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Jbonez

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PK's is the frostiest shit Ive ever grown, shes hard to photograph with all the resin glands reflecting the light lol.. Shes also the most intense smoke Ive ever had...

Shes got about 20 more days to go, and she will be black by then... Tastes like straight merlot...

oops, almost forgot, take her 70 days for perfection...
 

BldSwtTrs

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PK's is the frostiest shit Ive ever grown, shes hard to photograph with all the resin glands reflecting the light lol.. Shes also the most intense smoke Ive ever had...

Shes got about 20 more days to go, and she will be black by then... Tastes like straight merlot...

oops, almost forgot, take her 70 days for perfection...

Second all of that :smokey:
 

PeopleWish

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Had a great reply, server or some shit got fucked up this morning..

Anywho, we are on the same page lol...

Unspoken gave me an Idea... Perhaps a mix of sort to aerate the coco gradually on the way down? Starting with straight coco at the top tapering down to a more aerated mix?

hmm....

Bottom inch or two of pots should be 100% aeration vs. pure coco. For example, 2 inches of hydroton, or something cheaper.

I noticed that when using mylar grow bags and 80% coco to a 20% aerated base;
1. Run off and saturation is more even and efficient.
2. Thick bottom roots are receiving much more gas exchange.
3. Overall the rhizosphere as a whole appears healthier at transplant
4. Roots become glowing white, thick and develop this grippy almost "squeaky clean feeling".

If any of these observations hold any truth then I would predict that any and all of these factors would correlate with frostier/heavier yields, in the context of partially aerating a rhizosphere and growing good herb, perhaps tomatoes too.
 

Jbonez

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RoDawg (Jbonez cut)

This cut is a beast.. I smoked her the other day and besides the fact that she tastes like apollo13 with the absolute slap you in the back of the throat smoke from the chemD, she is shaping up to be the dominant force in my garden..

Amazing structure, smells like a lavenderish chemdog with so many other smells to try and comprehend.. Kinda similar to the blue dream, but a different taste..

Here she is about 50 days or so in bloom... She is a vert growers dream come true, very few leaves, all nug..
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Jbonez

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Should be able to see it now, was in a private album..

Pdubs, I got the numbers on the Maxigro, prob is, at 6g per gallon, I need to supplement mono potassium phosphate but that brings my K past 200ppm for bloom just to get my P on point, but to also add Si I have to use agsil which adds another 70ppm of K...

Shit is pissing me off, been crunching numbers for 3 hours trying to find something that will best H3ads formula while remaining close to the 5/5/7/5 .5...


So Far with 5g Maxigro .5 Mg sulfate and .5 mono potassium phosphate and no Calmag this is where Im at..

Jbonez / H3ad
N No3 112ppm / 91ppm
N Nh4 20ppm / 6ppm
Total N 132ppm /97ppm
P 47ppm /60ppm
K 190 ppm /107ppm
Mg 160ppm / 305ppm
Ca 66ppm /97ppm

My formula addresses the issues I was having predominantly, N and K.. Ca is low tho...

I could further eliminate any micro def's with Calmag I suppose.. What are your thoughts?

Also was thinking I could do like a 3/3g split with Maxigro and bloom, but im tired and dont feel like calculating more shit..
 

Ichabod Crane

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I don't know what calmag you are using, but if it is the calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate, phosphoric acid is used to make those carbonates soluble. I don't know the numbers for the acid though.
 
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DaveTheNewbie

I don't know anything about the chems, but have you looked at GH flora duo part A?
its 5-0-6. Would seem a good starting point
 

Jbonez

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I don't know anything about the chems, but have you looked at GH flora duo part A?
its 5-0-6. Would seem a good starting point

No, but that does make sense as a starting point, I can supplement P alone..

I was actually thinking of just buy everything in raw form, measuring per ppm and combining for a 1part fert...

That is proving to be a bit more tedious than I like lol..

Thx for the recommendation, Ill keep plugging away..


The secret is in the numbers, Im playing with a veritable rubix cube of available nutrients to find a formula that fits.. And Im not that motivated to do it atm. lol
 

PeopleWish

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No, but that does make sense as a starting point, I can supplement P alone..

I was actually thinking of just buy everything in raw form, measuring per ppm and combining for a 1part fert...

That is proving to be a bit more tedious than I like lol..

