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i dont like tasting guano, please help me flush

megayields

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h.h.

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Gently remove the plants from the soil. Gently wash off the roots and place in a bucket of water. Add an air hose if you have it and change the water daily. Keep the plant alive for about 1 week with pure water and nothing else. I used very hot water, filtered from the tap. It wasn't a miracle, but it made high nitrogen weed palatable. That is if you have nothing else.
You can not "flush" in the same soil in which the problem arose. You're not really flushing with the water. You're giving the plant a chance to use up excess nutrients. I'm not sure about the hot water. I had been told that was a way to draw any resin out of the stems and whatever. It didn't. What it also didn't do to my surprise was kill the plant. If it helped with faster water uptake, I don't know.
 

Gascanastan

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BTW...I am crying for my mother on an extreme level over that neg rep. Big 'goo goo want ma ma' all around on that one..waaaaa mommy.
 
good info...........for the most part. I used to use guanos in by grows and def could taste a difference in buds when I stopped. I kinda liked a little poopy taste......atleast in my bud:biggrin:
 

Gascanastan

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This can/will be true of amendments with a soluble component to them like manures and plant material like alfalfa meal, etc. [I think]
Another BTW.....congrats MM on your new title ....YOU MY FRIEND HAVE ACTUALLY EARNED IT...(if that means anything)...it wasn't just handed to you because you were female or 'cool'......justice?....karma?...!!!
 

Weird

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i had a slightly different take on organic gardening so I am gonna put my ANECDOTAL 2 cents in about the preference for plants at maturation to be feeding off their own food stores versus the ones available in the soil

in natural ecosystems the living soil that feeds plants is biased by the environment and this bias is lacking in controlled environments

for example, the cold weather in the fall that slows down microbial activity which in turn effects the plant doesn't exist indoor yet I desire the plant to mimic the effects from the same natural life cycle.

so needless to say I like to starve my plants (non-tropical) a bit towards the end of flower because i want to replicate the natural process that occurs, i want them to experience seasonal change and I want them to show it.

I have been experimenting with various organic methods (mixtures of amendments and teas) to achieve this end. Basically lowering the amendments and finishing with teas but that is the basic gist

however it remains a matter of preference having spent many years comparing the differentials

the real question in my mind becomes is the risk of underfed plants worth the benefit of the fade for most smokers? no probably not

for me it is
 

minds_I

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Hello all,

Well, I have got to say that some of you are bound to complicate the shit out of a simple process.

I used a commonly accepted organic soilless mix with amendments. It is mostly LC's mix with chicken/worm (50/50) compost and recipe #1 for amendments.

I feed a 50/50 chicken/worm bubbled compost tea with molasses once a week.

No problems at all thus far except a PM issue on one plant that is under "control".

The more you complicate the plumbing, the easier it is to clog the drain.

Should have done organics years ago but you live and you learn.

minds_I


Oh, and you do not need to flush orgaincs.
 

wonderful

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thanks guys for your great responces. im glad to know that you think i had too much nitrogen because i was definately watering a lot of ewc aact into those pots it seemed like.
and no kings kush does not always taste like cooking oil! i ahd one phenotype that was sooo tastey like og kush mixed with oranges! would love to grow that pheno again even though it was a small yield plant.
the curing method is probably the most right thing i could have done and wouldnt change it for anything! the same plant was hang dried and cured. and the buds from the "flu" curing method were at least 2 weeks father along in the cure if not more, and the color change was magnificient, the white widow had pink hues after it was done.
thanks again, great replies!
 

mudvaynefan

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Its important to employ critical thinking. Not only do I question that you know what guano really tastes like after its been in soil and water, and then after the molecules of said nute has been converted to usable form by bacteria, and then absorbed thru the roots, and trans-located? to the buds/leaf???? I question as well, your reasoning for leaving wet vegetative plant matter to sit in the dark for a week.
 

Neo 420

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Guys.. no lie.....
I can taste the bone meal, blood meal and kelp in my buds. Its like a party in my mouth, that no one wants to go to....
 
