AN PH Perfect experiences?

[MadScientist22]

Its a steal if you purchase the entire Grandmaster bundle together. Its only $900 for a litre of everything you will need to give your plants the essential elements they need to ensure ultimate market value. Im not making this up as I go or anything.
Peace

yup i actually ordered my nutes from cheapadavancednutrients.com and you buy 3 things and you get one free and i had to pay no sales tax or shipping charges, i will try to post some pictures of the agent orange but i am too paranoid lol....

 

[siftedunity]

Its a steal if you purchase the entire Grandmaster bundle together. Its only $900 for a litre of everything you will need to give your plants the essential elements they need to ensure ultimate market value. Im not making this up as I go or anything.
Peace

jesus christ just looked it up. what a rip off. you dont need all that shit anyway. i just use the base sensibloom a and b and bigbud. its cheap if you dont buy all the gimick stuff.

but then hey i got the h&g roots excel is fucking expensive etc etc.. tbh alot of the companies have overpriced stuff.

 

[siftedunity]

yup i actually ordered my nutes from cheapadavancednutrients.com and you buy 3 things and you get one free and i had to pay no sales tax or shipping charges, i will try to post some pictures of the agent orange but i am too paranoid lol....

be cool to see the pics

 

[TribalSeeds]

This is just real quick off the top of my head. But per directed use:

250ml RE@1ml per gal = 250gal $60
1 liter BB@8ml per gal = 125 gal $40 x2 =$80

Im terrible with numbers, this might not make sense... Correct me if Im wrong.
They obviously serve a different purpose, but when you look at the cost its not quite what it seems.
When you look at a competitive product like Hydroplex for $25 for 1 liter or Kool Bloom for $20... Hydroplex also contains all the aminos and mg that your plants could ever desire.
I think the bigbud powder is cheaper than the liquid, but Im terrible at math and Im not going to do the math to see if its cheaper than hydroplex because its unlikely since its AN.

 

[siftedunity]

lol

idk mate id go

a and b two mls per ltr= 500ltr for £15
same bb = 500ltrs for £20

500ltrs =109 gallons for £35 or $56

 

[TribalSeeds]

Oh god! The exchange rate is too complicated for me m8!

 

[siftedunity]

This is just real quick off the top of my head. But per directed use:

250ml RE@1ml per gal = 250gal $60
1 liter BB@8ml per gal = 125 gal $40 x2 =$80

Im terrible with numbers, this might not make sense... Correct me if Im wrong.
They obviously serve a different purpose, but when you look at the cost its not quite what it seems.
When you look at a competitive product like Hydroplex for $25 for 1 liter or Kool Bloom for $20... Hydroplex also contains all the aminos and mg that your plants could ever desire.
I think the bigbud powder is cheaper than the liquid, but Im terrible at math and Im not going to do the math to see if its cheaper than hydroplex because its unlikely since its AN.

tbh your compearing it to one of the cheapest brands out there. id love use bottanicare but they dont sell it in the uk.
it works out better on the dosage ratio, but in all fairness i know someone in the states who only use botanicare, they switched to connoseur and beat their personal bests on yield, then ditched that and now they use soul synthetics.

 

[siftedunity]

Oh god! The exchange rate is too complicated for me m8!

i did that for you lol

 

[siftedunity]

in the uk the h&g and canna base nutes are the same price as the sensi a and b-£15

the h&g bud xl is £25. the canna pk 13-14 is about £14 and the AN bigbud is £25.

so technically canna is cheaper, h&g is about the same as AN

although if using the canna coco base, you need to use 4mls per litre which is rediculous. only 250ltrs mix from a ltr bottle which would last me about a month per light.

