LIBERATE YOURSELVES FROM BOTTLED NUTES -- SAVE $$ AND GROW BETTER ORGANIC PLANTS

[GranDadPurpler]

Could you take a look at my post. Nd lmk a good mix or if im goin in the right direction, i just posted it

 

[elaromo]

sheep, you are all sheep

sheep, you are all sheep

organics is -- well, misunderstood at best. You all should go and sign up for classes at your local college. Organics doesn't mean healthier or better. It means derived from organic sources. Those sources can be contaminated with all kinds of bad things; mercury, lead, arsenic and so on. Don't be fooled by clever advertisements and ill educated minds. The only reason organics might be better is from an energy consumption point-of-view. Most chemicals fertilizers are much cleaner and healthier for your crops. It just takes more energy to develop them. Not to mention that most of those chemical fretilizers are derived from organic materials! Most bat guano is very high in mercury, sounds healthy right? wrong. The reality is that this is a very complex subject with a lot of misinformation being spread around the web. If you want more control over what your plants ingest, go with chemicals fertilizers. By the way, you can't taste the difference in your crops based on what fertilizer you use; this has already been established by many colleges around the world. All of you here that make such claims, have no actual proof. You are just seeing your plants through "rose colored glasses."

 

[Gascanastan]

Quite the blanket statement bro..we are all sheep?....unlikely.

Another reminder that this is the organic soil forum....and that coming around here claiming chemical use is better than organic gardening looks to me like you're more troll than anything..maybe a moron as well. Could be a sock puppet for Advanced Nutrients..you probably are.
Some fact to contaminants being found in some organic material...really though if you think that any 'shit' is safe think again.

There's a whole forum here full of people that would argue that organic herb tastes better..if they cared about re-hashing the same old BS claim that is.

The chemi-grow section is a few pages over dude....you'll feel right at home there and won't get any flack from the living organic soil bastards like me.

Fuck around fuck around...

 

[VerdantGreen]

........ By the way, you can't taste the difference in your crops based on what fertilizer you use; this has already been established by many colleges around the world. All of you here that make such claims, have no actual proof. You are just seeing your plants through "rose colored glasses."

talking of proof, could you cite your references for your claim that organic cannabis doesnt taste better? - remember we smoke cannabis so any studies on crops that you eat will be meaningless in this context.

thanks

VG

 

[Scrappy4]

organics is -- well, misunderstood at best. You all should go and sign up for classes at your local college. Organics doesn't mean healthier or better. It means derived from organic sources. Those sources can be contaminated with all kinds of bad things; mercury, lead, arsenic and so on. Don't be fooled by clever advertisements and ill educated minds. The only reason organics might be better is from an energy consumption point-of-view. Most chemicals fertilizers are much cleaner and healthier for your crops. It just takes more energy to develop them. Not to mention that most of those chemical fretilizers are derived from organic materials! Most bat guano is very high in mercury, sounds healthy right? wrong. The reality is that this is a very complex subject with a lot of misinformation being spread around the web. If you want more control over what your plants ingest, go with chemicals fertilizers. By the way, you can't taste the difference in your crops based on what fertilizer you use; this has already been established by many colleges around the world. All of you here that make such claims, have no actual proof. You are just seeing your plants through "rose colored glasses."

And sex with a blow up doll is still sex, right?

Your misinformed treatise leaves out the role of microbes in organic vrs chem growing, and then of course the implications of that. Your not the first chem dawg on this forum spouting stoner theory, and most leave bruised....best of luck.....scrappy

 

[Gascanastan]

"And sex with a blow up doll is still sex, right?"

LMFAO...it may be good to some because they don't have to deal with emotions and feelings...just get in there and get 'er done. Wash,rinse,repeat.....you're all sheep!

 

[Docteur]

Remember to check the doll's runoff and ph

 

[They]

Who goes to college to find out what food taste like?

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Who goes to college to find out what food taste like?

Same people that defecate, urinate and menstruate on their plants hoping to achieve Elimination Excellence

 

[Azeotrope]

Gotta say..... I have always been a fan of organic methods. Over the years, I have stepped away and had very nice results with coco and salt ferts, even some water farms and dwc, but recently (after a short break), built a new cab and decided that the process, yield, taste and feeling of my organic runs have always been my favorite.

Just right with the world! Less stress and easier to manage, healthier plants and less risk to them from ME (LOL!). The processes that are undertaken to do it right and keep it cheap help me to process yard litter, kitchen/food waste and vegetable gardening in a more responsible and fullfilling manner. They encourage me to step outside (even though I don't sit around on my ass anyway) and get fresh air.

