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334,000W running on Aptus nutrients

Thanks DT, nice pics I wish my room were that clean and had that even of a canopy. My room looks like a jungle atm, doing 50+ plants all from seed under 6kw.

Aptus isnt in my shop yet but I will look at it when it comes around. Seems fairly easy to use, and the big rooms around here are using it in super dialed enviorments.

Have you ever used Dutch Master Gold 2 part flower as a base? I got Part A and B for super cheap and thinking about using it since Im low on my GH Micro and Bloom base. My plants are super happy and healthy and wondering if switching nutrients 2 weeks into flower is stupid. I believe I will be fine but never used Dutch Master base, so any advice?

hey bud

I dont think you can use APTUS IN A EBB & GROW.

Stick with Dutch master if its not broke dont fix it.

If you are ever going to switch nutes then do it start to finish so you see the real results. If you get good or bad results you will never know why you got it if you change halfway through
 
Oh boy looks killer, have U remove the fan leaves on those plants DT?


Yes but I remove them in week 3 and the end of week 6.

I find it really stresses the plant out so it produces more sugars for the final push

Try it on a few plants you will like it. just a little time consuming
 
I am bored, stoned, and have no snow tires. So I will break down my price model if I use Aptus....flower price calculation.

I use 3000w so you will have to adjust your figures to 40%. You might also use significantly more or less water per cycle, so you might need to address that as well.

Problem... Determine the Nute costs for a 9 week cycle. Week 9 is flush. Weeks 1-8 will be using H&G coco base nutes, supplemented twice a week with Aptus full line, ecozen used only once a week.

Answer.....

Approx volume of feed per week.

1. 80litres
2. 120 litres
3. 160 litres
4. 160 litres
5. 160 litres
6. 160 litres
7. 160 litres
8. 160 litres

1160 litres total.....this will need about $35 worth of H@G base.

Now for Aptus you need to find out how much of each you need each week. So for week 1. If I feed with Aptus twice a week. I need 2/7th of 80, or 23 litres. Use their calculator to determine which nutes I need that week, and how much of each

You do this for each week, then total each nute.
You then find the price of the bottle you want, and determine what percent of it you would use in the grow. Then use this percent against the cost of the bottle.

For example I would need 50ml of FAS per cycle, a 250ml bottle is $200, so it cost me $40.

Doing this for the full line works out to $186 per 3000w harvest.
Now for me, if it increases yield 2-3% over base nutes only, it was worth it.

Trolls that dont know math will see, my nute cost using aptus and H&G, is 6 times more than H&G alone, and since it won't increase yield 600% it is a waste of money. :moon:

Aptus is cheaper than H & G
 

loyalty7

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hey bud

I dont think you can use APTUS IN A EBB & GROW.

Stick with Dutch master if its not broke dont fix it.

If you are ever going to switch nutes then do it start to finish so you see the real results. If you get good or bad results you will never know why you got it if you change halfway through

I'm running aptus in an ebb and grow monster....i'm changing rez every five days....gets stinky by the 5th day but plants and yields are amazing...Bud sites everywhere...i believe bloomboost is a key component in there line. I start my bloomboost day 1 of flowering and see onset of preflowers very fast.(i believe aptus feed sched says to add bloomboost week 2, i believe it should be started earlier)....Good grow dutch touch.
 

LAMBS-BREAD

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Yes but I remove them in week 3 and the end of week 6.

I find it really stresses the plant out so it produces more sugars for the final push

Try it on a few plants you will like it. just a little time consuming


Thanks for the tips ! I'm doing this but wasn't doing and precise weeks more as I was going trough bloom from time to time.

Will try 3th and 6th weeks definitely:)
 

Dkgrower

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yes no water, Left turning amino acids... hence the bioavailability. this was one of the main things that interested me when speaking with the developer

its my understanding that the higest concentration is 40% L amino acid and only 25 % off that is available and many is lower, that is a 6-0-0 NPK-wise, used by nutrient formulators and its not expensive, hyrdolysed soyabean, whay or what source it came from.

