Wholesale pot prices plummet. Now there starting to get better

[Z-ro]

Just know that anyone that buys a lb at 22 is sending it out for 44 and doubling their stack on your hard work without doing shit but throwin it in a box. Actually, with outs, you can get em here for 12-15, take them home where a quarter lb goes for the same price and quadruple, while you the grower is stuck making a couple hundred bucks a lb profit max. Think about that next time you are asked to take a low donation. Dont jew out, give the growers what they deserve.

 

[weeddaddy50]

Hey Z...you got a point there

Hey Z...you got a point there

The lowballing is just brutal.......really can't see how people can make it on those tickets and pay for the power, labor, and all expenses......pretty much....I have just cut out the brokers now....I go straight to the breakdown guys...they are happy with their tickets...and they get the quality, consistency, and custom orders as they need them......fuk those lowballers....they always have some bullshit story...never have the bread...always want a front.....I don't even answer their calls anymore.......

I see it getting worse for brokers.....until they treat growers with respect.....I got no use for them......as I am not going to grow AAA shit and let them make the dough....It all marketing...and I can do that better than them.

Just know that anyone that buys a lb at 22 is sending it out for 44 and doubling their stack on your hard work without doing shit but throwin it in a box. Actually, with outs, you can get em here for 12-15, take them home where a quarter lb goes for the same price and quadruple, while you the grower is stuck making a couple hundred bucks a lb profit max. Think about that next time you are asked to take a low donation. Dont jew out, give the growers what they deserve.

 

[mowood3479]

where in the world does a qp of od go for 12-15 wholesale? not anywhere i know of.. at least not anymore.. a few years ago sure..
but on the east coast good cali od aint fetching what it used to

 

[OKD]

In god we trust, all others Caaaaaaaaash only! Cant remember the author

Dead Kennedy's?

 

[megayields]

where in the world does a qp of od go for 12-15 wholesale? not anywhere i know of.. at least not anymore.. a few years ago sure..
but on the east coast good cali od aint fetching what it used to

well some peeps are STILL getting 4-5 K PER PACK in NYC....now this is straight to breakdown guys

 

[Z-ro]

where in the world does a qp of od go for 12-15 wholesale? not anywhere i know of.. at least not anymore.. a few years ago sure..
but on the east coast good cali od aint fetching what it used to

In most non med states is where. Hell bro, half the people that live in Cali and buy from dispensaries dont know the difference between ins and outs. If I had taken my og or gsc back home I could easily rock them for 4, easily, and in large packs. Every time I show someone my outs from back home they are like 'wait what, that was outs, that looks nothing like what we get around here.'

I was actually just up in tahoe with a huge crew of friends from back home and when we pulled out the og we brought for them every one of their jaws dropped, 'wow you guys herb is just on another level out here' and this is coming from a guy that used to get legendary quality back in austin. To a norcal grower it was just another bag of weed that would get hella lowballed.

I wasnt saying that this is whats happening everyday but that theoretically you could quadruple youre stack if you had the time to break it down into 1/4ths(not wholesaling).


The main point is, there is no justification for prices going lower. End users are paying the same and costs are rising, demand is insatiable, so next time someone tries to tell you they wont pay more than 'x' ask them how they justify those numbers or if its just flat out greed plain and simple. Then ask the grower to justify his price and he will throw you a text book of legitimate answers.

 

[mapinguari]

The main point is, there is no justification for prices going lower. End users are paying the same and costs are rising, demand is insatiable, so next time someone tries to tell you they wont pay more than 'x' ask them how they justify those numbers or if its just flat out greed plain and simple. Then ask the grower to justify his price and he will throw you a text book of legitimate answers.

I've seen some of these dispensaries tell growers they can't help lowballing them because "it's the market."

Then when "patients" come in and complain about high prices for mediocre herb, they tell them they can't help the high retail because "it's the growers" who set the prices!

 

[vapedg13]

its only cost $2-3 a g to produce the kind.... we sell it for 10 a g ...plenty of profit... unless your greedy

 

[localhero]

Set up your own grower direct delivery service and smoke em all. thank you wee maps that was my solution back in the day before the shit hit the fan. fuck getting lowballed by d's with 70 dollar 8ths on the board. 40$ 8ths delivered, no charge (5 dollar per delivery to your driver plus tips) = 4500 pies

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Or just open your own small dispensary and sell your own herb in eighths and under cut the competition. You can grow the top quality too and shut out those econo kush guys, and help out the patient. they can get AAA for 35 an 1/8th. that is still ten a gram which is a good deal for grower and patient.

