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Health Canada finally made their announcement.

mango420

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From what I read it sounds like you need to have a location already before you can apply. They state that HC might come inspect the property and building before issuing the license. What id be most concerned with is getting a security clearance. You have to have your fingerprints taken at a police station, then HC takes those and all your personal information and submits it to the rcmp and local police where you have resided in the last 5 years. They also look at who you are associated with and if any of them have been charged with any crime. In the end its up to the minister's opinion whether or not you can get a security clearance, there are no set, you must not have done a b c in the last 5 years. So after jumping through all these hoops and having your life story and fingerprints put on file with the rcmp, they can just say no, for no reason, then your screwed. Sounds great doesnt it..fuck HC!
 

Rabbi

Member
Guidance: Wall Construction

The walls of your site should be constructed to assist in ensuring that unauthorized access to your site and its restricted areas is prevented.
For example, slab-to-slab construction and steel mesh sheets attached to the underside of structural joists can assist in ensuring wall security.


This will rule out warehouse complex where each suite is separated by a steel frame/drywall wall. It would have to have concrete wall between the suites or a small stand alone warehouse.

So does this mean no greenhouses on farm properties and etc could be approved?
 

vukman

Active member
Veteran
well, I've already written in and will do so every day for the next 75 days.

No matter what anyone thinks and says, this will drive up the price of meds. I do not see how and where they think that making this more regulated will somehow decrease criminal activity?

Spineless, useless politicians in Ottawa who will not and refuse to stand up to big money corporate lobbyists. How is someone on a fixed income barely getting by going to be able to afford pain relief?

I cannot get opiates, no other pain meds work. I am on Methadone for what little it does and now I will not be allowed to grow at home. Where is the regulation in price going to be when these 'corporate growers' decide that to cover their operating costs, they will need to sell their product at 15-20/gr?

A quality assurance person?? PLEASE!!!!!! I think it is safe to say we've all smoked crap that came from who knows where and we are no worse for the wear. Even cannabis grown today in semi-clean conditions is 1000% healthier for us than street stuff which was available when I was a 'kid'.... Anyone remember 'Columbian" at 40-50 an oz?? Yeah, I'm sure that was 'clean' and quality tested.

Where and when has tighter regulation forced the criminal element out of a market? NEVER.. the only way to get rid of the criminal element is to legalize or at best decriminalize so the trouble of production is higher than the income. This way, we might as well go back to the days of Prohibition. We all know how that went. Yeah, the so-called 'War on Drugs' is a major resounding success!!!!!!! NOT!!!!!!

Come on people...please join some sort of writing campaign. Let's not be the stereotypical easy going Canadians on this front........please.

Does everyone here realize that if we are caught growing at home after April 1st 2014, we can very easily become the largest section of the Canadian prison population?? For growing a few plants, the taxpayers will have to support us for who knows how long. This, I believe is the message that should be going out there. That people who are looking for nothing more than some pain relief will be filling up the prisons and sucking tax payer money away from everything else. Not to mention that I highly doubt while we sit in the new Harper prisons that they will be giving us anything for our pain........

Yes, this is my rant and flame me if you must to feel better about anything....I don't give a fuck anymore.. I've done more than my fair share of federally granted vacations and I honestly thought that the life was behind me but seeing what is coming down the pipe at us...well........looks like I will be a criminal once more............so fucking sad........

Thank you for reading
 

Pangea

Active member
Veteran
So does this mean no greenhouses on farm properties and etc could be approved?

The decision will be up to the minister. If you can adequately prove your greenhouse is secure than they may approve it. As has been mentioned, the physical security requirements are outcome based, not prescriptive.

There is specific mention of greenhouse glazing panels in the Guidance doc...
 

Lastdon

Active member
I know personally that any medicine that I take, I want it to be under sterile strict conditions, so no types of contamination can be found. Whether it be for example Tylenol, or Advil, or even Buckleys, or what not, I want there to be no contamination, so I ask you Pangea, what makes this medicine any different.

In fact it will be under the term medicine, so it would in fact have to be sterile and grown in that form. Who’s purchasing anything not sterile?

And there are those type of courses, that would provides people with jobs that work in health policy as to general standards and practices of how to prepare and handling of food.
There is an actual degree called Epidemiology

Which is: The science concerned with the study of the factors determining and influencing the frequency and distribution of disease, injury, and other health related events and there causes in a defined human population.

So the quality assurnace person might have to have some sort of formal education to insure that proper sterile medical conditions are meet.




Sec 54.1.A(ii)




Section C.02.029(b) of The Food and Drug Regulations state that for sterile drug production, supervising personnel are not required to have a degree in microbiology.

I highly doubt the QA manager will need a degree, considering that medical cannabis does not need to be produced under sterile conditions.