Edit many things chelate nutriens molasse do that, aminoacids feed to medium feed microbes and is N, aminoacids is best used in foliar applications.

Anyway i leave it to u guys

Impressive grow and buds Dutch, sry fore my no water comments, prove me wrong or just keep pumping out nice buds.
 

VagPuncher

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I have 2 more grows running on Aptus.

Gonna have to phone the crew and order more.

Im switching to soil from coco. To much work watering 1300 plants a day for 2 people. Plant management takes a back seat cause im always watering. Big no-no. What's going on above the soil is as important as what's going on inside the soil. Switching to soil gives me every 2nd day off to tie, deleaf, spray..etc

I just started realizing how much of an art plucking/deleafing plants is.

Floranova
Aptus Additives.
C02.

Simple.


PS: Dutch Treat - Looks like I see a BioWave in your garden. Thoughts?

:woohoo:
 
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LAMBS-BREAD

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I se a Bio-Wave! I have 2 more grows running on Aptus.

Gonna have to phone the crew and order more.

Im switching to soil from coco. To much work watering 1300 plants a day for 2 people. Plamt management takesa back seat cause im always water. Big no-no. What's going on above the soil is as important as what's going on inside the soil.

I just started realizing how much of an art plucking/deleaging plants is.

Floranova
Aptus Additives.
C02.

Simple.


PS: Dutch Treat - Looks like I see a BioWave in your garden. Thoughts?

:woohoo:

Whats ur ph and ec with that line up Vag?
 

VagPuncher

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Whats ur ph and ec with that line up Vag?


Got 2 coco spots running on Aptus. Both in veg. One is flipped on Monday, the other on Jan 2nd.

Billy told me that I should be very careful not to use to much Floranova in the soil with Aptus. He told me to cut the dosage in half the whole way through.

I watered the soil plants today for the 1st time.

300 ppm of Floranova.
30ml of Fasilitor.
50ml of Startboost.
PH 6.2.

Mixed in a 50 gallon rez.

:woohoo:
 

LAMBS-BREAD

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I just started ther soil feed today.

Got 2 coco spots running on Aptus. Both in veg. One is flipped on Monday, the other on Jan 2nd.

Billy told me that I should be very careful not to use to much Floranova in the soil with Aptus. He told me to cut the dosage in half the whole way through.

I waterted the soil plants today for the 1st time.

300 ppm of Floranova.
30ml of Fasilitor.
50ml of Startboost.
PH 6.2.

Mixed in a 50 gallon rez.

:woohoo:

Can't wait how it will compare with coco. So U cut in half ur base nut, even when u're not adding aptus ? interesting. How often do U use aptus in a week ?
 

VagPuncher

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Can't wait how it will compare with coco. So U cut in half ur base nut, even when u're not adding aptus ? interesting. How often do U use aptus in a week ?

No. Cut your base in half when you use Aptus is the advice I was give from the Aptus crew.

I will give Aptus twice a week.
 
I'm running aptus in an ebb and grow monster....i'm changing rez every five days....gets stinky by the 5th day but plants and yields are amazing...Bud sites everywhere...i believe bloomboost is a key component in there line. I start my bloomboost day 1 of flowering and see onset of preflowers very fast.(i believe aptus feed sched says to add bloomboost week 2, i believe it should be started earlier)....Good grow dutch touch.

In one of my locations I once skipped out week one just light you did and went straight into week 2 and things where fine.

really the first 2 weeks of bloom the plant is still vegging so if you only have a 10-2 week veg before you flip then I think week 1 on the schedule works well
 
D

DHF

I have 2 more grows running on Aptus.

Gonna have to phone the crew and order more.

Im switching to soil from coco. To much work watering 1300 plants a day for 2 people. Plant management takes a back seat cause im always watering. Big no-no. What's going on above the soil is as important as what's going on inside the soil. Switching to soil gives me every 2nd day off to tie, deleaf, spray..etc

I just started realizing how much of an art plucking/deleafing plants is.

