His most serious crime? Being high while black

[vta]

No, that's not my point!?. My point is USA is definitely a racist country. Not that he didn't do anything wrong, that is completely besides the point.
There is two examples in my post in one pic. Did you look at both?? No, the crime was not okay. He violated federal law, so do we(most of us).

So did the other guy.

The dude in your pic ROBBED A BANK! I don't give a shit if he is hungry...I've been hungry but would never of thought to ROBB A BANK! Do you realize how scared the teller must of been??? I know a gal that had was a teller and had a gun put to her head...fucked her up real good. The asshole that did it to her got caught (outside the bank) and got 20 years...well deserved! The other guy in your 'story' committed a white collar crime...no one was ever threatened with their life. There is a difference and the sentencing proves it....although 3 years is a little light...it was not a violent crime.

 

[Max Yields]

The dude in your pic ROBBED A BANK! I don't give a shit if he is hungry...I've been hungry but would never of thought to ROBB A BANK! Do you realize how scared the teller must of been??? I know a gal that had was a teller and had a gun put to her head...fucked her up real good. The asshole that did it to her got caught (outside the bank) and got 20 years...well deserved! The other guy in your 'story' committed a white collar crime...no one was ever threatened with their life. There is a difference and the sentencing proves it....although 3 years is a little light...it was not a violent crime.

I'm not trying to sway any opinions. I don't care to at all. I'm speaking my own opinion as I always will. Some say opinions are like assholes,
well it's MY asshole.
Robbing a bank at gunpoint IS a serious crime. I agree that the other guy had more intelligence, but my only point is that the sentence was also based on race, while the other wasn't. Not that one crime was worse or better than the other.

That is all.

 

[sso]

im gonna tell a story.

about 10 years back, i was seriously depressed and became a bum (with a home, probably would be dead othervise.)

i got picked up by the cops alot and not treated too good.

the same cops, i was driving a huge benz a drugdealer friend of mine had.
i was wearing this really fancy suit my grandma gave me.

cop backed off fast, soon as he saw the suit and apologized for having disturbed me.
i had lots of stuff on me and was going to a drugdealer lanparty (lol)


another story.

was travelling, got malaria in vietnam, came back looking real disheveled and unshaven i look kinda arab, was wearing some chinese clothes to boot.

got stopped at every airport and checked for bombs (barely could stand from the after effects of the malaria and had slurred speech.)

spoke to a few blacks at the german airport(oh i talk to everyone thats nice.well, if it happens, i often speak to people at airports.it just happens.), they get stopped All the time, even the friendly looking slightly chubby guy in a business suit.


now, well dressed, suit jacket and some nice jeans, well shaven and a good haircut.

i look like a top class aryan (white.)

upper middle class at worst.

like a tanned handsome young aristocrat, i even talk and walk like that.

going like that? i get nearly rushed through airports and nothing but friendly from every face.

no problem at all, going to the airport is like going to the expensive mall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY

 

[sso]

to be clear, i hate this profiling and especially racial profiling, i find it utterly dumb and im ashamed my fellow humans do this.

learn to recognize the inside, dont go by the fucking cover of the book.

 

[pip313]

race was not involved the 3 billion guy commited a white collar crime without minimum sentences the bank robber commited one with minimum sentences. Not to mention I bet the 3 billion guy had a team of high priced lawyers and black guys get off too when they have a dream team and yes thats a O.J. Simpson reference.

I support profiling, its a profile for a reason, statistically someone matching a profile is more likely to be your guy. Don't want to get profiled then change yourself. Work hard, get a nice non ghetto car, dress nice, use proper english, fucking simple.

I am tired of people around me dying because of fucking pieces of shit. Again google john maus detroit murder for the latest example of a friend of mine dying because of others that fit the profile of a piece of trash perfect.

Racist or not here are the facts of my life, total people I knew dead due to being murdered, 6. Total murdered by a white person 0. Murdered by a black 6. But its not thier fault right? They deserve to act any way they want right? I am ashamed of society. I do live in detroit so my view may be extreme due to detroits high crime rate but my life is what it is and these people are not coming back.

 

[Max Yields]

I see your point, I can kinda relate to what you are saying, & your angle of this. I'll agree to disagree with it & also say that money is a huge deciding factor regardless of race. All over the world, not just in the USA.

I agree, the black guy would've beat the case with some money & some high powered lawyers, no doubt about that. At least he'd have gotten a fair trial with some years reduced. Money is power.

 

[Bud buster]

The 3 billion dollar scam did way more harm then the 100 dollar robbery scaring a few people in the bank. Families were ruined, divorced, retirement savings gone for many people on fixed incomes how many suicides or people just hitting bottom and killing themselves in another way or others. The laws are backward and favor the rich in every category but the white collar laws are the worst you can steal as much money as you can and still get bailed out with no investigation and if you are caught your sentence will be minimal house arrest or half the time in prison despite harming thousands of people.

 

[Max Yields]

I support profiling, its a profile for a reason, statistically someone matching a profile is more likely to be your guy. Don't want to get profiled then change yourself. Work hard, get a nice non ghetto car, dress nice, use proper english, fucking simple.

I am tired of people around me dying because of fucking pieces of shit. Again google john maus detroit murder for the latest example of a friend of mine dying because of others that fit the profile of a piece of trash perfect.

Racist or not here are the facts of my life, total people I knew dead due to being murdered, 6. Total murdered by a white person 0. Murdered by a black 6. But its not thier fault right? They deserve to act any way they want right? I am ashamed of society.