"has the training, experience and technical knowledge releating to the activity conducted"

The activity being conducted is cultivation and handling of a illegal plant. There has been no training offered by any institution that could be considered related to these activities. The closest would be general QA practices. "Experience and technical knowledge" would be much more relevant.

It couldnt hurt, but doubt it will be a requirement.


^^Opinion.
 
well, I've already written in and will do so every day for the next 75 days.

No matter what anyone thinks and says, this will drive up the price of meds. I do not see how and where they think that making this more regulated will somehow decrease criminal activity?

Spineless, useless politicians in Ottawa who will not and refuse to stand up to big money corporate lobbyists. How is someone on a fixed income barely getting by going to be able to afford pain relief?

I cannot get opiates, no other pain meds work. I am on Methadone for what little it does and now I will not be allowed to grow at home. Where is the regulation in price going to be when these 'corporate growers' decide that to cover their operating costs, they will need to sell their product at 15-20/gr?

A quality assurance person?? PLEASE!!!!!! I think it is safe to say we've all smoked crap that came from who knows where and we are no worse for the wear. Even cannabis grown today in semi-clean conditions is 1000% healthier for us than street stuff which was available when I was a 'kid'.... Anyone remember 'Columbian" at 40-50 an oz?? Yeah, I'm sure that was 'clean' and quality tested.

Where and when has tighter regulation forced the criminal element out of a market? NEVER.. the only way to get rid of the criminal element is to legalize or at best decriminalize so the trouble of production is higher than the income. This way, we might as well go back to the days of Prohibition. We all know how that went. Yeah, the so-called 'War on Drugs' is a major resounding success!!!!!!! NOT!!!!!!

Come on people...please join some sort of writing campaign. Let's not be the stereotypical easy going Canadians on this front........please.

Does everyone here realize that if we are caught growing at home after April 1st 2014, we can very easily become the largest section of the Canadian prison population?? For growing a few plants, the taxpayers will have to support us for who knows how long. This, I believe is the message that should be going out there. That people who are looking for nothing more than some pain relief will be filling up the prisons and sucking tax payer money away from everything else. Not to mention that I highly doubt while we sit in the new Harper prisons that they will be giving us anything for our pain........

Yes, this is my rant and flame me if you must to feel better about anything....I don't give a fuck anymore.. I've done more than my fair share of federally granted vacations and I honestly thought that the life was behind me but seeing what is coming down the pipe at us...well........looks like I will be a criminal once more............so fucking sad........

Thank you for reading

Who should we all be sending letters to?
 

vukman

Active member
Veteran
I know personally that any medicine that I take, I want it to be under sterile strict conditions, so no types of contamination can be found. Whether it be for example Tylenol, or Advil, or even Buckleys, or what not, I want there to be no contamination, so I ask you Pangea, what makes this medicine any different.

In fact it will be under the term medicine, so it would in fact have to be sterile and grown in that form. Who’s purchasing anything not sterile?

And there are those type of courses, that would provides people with jobs that work in health policy as to general standards and practices of how to prepare and handling of food.
There is an actual degree called Epidemiology

Which is: The science concerned with the study of the factors determining and influencing the frequency and distribution of disease, injury, and other health related events and there causes in a defined human population.



So the quality assurnace person might have to have some sort of formal education to insure that proper sterile medical conditions are meet.

Yes, this is why our rights to grow our own should not be taken away from us!!!
 

Pangea

Active member
Veteran
I know personally that any medicine that I take, I want it to be under sterile strict conditions, so no types of contamination can be found. Whether it be for example Tylenol, or Advil, or even Buckleys, or what not, I want there to be no contamination, so I ask you Pangea, what makes this medicine any different.

In fact it will be under the term medicine, so it would in fact have to be sterile and grown in that form. Who’s purchasing anything not sterile?

And there are those type of courses, that would provides people with jobs that work in health policy as to general standards and practices of how to prepare and handling of food.
There is an actual degree called Epidemiology

Which is: The science concerned with the study of the factors determining and influencing the frequency and distribution of disease, injury, and other health related events and there causes in a defined human population.

So the quality assurnace person might have to have some sort of formal education to insure that proper sterile medical conditions are meet.

You must be receiving your medication from Prairie Plant Systems, as they would be the only source of sterilized cannabis in the country, though i suppose if your are clandestinely bringing it in from out of country it could be irradiated through the postal system.

I agree with you, there should be conditions in the regulations for sterile production and non sterile.

There is only one instance of the term "medicine" in the entire proposed regulations:

"48. (1) The microbial and chemical content of dried marihuana must be within generally accepted tolerance limits for herbal medicines for human consumption, as established in any publication referred to in Schedule B to the Food and Drugs Act."

The accepted limits in those references do not require sterility.

If sterile production was required it would mean irradiated medicine or cultivation requirements that would be prohibitively expensive.

And as my post that you quoted stated. The QA manager does not require a degree, even in sterile drug/medicine production they only require relevant educational courses to be completed, not a degree.
 

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