaters but it seems to be the best option. 120f for an hour and every mite is dead. nice because it'll take care of the plants and any hiding away in corners.

and the rotating of miticides. but that's hard if you have stuff in flower... keeping everything in veg for 6-7 weeks while spraying just isn't an option for me.

plus they're probably impossible to completely rid a location of... so my plan is to keep up with heat treatments until week 4 of flower and use the poisons on anything vegging.

and be careful with your donors of clones. even after the mites are completely dead and gone from the plants/grow area... their toxin can continue to affect mothers and clones for a few generations.

hope i don't seem like i'm fear mongering, just tryna sum up my reading on all this the past few days.

 

[bobblehead]

plus they're probably impossible to completely rid a location of... so my plan is to keep up with heat treatments until week 4 of flower and use the poisons on anything vegging.

I completely rid my house of broad mites, and I had them in at least 3 rooms. All it takes is following the protocol I outlined.

HL45- it looks like mite damage to me. Are they eating the pistils? Broad mites will eat the pistils even off of preflowers...

Good luck!

 

[delta9nxs]

i've never had broad mites but i've had the two spotted ones and the reddish orange ones. you can definitely see both of these with the naked eye if you hold a leaf up to the light and get it hot. they start running like hell on the bottom side of the leaf. you might consider a good neem treatment if they are not too far along in flower. it doesn't kill them all but gets most. i think the real value of the neem treatment is that it makes them travel around the room. making them more vulnerable to other treatments. they will not attack a neemed plant.

with the two species above i was able to get rid of them with a single heavy neem spray and and series of 6 pyrethrum bombs set off every fourth day. i think this interrupts their life cycle.

before i used this routine i had released 1000 ladybugs and 1000 predator mites into the flowering room.

the ladybugs do not specifically target mites and made a huge mess. i was picking ladybug parts out of buds for months.

i think maybe they are more suited for large greenhouses and a vegetative crop as a preventative not a cure.

oh yeah, in addition to the neem and bombs i practiced ruthless suppression and removal.

i yanked any affected leaf as soon as i saw it and placed it in a plastic bag as i worked, sprayed raid in the bag and tied a knot in it.

live through that, you little bastards!

 

[frankenstein2]

I like burning them with a lit cigarette, then i say "there how do you like me now".