For you chem folks..... I know what happens when you (or I in the past) make even the slightest mixing error, have a pump (air or water) fail, don't flush long enough or run out of something. Have a meter fail? Or go rouge like I used to and run without one.....

The web of life works this out so well. Millions or billions of years of ecosystem evolution and balance offers you cheap and easy plant food and all you need other than lights and temp management.

Not here to bash back at some of the chem trolls that are trying to push our organic buttons, but after reading this thread I had to chime in. I have explored this craft and hobby many ways, and I do not judge those that go chem (and support the big oil and chem polluter corps...), but I do ask that you at least hold your tounge if you haven't given real wholesome organics a try.

Any rate, off to grind some egg shells for the wigglers!!!

Peace to all in 2013!!!! Warmest Regards from Azeotrope

 

[Gascanastan]

OMG...they're everywhere.....time for a bottle of 'sheep dip'.....extra strength..

 

[jerry111165]

Most chemicals fertilizers are much cleaner and healthier for your crops

ELAROMO -

I guess this sentence sez it all... But I have to ask...cleaner and healthier than what exactly?

Would you put a spoonful of alfalfa in your mouth or would you put a spoonful of chemical fertilizer in your mouth? Seriously - take a moment and think first, and then answer that question.

Please answer this question. Honestly.

J

 

[Tonygreen]

yeah, change the title.

it should read "almost anyone can grow better plants in soil".

hey blank85, I'm sure you tried real hard, but why do I get the feeling your soil was not like my soil?

for reference - mandala #1, 30 days, in soil. This is my "puts weight on late" pheno.

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and the matchstick-like stems

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Is that clover in your pots too?

Just another quick story about something mentioned above. A friend of mine just ''accidentally" kicked his turbo cloner out of the wall. just a few hours he said and they are all dead. My clones are sitting in 16 oz cups in my soil.

 

[Desert Hydro]

"LET YOUR PLANTS DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT AND WHEN. it just makes sense! as a human, would you be happier and healthier being force fed through a tube? or being able to choose what to eat at every meal according to your tastes and needs? well the plants feel the same way."

sometimes i think the choice to eat whatever we want is a curse. not for me, im fit as all hell lol but look around you. everyones a fatass nowadays. thats no way to live at least not for me. a strict force fed regimen is just what some of us need lol. its called a diet.

that being said, i love organics! but i can give someone my properly flushed and cured synthetic grown and they would swear its organic. its happened before many times. syn is easier to flush from what i read. i guess thats one of the reasons for the price difference. i would LOVE to devote a small section to organic moonshine mix soil with blumats where all i had to do was add water to a res and sit back and watch! eat on organic banana and then a regular one. the regular one may as well be a penis because you arent gonna like it after that organic one.... unless you like the penis, if so carry on hahaha

i really wanna try that soil recipe in the sig above me sometime

 

[Tonygreen]

JUST switched to it. I'm loving it, stop by my thread sometime and help a noob out!

 

[DuckDuckGoose]

i just bought something in a bottle today... Organic Gem. shit stinks like fish...better not be snake oil. it's certified organic, and certifiably stinks.

 

[jerry111165]

Duck Duck, as far as fish hydrolysates go, Organic Gem is the real deal - no worries.

J

 

[Durdy]

good to know, A buddy gave me some of this awhile back, haven't had the need for it yet

 

[NancyBotwin412]

One of my friends is all like "Yeah, my shit is organic." and I see them grab a bottle of FF Grow Big and Tiger Bloom then dumps it in the H20.... sure your organic!
Guess who always gets the call to save sick plants?
<<<<<< THIS GAL!

 

[ClackamasCootz]

i just bought something in a bottle today... Organic Gem. shit stinks like fish...better not be snake oil. it's certified organic, and certifiably stinks.

DDG

Unless you have access to small regional companies, Organic Gem is the best choice on products distributed nationally.

Microbeman recommends this product but there again, there are a handful of small producers and he uses one of these products. When you buy it at commercial, 5 gallons is usually under $50.00 - not a big deal.

In fact you can buy totes (1 c.y.) of frozen fish remains from processors on the Oregon Coast as well as Alaska. Now you can make your own if one were so inclined. You can order specific species (salmon, halibut, etc) or mixed lots. This is a way for a small producer to get the material to make enough volume to cover costs. I can think of at least 100 other ways that would earn more money with far less work - legal even.

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