Make oils with your garbage and donate it to actual cancer patients. Keep them from dying. Actually do your job as a med card holder and caregiver. Not you so to speak. I am just saying weed retailers and growers in general. Growers are way better about helping patient on average too in my opinion. I make it a point to use my trim to make oils and do good with the oils, and I know many other growers that do too. It is the most direct way to help a person with cancer.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Dont jew out, give the growers what they deserve.

WTF? As the official ICMAG JEW I am super super not offended by this.





Bwahahhaha thought I was gonna be all pissed right. nope. hahaha. carry on.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

I've seen some of these dispensaries tell growers they can't help lowballing them because "it's the market."

Then when "patients" come in and complain about high prices for mediocre herb, they tell them they can't help the high retail because "it's the growers" who set the prices!

In most non med states is where. Hell bro, half the people that live in Cali and buy from dispensaries dont know the difference between ins and outs. If I had taken my og or gsc back home I could easily rock them for 4, easily, and in large packs. Every time I show someone my outs from back home they are like 'wait what, that was outs, that looks nothing like what we get around here.'

I was actually just up in tahoe with a huge crew of friends from back home and when we pulled out the og we brought for them every one of their jaws dropped, 'wow you guys herb is just on another level out here' and this is coming from a guy that used to get legendary quality back in austin. To a norcal grower it was just another bag of weed that would get hella lowballed.

I wasnt saying that this is whats happening everyday but that theoretically you could quadruple youre stack if you had the time to break it down into 1/4ths(not wholesaling).


The main point is, there is no justification for prices going lower. End users are paying the same and costs are rising, demand is insatiable, so next time someone tries to tell you they wont pay more than 'x' ask them how they justify those numbers or if its just flat out greed plain and simple. Then ask the grower to justify his price and he will throw you a text book of legitimate answers.

This makes me think there should be a growers union. get all the growers together and say we wont sell to dispensaries for those low ball prices if they are gonna just rape all the patients and basically do nothing.

 

[weeddaddy50]

right on

right on

ya that

Or just open your own small dispensary and sell your own herb in eighths and under cut the competition. You can grow the top quality too and shut out those econo kush guys, and help out the patient. they can get AAA for 35 an 1/8th. that is still ten a gram which is a good deal for grower and patient.

Make oils with your garbage and donate it to actual cancer patients. Keep them from dying. Actually do your job as a med card holder and caregiver. Not you so to speak. I am just saying weed retailers and growers in general. Growers are way better about helping patient on average too in my opinion. I make it a point to use my trim to make oils and do good with the oils, and I know many other growers that do too. It is the most direct way to help a person with cancer.

 

[Capital G]

Qps go for 1000-1200 all day on the east coast

 

[anditwasfun]

Just know that anyone that buys a lb at 22 is sending it out for 44 and doubling their stack on your hard work without doing shit but throwin it in a box. Actually, with outs, you can get em here for 12-15, take them home where a quarter lb goes for the same price and quadruple, while you the grower is stuck making a couple hundred bucks a lb profit max. Think about that next time you are asked to take a low donation. Dont jew out, give the growers what they deserve.

If people are paying 44 then they live somewhere with really high cost of living, or really good law enforcement. Most places I lived on the east coast now are flooded with good numbers...seems like most of my HS buddies are getting em for under 3500 for stuff even I would smoke on, and I wouldn't dare say i'm the pickiest guy here, but i'm at least halfway there. I heard of HS kids gettin em for 24 per, sure it's OD but if it smells good, good trim, good flush, and trichey then who cares? Sure, you can find who they sell it to and someone down the line is paying more, but the more people pay, the dumber they are...the less they pay, the more you gotta look over your shoulder though.


With more people catching on to old tricks, and more and more websites/phone apps/etc. connecting people, more TV shows covering it, shit's getting cheaper....

Kids I know in bumfuck GA who used to pay $25/g are now gettin $80-100 for a Q...when they get their paychecks they splurge and drive out and get some BHO for $50/g...