Floranova
Aptus Additives.
C02.

Simple.


PS: Dutch Treat - Looks like I see a BioWave in your garden. Thoughts?

:woohoo:
Vag.....Don`t sacrifice bottomline yields fer ease of tendin yer plants......I`m just sayin...Delegate authority and hire more help....but.....

Do whatever it takes ta make yer life easier......I just hope the additives and growin in slower draining soil with less aeration to the rootzone will getchas close to the same returns you`re used to with coco even if it took more watering/feed cycles.......and.....

DT........Strippin leaves off yer plants will stunt the shit out of em unless yas wait till complete end of stretch guaranteed.........

Witnessed it first hand from a self-proclaimed guru here several yrs back swearin that day 21 and day 45 was the way , truth , and light......but.......

What it did was add 2 FULL weeks to my Chem D Harvey`s to get even close to what I was used ta pullin @ 10 weeks that turned into 12.......on 8 separate rooms.......so......

I finally figured out that once hormonal changes in the plant had changed to complete swellage instead of still bein in stretch/root building mode , that ........

Strippin every fan with a stem attached gradually over a 7-10 day basis till they were all gone with only the 1 leafers juttin out the colas and limbs was the best way to concentrate the plants energy on suckin juice and pumpin resin as a survival mode during lights on , so the plants could concentrate on swellage during lights off instead of keepin nuthin ass un-needed fanleaves alive that were ultimately yellow off , shrivel up , fall on the floor , and provide perfect breeding grounds for potential late bloom air born nasties to form and proliferate.....anyways......

Just tryin ta help from all them yrs , so maybe it`ll help you yield more in the long run with yer big ass warehouse DT......and..........

Good luck Vag......and hope results from the Aptus continue to impress and improve DT......but.....Damn yall`s shit is expensive........and......

If I got some for a headies grow since I`m retired , am I gonna glow in the dark ?......:moon:......

Peace......DHF........:ying:......
 
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I have 2 more grows running on Aptus.

Gonna have to phone the crew and order more.

Im switching to soil from coco. To much work watering 1300 plants a day for 2 people. Plant management takes a back seat cause im always watering. Big no-no. What's going on above the soil is as important as what's going on inside the soil. Switching to soil gives me every 2nd day off to tie, deleaf, spray..etc

I just started realizing how much of an art plucking/deleafing plants is.

Floranova
Aptus Additives.
C02.

Simple.


PS: Dutch Treat - Looks like I see a BioWave in your garden. Thoughts?

:woohoo:

Hey vag

If I knew I would love to tell you.

It works for sure I dont know WTF it does but the plants dance to it

Looking forward to seeing your soil grow with co2.

Your last grow without co2 was killer
 
Vag.....Don`t sacrifice bottomline yields fer ease of tendin yer plants......I`m just sayin...Delegate authority and hire more help....but.....

Do whatever it takes ta make yer life easier......I just hope the additives and growin in slower draining soil with less aeration to the rootzone will getchas close to the same returns you`re used to with coco even if it took more watering/feed cycles.......and.....

DT........Strippin leaves off yer plants will stunt the shit out of em unless yas wait till complete end of stretch guaranteed.........

Witnessed it first hand from a self-proclaimed guru here several yrs back swearin that day 21 and day 45 was the way , truth , and light......but.......

What it did was add 2 FULL weeks to my Chem D Harvey`s to get even close to what I was used ta pullin @ 10 weeks that turned into 12.......on 8 separate rooms.......so......

I finally figured out that once hormonal changes in the plant had changed to complete swellage instead of still bein in stretch/root building mode , that ........

Strippin every fan with a stem attached gradually over a 7-10 day basis till they were all gone with only the 1 leafers juttin out the colas and limbs was the best way to concentrate the plants energy on suckin juice and pumpin resin as a survival mode during lights on , so the plants could concentrate on swellage instead of keepin nuthin ass un-needed fanleaves alive that were ultimately yellow off , shrivel up , fall on the floor , and provide perfect breeding grounds for potential late bloom air born nasties to form and proliferate.....anyways......