Thx for the recommendation, Ill keep plugging away..


The secret is in the numbers, Im playing with a veritable rubix cube of available nutrients to find a formula that fits.. And Im not that motivated to do it atm. lol

ATM I am finding the best resin production to yield ratio when using 5/5/7/5/.5 and 6/9 at the proper times during the plants life cycle.

For my nutrient loving Durban poison my feed goes a little something like this:

Lets refer to 5/5/7/5/.5 as Spur and 6/9 as H3ad on a 60 day strain

Veg: different dilutions of h3ad n reading concentrations as plant grows
Last 1/4 days of veg time before flip: full spur
Stretch: 100% spur (sometimes 110-125% spur), bloom boosts f you wish at the end of spur
Flower building weeks: same as stretch
Swelling resin maturation: revert to h3ad (abundance of available N is no longer needed)
A couple weeks to go: 9ml bloom
Couple days plain water if you choose.
 

Jbonez

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ATM I am finding the best resin production to yield ratio when using 5/5/7/5/.5 and 6/9 at the proper times during the plants life cycle.

For my nutrient loving Durban poison my feed goes a little something like this:

Lets refer to 5/5/7/5/.5 as Spur and 6/9 as H3ad on a 60 day strain

Veg: different dilutions of 6/9 n reading concentrations as plant grows
Last 1/4 days of veg time before flip: full spur
Stretch: 100% spur (sometimes 110-125% spur), bloom boosts f you wish at the end of spur
Flower building weeks: same as stretch
Swelling resin maturation: revert to h3ad (abundance of available N is no longer needed)
A couple weeks to go: 9ml bloom
Couple days plain water if you choose.

Lemme know if you need me to do any footwork on the nutes or math.. Id like to come up with something other than mixing a ton of shit... lol

So far my plants are responding the only way they could have, perfectly.. I just am starting to understand the nutes are just water, soluble mineral salts and food coloring.. I could make enough nutes for 5 years bro for nothing!!

Ill keep plugging away, I cant find the weight in fluid oz's of Calmag but I think I found another way to do this with a premixed micro mix and my own proportions of the rest...

You know Calmags ppm's at 5ml?
 

BldSwtTrs

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Bro I know you will never do it because you like to make/dial your own shit, but somebody please please please try the veg + bloom 1 part powder.

I want somebody I trust to try this shit because it looks legit.

There is a huge thread over on the farm about it. People seem to be having great results with it.
 

PeopleWish

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If you dont want to mix in the frequency for which you do now perhaps try this :).

Get a 50g drum.
50gals of distilled water, or 0 ppms~.
Buy all necessary salts from https://customhydronutrients.com, ebay, peters and your local pharmacy (another discussion).
Have appropriate acids and bases on hand.
Mix your salts properly...and

BOOM you got 50 gals of a perfectly balanced 1 part. please remember to amend calcium with your media.
 

Jbonez

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Bro I know you will never do it because you like to make/dial your own shit, but somebody please please please try the veg + bloom 1 part powder.

I want somebody I trust to try this shit because it looks legit.

There is a huge thread over on the farm about it. People seem to be having great results with it.

Ill check the values for it, shits retarded expensive I heard, I could be and probably am wrong..

You buy it bro, Ill run it... lol You seem to be liking your duo shit huh?
 

BldSwtTrs

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Yea for some reason I have heard it was cheap, but I think it depends on your setup and how you run. I do know though that if you send them a water sample of yours they will make you special batches at no additional charge.

Lovin the duo, but honestly its because its simple, cheap, and I am having good results.

I WILL be trying Heavy16 and aptus soon though so maybe I will be singing a new tune.

If you don't try Veg + Bloom and end up making your own shit like Jack's mix or something PLEASE keep us updated. Have been debating whether or not to do this shit forever.
 
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DHF

Buncha my old head Hippie ass mad scientist growbro`s order their dry nutes from "Hydro-Gardens.Com" based outta Colorado , and supply most all outdoor Corporate greenhouse hydroponic setups including Walt Disney World......

Just another option if other shit`s too expensive cuz yas can get assloads of their shit on the cheap , butchas gotta by bulk quantity so that might be the deciding factor on getting it or buyin less more expensive nutes.......anyways.......

Just tryin ta help.......Freds......:ying:.....
 
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