 

[TribalSeeds]

Bud xl is actually nothing like any of the products you listed. Its more like Canna BOOST. That shit is super expensive...
KB is much cheaper than botanicare.
I see what you did up there now. You throw out £ and you might as well be speaking Japanese. You compared A/B price to big bud... gotcha
They are all about the same base price @1 liter. Its the 10-20 liter savings with the other brands and not so much with AN

1 liter flakes a/b=$30
10 liters flakes a/b = 100
$10 per liter

1 liter sensi a/b = $30
10 liter sensi a/b= 150
$15 per liter

10 liter is easy math, you dont want to see the 20 liter comparison if you buy 1 liter at a time.

 

[whodare]

ill refer to JR PETERS again...

25#'s of base and calnit (a complete nutrient ie these two bags are all you need), ~80$ shipped

easily 5000 gallons of final mix...


thats $00.016

or roughly 1.5 cents per gallon....

less than the two pennies i just left ya...

 

[siftedunity]

Bud xl is actually nothing like any of the products you listed. Its more like Canna BOOST. That shit is super expensive...
KB is much cheaper than botanicare.
I see what you did up there now. You throw out £ and you might as well be speaking Japanese. You compared A/B price to big bud... gotcha
They are all about the same base price @1 liter. Its the 10-20 liter savings with the other brands and not so much with AN

1 liter flakes a/b=$30
10 liters flakes a/b = 100
$10 per liter

1 liter sensi a/b = $30
10 liter sensi a/b= 150
$15 per liter

10 liter is easy math, you dont want to see the 20 liter comparison if you buy 1 liter at a time.

oh right, tbh i thought on first glance that bud xl was their version of a flowering booster or something. tbh the more i think about it the more i might just switch over.
i checked my ph perfect stuff and its 4 mls per litre of a and b. its a joke. completely stupid as it would work out double the cost of the sensi a and b.

im a bit pissed off to be fair. the only reason i picked it up was because there was no sensi in stock and ive effectively bout something for the same price that will last me half the time.

and you did make a good point with the grand master selection for $900 i mean shit. id honestly only ever be able to use the big bud and sensibloom. there is no way i would buy the budfactor x and shit its just rediculously over priced. i might bite the bullet in spring and switch over to canna. wouldnt bother with their coco nutes though.

 

[siftedunity]

ill refer to JR PETERS again...

25#'s of base and calnit (a complete nutrient ie these two bags are all you need), ~80$ shipped

easily 5000 gallons of final mix...


thats $00.016

or roughly 1.5 cents per gallon....

less than the two pennies i just left ya...

is this what you use? do you have any pics of your plants using it?

 

[TribalSeeds]

ill refer to JR PETERS again...

25#'s of base and calnit (a complete nutrient ie these two bags are all you need), ~80$ shipped

easily 5000 gallons of final mix...


thats $00.016

or roughly 1.5 cents per gallon....

less than the two pennies i just left ya...

Nice! I always assumed it wasnt much cheaper than maxi, but then youre just pinching pennies! This was a showdown between the expensive nutrients.

 

[whodare]

is this what you use? do you have any pics of your plants using it?

Rdwc, jr peters hydro 1.2 ec max' 6.3 ph 80f res.

Nice! I always assumed it wasnt much cheaper than maxi, but then youre just pinching pennies! This was a showdown between the expensive nutrients.

I figure 5$ vs 150$ for nutrients start to finish is I big deal for some growers...

Then do the math on a large scale grow. Imagine mixing 1000 gallons at a time. Now it's 20$ vs 600$. Shit adds up quick.

Either way good results can be had but for simplicity and cost I choose jr peters.



Now I don't even measure my dosages. I add a base concentrate(pre dissolved) till I reach .7ec then the calnit until I reach 1.2 ec total. In ro water it puts your ph right where you need it.

 

[catalyte]

there's an interesting debate going on in here, but seriously can you Jr Peters growers understand that maybe with high end nutrients you can squeeze out a bit more profit?

I've seen about 20% more with A.N nutrients ( not the whole line just SensiBloom A&B, B-52, Tarantula, Big Bud, SensiZym and Bud Candy) . Environment and Wattage and Strain and Plant Count still are still very important factors too, i would say those factors account for the other 80% of the potential of an Indoor Grow.