Just tryin ta help from all them yrs , so maybe it`ll help you yield more in the long run with yer big ass warehouse DT......and..........

Good luck Vag......and hope results for the Aptus continue to impress and improve DT......but.....Damn yall`s shit is expensive........and......

If I got some for a headies grow since I`m retired , am I gonna glow in the dark ?......:moon:......

Peace......DHF........:ying:......

Hey DHF
I strip off week 3 and week 6 and have done for several years. I have done side by sides on numerous strains and its always done the biz for me.

For sure with my set up and my routine that the stripping works for me. I have proven it with side by sides


what works for me may not work for other people but thanks for your input thats what these sites are for and we are all here to help each other.

Aptus is not expensive bro call them up and get the costs comp from them. I will try and find it I think I have one in my truck and post it

Good luck bud

Cheers :)
 
Vag.....Don`t sacrifice bottomline yields fer ease of tendin yer plants......I`m just sayin...Delegate authority and hire more help....but.....

Do whatever it takes ta make yer life easier......I just hope the additives and growin in slower draining soil with less aeration to the rootzone will getchas close to the same returns you`re used to with coco even if it took more watering/feed cycles.......and.....

DT........Strippin leaves off yer plants will stunt the shit out of em unless yas wait till complete end of stretch guaranteed.........

Witnessed it first hand from a self-proclaimed guru here several yrs back swearin that day 21 and day 45 was the way , truth , and light......but.......

What it did was add 2 FULL weeks to my Chem D Harvey`s to get even close to what I was used ta pullin @ 10 weeks that turned into 12.......on 8 separate rooms.......so......

I finally figured out that once hormonal changes in the plant had changed to complete swellage instead of still bein in stretch/root building mode , that ........

Strippin every fan with a stem attached gradually over a 7-10 day basis till they were all gone with only the 1 leafers juttin out the colas and limbs was the best way to concentrate the plants energy on suckin juice and pumpin resin as a survival mode during lights on , so the plants could concentrate on swellage during lights off instead of keepin nuthin ass un-needed fanleaves alive that were ultimately yellow off , shrivel up , fall on the floor , and provide perfect breeding grounds for potential late bloom air born nasties to form and proliferate.....anyways......

Just tryin ta help from all them yrs , so maybe it`ll help you yield more in the long run with yer big ass warehouse DT......and..........

Good luck Vag......and hope results from the Aptus continue to impress and improve DT......but.....Damn yall`s shit is expensive........and......

If I got some for a headies grow since I`m retired , am I gonna glow in the dark ?......:moon:......

Peace......DHF........:ying:......


Hey D



If you use GH then Aptus is expensive
 
D

DHF

Strippin leaves is strain dependent DT , and as long as what`s worked for you is what`s worked for you , it`s all good........but......

I suffered greatly from monthly rotations and strippin out Chem D on day 21 and again on day 45 , so as the old saying goes ....

Your mileage may vary......but again.....my point was that it might help you up your bottomline returns in the long run if yas waited till end of stretch and then started takin em all off gradually so as not to stress the plants with a raping @ 3 weeks and then another 1 @ 6.........anyways.......

Just tryin ta help.....Not blowin smoke over here Bro.....Ran many locations with multiple fliprooms in the Hell of the dirty south where cultivation is life without parole mandatory.......I`m a professional criminal where I live.....but.....

In reality , I`m just a good `ol country boy what done good for himself through hard work and perseverance......and.....

Respect for your big ass setup.....

Peace...DHF....:ying:.......
 

Jbonez

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I wouldnt strip any leaves in week 3, this will no doubt affect your potential.. I learned the hard way..

DT, if you arent seeing negative results, you may not be pulling very many...
 

Iffy

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Amazing grow Dutch Touch,
I ran a small commercial of 10 x tables and I remember the work involved in that. I can't imagine the effort & determination it took just to put yours all together & dialled in! Phenomenal! Great point about the pruning after the stretch.
Stay safe
 
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