Your stating the obvious. Yes the black guy did it in that case. Do they statistically commit more crimes, yes. But there are also SOOO many false arrests for no reason ALL the time, that the common caucasian person won't go through even if they are guilty. Even though you may feel that it's okay for profiling, sometimes you don't have to look like the profile to be profiled. Being another race is enough. Look up the facts about it. I was just chiming in noticing that this does happen & it could've been possible in this case. I'm not saying for every single crime throughout history or what black people always do or get blamed for, I only was referring to this story. This incident seemed race related to me. I may be wrong, but I may also be right. For whatever reason, it happens it does happen. You said it yourself in your post.<-----

Besides scamming ALL those innocent people out of their livelyhood is waaay worse than harming, wait not even harming threatening, another person. Many were harmed for many, many dollars in the white collar crime, no one was seriously hurt in the black guys crime. Except the black guy.

Again, I'm not defending him, only observing & giving my opinion on it.

 

[sso]

well, the laws are mostly there to protect those with money against those without money.


the money system is such, that no one can have everything, without everyone else, having nothing.

the more rich people we have, the more poor people we have.

 

[pip313]

The 3 billion scam did do more harm but outdated laws are still the law. Bank robbery has been around for alot longer than white collar investment fraud type shit so it makes sense that the laws are better at dealing with bank robbers.

Just because he only got a hundred bucks did not mean he did not try for a hundred grand, he was just unlucky.

 

[pip313]

I would rather get harrassed on a occasion than be in danger because of the general public. Life is not free, life is not safe, life is not perfect, criminals do (should) not have rights (only the convicted ones). We live in a imperfect world and its the criminals fault. I fucking hate the police so I feel weird sticking up for them but I am scared to go to certian areas of my city with the police acting the way they do now, I can only imagine what life would be like if these criminals (every color) had it easier.

I live in one of the worst cities in the country. My view may be extreme but my friends keep dying. No amount of hippie lets all get along or we are all the same is gonna bring them back.

 

[sso]

what really is the problem, is that we are living in a "survival of the fittest" system.

basically an extension of the jungle.



sooner or later, for many people, if you are on the bottom, you figure, what the fuck are laws, but words on paper, put there by sleazy fucking fatcats for their own protection?

i gotta do what i gotta do to survive, people obviously dont give a fuck about anyone but their own ass, why should i?

and once you go down that road, sooner or later, people are just things, objects, obstacles in your path.

and if they got no love from the start? not even their parents or anyone?

voila

monsters.

 

[pip313]

I grew up dirt poor in a single parent house in detroit. We were below poverty and my mom refused to get state aid so no food stamps. My dad beat me from time to time when he came around and I still did something with myself ON MY OWN. save me the they cant help themselves its not there fault shit cause thats all it is is shit and people need to stop giving people excuses. Will I loose sleep over this guy going to jail? nope he had cocaine enough said

Being black does not hold you back. I agree racist people can slow you down but the fricking president is black that there proves a black man can accomplish anything a white man can.

 

[Max Yields]

The 3 billion scam did do more harm but outdated laws are still the law. Bank robbery has been around for alot longer than white collar investment fraud type shit so it makes sense that the laws are better at dealing with bank robbers.

Just because he only got a hundred bucks did not mean he did not try for a hundred grand, he was just unlucky.

He had the opportunity to take lots more, but said that he only needed a 100 dollars to eat & told the teller to keep the rest of the money.
He only wanted 100 bucks.

 

[Max Yields]

I grew up dirt poor in a single parent house in detroit. We were below poverty and my mom refused to get state aid so no food stamps. My dad beat me from time to time when he came around and I still did something with myself ON MY OWN. save me the they cant help themselves its not there fault shit cause thats all it is is shit and people need to stop giving people excuses. Will I loose sleep over this guy going to jail? nope he had cocaine enough said

Being black does not hold you back. I agree racist people can slow you down but the fricking president is black that there proves a black man can accomplish anything a white man can.

I fully agree with this here.

 

[pip313]

"He had the opportunity to take lots more, but said that he only needed a 100 dollars to eat & told the teller to keep the rest of the money.
He only wanted 100 bucks."

Then he's a moron he should have robbed a liquor store as thats not federal. The judge shouldnt be called racist the guys just stupid.

 

[Max Yields]

"He had the opportunity to take lots more, but said that he only needed a 100 dollars to eat & told the teller to keep the rest of the money.
He only wanted 100 bucks."

Then he's a moron he should have robbed a liquor store as thats not federal. The judge shouldnt be called racist the guys just stupid.

I already mentioned this fact. The other guy was waaay smarter.....He was too dumb for his own good if he's trying to rob a bank for 100 freakin' dollars.
Very stupid idiot, yes. Still racist though in my opinion.

 

[pip313]

mandatory minimum 15 years
guys sentence 15 years
racist how?

 

[avant gardener]

Please name one prison in the country where there is forced labor?

maricopa county jail.


anyway, you can hardly call any prison labor voluntary. let's say i lock you in a cage and tell you that i'll give you meager rations daily, a bar of hotel soap and a roll of toilet paper every week, and two pairs of clean drawers every three months. now if i offer you a speedstick and a jar of instant coffee in exchange for working a 40 hr week at a job that no sane free pescon would do for less than $20/hr, you probably wouldn't say that you entered into the arrangement willingly.

i doubt you've seen the business side of a correctional institution for longer than couple days.

 

[pip313]

If I raped your daughter or killed your wife would you want me to get paid a good wage off your tax dollars?

I would not work period. let them starve me to death ill be a marter no problem. Then again I won't be going to prison any time soon because I am not a loser fuck-up.