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[whodare]

It would be nice if you could remember that math theory, I really love theoretical physics even though math was neve my strong point.

Yes, theory and reality, often divergent. I love a good mystery!

Fish bowl, hmmm, a bit simplistic, but in simplicity beauty often shines.

I like the analogy, but have a hard time believing in a finite universe, not because it doesn't make more sense, but because every discovery of the universe leads us further and further down the whole.

For every answer, 10 more questions. Who knows, but the universal subconscious, wish I could contact her. Maybe on shrooms.

Speaking of which I need to grow some more penis envy

 

[unspoken]

I think here's your problem with infinity, Jbonez:

"To an intuitionist, the claim that an object with certain properties exists is a claim that an object with those properties can be constructed. Any mathematical object is considered to be a product of a construction of a mind, and therefore, the existence of an object is equivalent to the possibility of its construction. This contrasts with the classical approach, which states that the existence of an entity can be proved by refuting its non-existence."

 

[Jbonez]

If I was a deity, the obscurity provided by the universe would easily allow me to remain unseen..

 

[whodare]

I do wonder about the existence of a god.

Certainly not the partisan douche any earth religion would have us believe.

 

[unspoken]

If a statement P is provable, then it is impossible to prove that there is no proof of P. But even if it can be shown that no disproof of P is possible, we cannot conclude from this absence that there is a proof of P. Thus P is a stronger statement than not-not-P.

 

[Jbonez]

I think here's your problem with infinity, Jbonez:

"To an intuitionist, the claim that an object with certain properties exists is a claim that an object with those properties can be constructed. Any mathematical object is considered to be a product of a construction of a mind, and therefore, the existence of an object is equivalent to the possibility of its construction. This contrasts with the classical approach, which states that the existence of an entity can be proved by refuting its non-existence."

Typical scientist.. lol

 

[whodare]

?

If p is provable, and you can't disprove it, how does no proof exist?

I mean I understand if you havent proven it in the first place, but that statement doesn't compute with me, maybe I'm missing something.

 

[Jbonez]

If a statement P is provable, then it is impossible to prove that there is no proof of P. But even if it can be shown that no disproof of P is possible, we cannot conclude from this absence that there is a proof of P. Thus P is a stronger statement than not-not-P.

Absolutes do not exist..

For example, quantum math contradicts known physics... Even math breaks down at some point..

 

[unspoken]

whodare, it's intuitionist logic. I think you might've misunderstood.

 

[unspoken]

For example, if A is some mathematical statement that an intuitionist has not yet proved or disproved, then that intuitionist will not assert the truth of "A or not A". However, the intuitionist will accept that "A and not A" cannot be true.

Do you see the and/or difference?

 

[Jbonez]

Whodare
http://www.mypersonality.info/personality-types/sensing-intuition/

 

[whodare]

I know I took the faux/simple Briggs test and came in between intp ans infp. And that seems about right, I actually do struggle between feelings and thinking.

 

[Jbonez]

I know I took the faux/simple Briggs test and came in between intp ans infp. And that seems about right, I actually do struggle between feelings and thinking.

The great thing about us as people is that we can develop our weaker cognitive functions with practice..

One split betwixt two corresponding facets of a cognitive function is represented as x.

You are inxp... I am technically xntp, with a slight bias for introversion, same with my intuition, about 70/30 tho on N/s.

Knowing our weakness is key, we dont get to know anything truly often, but our weaknesses can be honed into strengths..

I can tell your feelings get in the way of your logic at times, passion is a hard thing to ignore.. I dont ever react with feelings, Im always playing chess, every minute of every day... 100% thinker.. shit is whack..

 

[unspoken]

Absolutes do not exist..

For example, quantum math contradicts known physics... Even math breaks down at some point..

Is that not an absolute?

 

[whodare]

Is it that easy to tell lol


I sometimes hate my empathy/feelings, but I try to realize they offer humanity to my logic. And that we don't live in an emotionless world so my feelings alow me to understand people I might not ideaLOGICACALLY Get along with...

 

[Jbonez]

Is that not an absolute?

I KNOW!!! MINDFUCK EXPLOSION!!!

 

[Jbonez]

Is it that easy to tell lol

Probably not usually, unless one was browsing the defoliating thread...

 

[whodare]

Lol, just trying to protect the young sheep....

 

[unspoken]

The interpretation of negation is different in intuitionist logic than in classical logic. In classical logic, the negation of a statement asserts that the statement is false; to an intuitionist, it means the statement is refutable.

 

[Jbonez]

Lol, just trying to protect the young sheep....

yeah yeah... Im seeing issues with my chemD, she looks amazing but she isnt going to stretch like I need, then again, shell have bud from top to bottom..

I cant debate a topic I have zero experience or understanding in rather, so I am getting said experience in order to revisit later with my hypothesis..

Zero feelings allows me to rarely get mad...

Unspoken was about to piss me off at one point in time, then I started realizing he was in fact "unspoken" in regards to his intellect, and I actually have been a little more quiet as a result, I dont know him, but I have to concede to experience, of which it appears he has in droves.. Ive zero formal education, I dont think I can say the same for him, so I am watching.... Concession is never a bad thing, quite the contrary, its enlightenment..

Imo, you speak about things without any experience, that is extraverted intuition, knowing without needing to prove it to anyone.. But you dont know anything, none of us do.. Im guilty of this often, tho I retract quickly if I am hasty..