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TribalSeeds

thanks guys for your great responces. im glad to know that you think i had too much nitrogen because i was definately watering a lot of ewc aact into those pots it seemed like.
and no kings kush does not always taste like cooking oil! i ahd one phenotype that was sooo tastey like og kush mixed with oranges! would love to grow that pheno again even though it was a small yield plant.
the curing method is probably the most right thing i could have done and wouldnt change it for anything! the same plant was hang dried and cured. and the buds from the "flu" curing method were at least 2 weeks father along in the cure if not more, and the color change was magnificient, the white widow had pink hues after it was done.
thanks again, great replies!


Well whats the problem then? Obviously it was the traditional method of curing herb that is to blame! The molded weed was bomb!
 

wonderful

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Its important to employ critical thinking. Not only do I question that you know what guano really tastes like after its been in soil and water, and then after the molecules of said nute has been converted to usable form by bacteria, and then absorbed thru the roots, and trans-located? to the buds/leaf???? I question as well, your reasoning for leaving wet vegetative plant matter to sit in the dark for a week.

i did it because people said it made buds both more tasty and potent. and in m experience it did
 

VerdantGreen

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so needless to say I like to starve my plants (non-tropical) a bit towards the end of flower because i want to replicate the natural process that occurs, i want them to experience seasonal change and I want them to show it.

I have been experimenting with various organic methods (mixtures of amendments and teas) to achieve this end. Basically lowering the amendments and finishing with teas but that is the basic gist

however it remains a matter of preference having spent many years comparing the differentials

the real question in my mind becomes is the risk of underfed plants worth the benefit of the fade for most smokers? no probably not

for me it is

i would agree with this (although i know many here wouldnt)
i prefer to mix my soil so that the plants get short of nutrients towards the late middle/end of flowering to help encourage the plant to use the reserves stored in it's leaves. Whilst many plants will fade naturally of their own accord, i find that this process can be helped along to some extent so that all the plants finish having lost most of their green colour.
as a result my buds taste great pretty much as soon as they are properly dry and maybe a day or two in a jar to even out the moisture... no cure needed. (although a cure may still help potency a little)

in truth their must be an element of balance here. to claim that the plant takes 'exactly what it wants and no more' is flawed... because the plants shown by the OP have obviously taken too much... given a chance plants will (imo) uptake too many nutrients when available (just like our bodies will store fat that is unwanted to us in modern society)

whether this is because the plant is storing nutrients for a future where it may not have enough .. or whether the roots cant avoid absorbing nutrients once they get above a certain concentration in the soil, is a question i would love the answer to.

VG
 

ixnay007

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i would agree with this (although i know many here wouldnt)
i prefer to mix my soil so that the plants get short of nutrients towards the late middle/end of flowering to help encourage the plant to use the reserves stored in it's leaves. Whilst many plants will fade naturally of their own accord, i find that this process can be helped along to some extent so that all the plants finish having lost most of their green colour.
as a result my buds taste great pretty much as soon as they are properly dry and maybe a day or two in a jar to even out the moisture... no cure needed. (although a cure may still help potency a little)

in truth their must be an element of balance here. to claim that the plant takes 'exactly what it wants and no more' is flawed... because the plants shown by the OP have obviously taken too much... given a chance plants will (imo) uptake too many nutrients when available (just like our bodies will store fat that is unwanted to us in modern society)

whether this is because the plant is storing nutrients for a future where it may not have enough .. or whether the roots cant avoid absorbing nutrients once they get above a certain concentration in the soil, is a question i would love the answer to.

VG
The second, osmotic pressure and salts. Some plants have the ability to stop taking up urea (an ancient trait to stop them from being poisoned if an animal urinated on it, though it has it's limits) but it's something a plant can't do for a long period of time, because it stops taking up pretty much everything, water included.
 

h.h.

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The second, osmotic pressure and salts. Some plants have the ability to stop taking up urea (an ancient trait to stop them from being poisoned if an animal urinated on it, though it has it's limits) but it's something a plant can't do for a long period of time, because it stops taking up pretty much everything, water included.
The same reason chemically fertilized plants can taste like shit or that dioxin works Plants can take up what they don't need.
To the OP...Good ewc and over watering with properly made aact should not be a problem unless you're using the guano in the aact in which case it isn't being properly made.
 
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