I think for a couple hundred more on A.N the extra 20% in yield and high potency is well is well worth it on that return...

 

[TribalSeeds]

Rdwc, jr peters hydro 1.2 ec max' 6.3 ph 80f res.

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I figure 5$ vs 150$ for nutrients start to finish is I big deal for some growers...

Then do the math on a large scale grow. Imagine mixing 1000 gallons at a time. Now it's 20$ vs 600$. Shit adds up quick.

Either way good results can be had but for simplicity and cost I choose jr peters.



Now I don't even measure my dosages. I add a base concentrate(pre dissolved) till I reach .7ec then the calnit until I reach 1.2 ec total. In ro water it puts your ph right where you need it.

Im so small time I cant even imagine mixing a swimming pool size rez full of nutrients! You win

 

[siftedunity]

who dare - lovely plants man

mr clean cut- im quite in agreement with you. ive had a wicked yielding grow this time last year which i would find it hard to top with the same nute schedule let alone a whole new line.

 

[standsideways]

I think for a couple hundred more on A.N the extra 20% in yield and high potency is well is well worth it on that return...

And they have a 100% moneyback guarantee as long as your local AN dealer isnt a douche, you can gladly have your $ back.

Hard to argue with a money back guarantee, especially for those guys on a LARGE scale
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EDIT: does anyone else not give TWO SHITS about making there own nutrients from scratch?

Do you make your own bread? Milk your own cows? Catch your own meat?

For most people, it is MUCH easier, MUCH less daunting, and MUCH more time efficient to buy nutes all ready to go, why the fuck do you think there is 1000 nutrient companies the world over???! Jesus!

I dont understand the whole "YOU CAN MAKE ____ yourself for Less $" argument that pops up in every nute thread, gtfo of the pre made nute threads if you just wanna KEEP bashing peoples choices.

Different strokes for different folks, we are all using the same basic ingredients in the end.

 

[whodare]

And they have a 100% moneyback guarantee as long as your local AN dealer isnt a douche, you can gladly have your $ back.

Hard to argue with a money back guarantee, especially for those guys on a LARGE scale

lol ok so its money back guaranteed whoopie. like you said though, only if they decide to honor it.

ok say you need 1000 gallons of solution

how much you want to pay?

$10.50

or

$50(just for sensi a&b no additives included)

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EDIT: does anyone else not give TWO SHITS about making there own nutrients from scratch?

Do you make your own bread? Milk your own cows? Catch your own meat?

who said scratch???

jr peters hydro is a two part in powder form...

For most people, it is MUCH easier, MUCH less daunting, and MUCH more time efficient to buy nutes all ready to go, why the fuck do you think there is 1000 nutrient companies the world over???! Jesus!

the jr peters selections are ready to go. dissolve and mix.

and there are a thousand "nutrient" companies because there are a million fools ready to be parted from their dollars.

I dont understand the whole "YOU CAN MAKE ____ yourself for Less $" argument that pops up in every nute thread, gtfo of the pre made nute threads if you just wanna KEEP bashing peoples choices.

who's bashing anyone you twat??? i came in here to simply point out the significant price difference between a legitimate agricultural fertilizer, and these flashy hydro store nutrients.


and again, jr peters is a tw part you dont need to make shit except your final solution.

Different strokes for different folks, we are all using the same basic ingredients in the end.

and there lies the issue, all the ingredients are the same, in fact i would argue jr peters uses better nitrogen sources(ie less ammonia and urea).

so

$00.015 per gallon
or
$00.010- $00.020 per gallon

i dont care if you want to throw your money away chasing that mythical extra 20% i really dont,

but ill kindly advise, its likely better to save the money on nutrients and add another light, or focus on perfect environment, both of which are significantly more likely to increase your yields over "new" more expensive nutrients...