 

[stasis]

Another ICMAG Jew says :

Anti-Semitism comments are not cool. I have heard it all, and I know it is not really accurate. My Tightest friends are Scottish-American and Hillbilly-'Merkin. Whereas I am quite generous. It's everywhere, everyone and no one. But not gonna encourage it.

EDIT: Not offended. Says nothing about me.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^I refuse to give it power by being offended. It's just words. I feel ya though.

 

[localhero]

This makes me think there should be a growers union. get all the growers together and say we wont sell to dispensaries for those low ball prices if they are gonna just rape all the patients and basically do nothing.

cant have a union, that would run into rico issues. what we can do is have a lobby that fights for us. we would need a lawyer to arrange and organize everything so that lawyer-client confidentiality rules would apply and protect privacy. through that we could act union-ish, the lobby group could set up a private invite only forum where contributors to this lobby could vote via polls. contributions to this lobby would go towards litigation to protect growers interests, expand rights, lobby politicians, and make political campaign contributions.

plenty of patient end advocate groups and organizations, none of which work specifically for legal growers. for the contribution of the cost of a single ballast each, think of the power we would have.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

It would have to be anonymous. A real name of a grower is not needed. The alias you use is backed by your product. The number of people with quality product banding together is what counts not the names of them.

I suggest growers start to form small local Anonymous Medical Cannabis Growers unions in there towns and counties. Stay small. That way you are off the feds radar, off the mobs radar, and not controlling people 1000 miles away from you. What works in one towns micro economy might not work in another.

If the dispensaries are going to charge as much as they they are going to pay the people doing all the work, and also risking federal prison in many cases.

The other alternative is mostly the same, and I like it more. It is less greedy, more friendly to small business. Th plan is start a grower's union approval system for dispensaries, where dispensaries that offer fair prices to regular patients, and donate oils to cancer patients, get the endorsement of individual growers. Then the Union can bring by an official sticker for the window says for example 468 Santa Cruz California growers approve of this dispensary, and that is why they agree to supply them. If the dispensary starts charging more we yank our product and endorsement leaving them to fill the void with sub par shit that can not compete with or other union endorsed shops.

This would work. people like lower prices, and growers like getting paid more. nobody likes greedy middle men.

This is how you use capitalism to your advantage when you are the little guy.

 

[localhero]

I feel ya with the local 409 tags to show support for grower friendly shops. im thinking along the lines of a state wide lobby group. union to me screams rico. the names of donators are anon and only dealt with through a lawyer. im just thinking of a way for growers to commit our money to a cause that is in line with our needs. once your donation to the lobby group was paid, you would be given access to a private forum with subforums for various grower related topics. that would allow the lobby group to better service its special interest group (us) through a poling system.

a union takes votes by its members. unionizing is bad because it insinuates organization of individuals and in this case could be misinterpreted as an organized crime syndicate by the feds. however, a lobbying group has every right to poll its constituents and take action accordingly. think aarp vs. local carpenters union 409. aarp fights for seniors rights, writes legislation and pushes it into the hands of "sympathetic" politicians who value the senior vote.

an example of how this would benefit us as to the topic of rates per pie with the forum poling system would go something like: do you think outs should go for less than 1600? if majority of votes indicated that, no outs should never go for less than 1600, well up to you what you do with your outs, but the insinuation would be that you shouldnt give outs for less than 1600.

here is another example of how a donators invite only forum hosted by a lobby group using poling could work:

the california growers lobby has drafted three different legalization petitions, A B and C out of these three, which do you like most?

majority of donators choose the language of petition B, well that would be the petition that the california growers lobby decides to fund and put on the ballot.

to keep the focus of the lobby group closest to its donators local interests, funding would be dividing into two areas: 30% of all donations go towards state issues, the rest is divided up by percentage of donation by county. lets say humboldt county donations total 100 bucks. 30 dollars go towards state issues and 70 to local humboldt causes based on poling in the humboldt county subforum. that way, someone in LA wont be like hey fuck them they only support northern growers interests. your county donations go towards making change in your county and the greater good of the state as a whole.

I have a bit of a political background and ive seen first hand how democracy in america services special interests over individuals. the technical term for it is called pluralism. anyways politics follows money, laws arent written by politicians, they are written by teams of lawyers working for special interest groups who then hand them over to a politician to introduce as law. and thats how we have to approach our modern democracy if we want to ever have any control of our destiny.