a little help with the og's please.

[guy fawkes]

Well, in an attempt to answer the original post, this is the best I can offer. OG comes out of Chem/Dawg and Diesel lineage, but what created the original seed(s) is a total mystery to just about everyone. The versions I can figure to be the oldest cuts are the Fire OG (Raskal's cut), Larry, and Tahoe. The SFV has been around for a while but not nearly as long as those other three. The SFV (clone only version) comes from Swerve, a grower turned breeder, but where he found his cut is somewhat of a mystery. The SFV may be the best yielder of them all with rather large, round, chunky golf ball type nugs, but I have always found the flavor to be just a bit lacking. The Larry is a rather lemony cut, that grows long and lanky, again with rather nice round chunks of nugs. The Tahoe is probably the most indica dominant, however its buds are somewhat long and foxtail-esque. It is still a lanky plant, but more squat than the Larry. My favorite is the Fire cut, it is the most well rounded in effect, offering an even head and body effect. The buds are round, the tops can become a series of buds stacked on top of each other, and they are incredibly frosty. As you can see tall, lanky plants are typical, and their distinctive leaf pattern gives them away. They start with a very distinct three bladed leaf, it kind of looks like a dinosaur footprint, and even near the top the leaves often only have 5 blades. I did not get into the Abusive or Ghost cuts as my experience with them is very limited, but they are also rather old cuts. Then there are the Poison, Soul Assassin Crew, and Hell's Angels Cut, again, I have very limited experience with these and they all seem to have appeared later in the mix. I hope this has answered some of the questions you had. There are tons of OG varieties out there and more every day.

cheers mate, some great input there, tbh up untill a year ago i only thought there were larry, sfv and tahoe, i used to think bubba was part of the og family to lmao. im looking forward to one day trying some fire and larry hybrids as these seem top be the one's that keep popping up

 

[guy fawkes]

I just ordered all of the Rare Dankness packs Im curious how they are going to turn out they look dope..

i hate going on there site i want everything lol, im very tempted to save up and invest in his ogk collection
the missus would kill me if she found out though lol

 

[Smoking Gun]

cheers mate, some great input there, tbh up untill a year ago i only thought there were larry, sfv and tahoe, i used to think bubba was part of the og family to lmao. im looking forward to one day trying some fire and larry hybrids as these seem top be the one's that keep popping up

I can honestly say I haven't had the OG hybrids, just a lot of the OG's that were floating around Cali a few years back. The Fire always came out on top for me, with Tahoe being a close second. I would highly suggest working with Rasksl's gear, he used his fire cut for most of his OG crosses and since that is my favorite cut I would personally work with it first, plus Raskal is a good guy.

I never understood how people assume that Bubba and OG are related. They look nothing like each other, they smell nothing like each other, their taste are wholly different and their effects are also completely different. The only thing similar between them is the name kush, and only the Bubba actually has any real kush in there; OG has no kush genetics in there, as far as anyone can tell. Anyway, glad I could help.

 

[guy fawkes]

I can honestly say I haven't had the OG hybrids, just a lot of the OG's that were floating around Cali a few years back. The Fire always came out on top for me, with Tahoe being a close second. I would highly suggest working with Rasksl's gear, he used his fire cut for most of his OG crosses and since that is my favorite cut I would personally work with it first, plus Raskal is a good guy.

I never understood how people assume that Bubba and OG are related. They look nothing like each other, they smell nothing like each other, their taste are wholly different and their effects are also completely different. The only thing similar between them is the name kush, and only the Bubba actually has any real kush in there; OG has no kush genetics in there, as far as anyone can tell. Anyway, glad I could help.

i think its just the whole cali kush scene is very confusing.. everythings a kush lol , thanks for the input

 

[Smoking Gun]

i think its just the whole cali kush scene is very confusing.. everythings a kush lol , thanks for the input

Yeah, kush did start to get tagged onto every strain. I used to simply just remove the kush and to me that was the name of the weed. The moniker kush was just a way to sell herb for higher prices. However OG Kush was named long before the kush craze started to hit. That is also why you see all the OG crosses using OG to finish the name, not kush. This is why integrity in this field is desperately needed.

 

[RaNgEr RiCk]

Yeah, kush did start to get tagged onto every strain. I used to simply just remove the kush and to me that was the name of the weed. The moniker kush was just a way to sell herb for higher prices. However OG Kush was named long before the kush craze started to hit. That is also why you see all the OG crosses using OG to finish the name, not kush. This is why integrity in this field is desperately needed.

So this would mean that my Jedi "kush" should really be called Jedi OG. Which is what I have seen it referred as. Either way the father of Jedi is Swerves SFV OG. Integrity is needed, and thanks for the info guys!

 

[MrSterling]

I never understood how people assume that Bubba and OG are related. They look nothing like each other, they smell nothing like each other, their taste are wholly different and their effects are also completely different. The only thing similar between them is the name kush, and only the Bubba actually has any real kush in there; OG has no kush genetics in there, as far as anyone can tell. Anyway, glad I could help.

Because the original clone-only Bubba from NorCal probably had OG Kush in it: http://en.**********.eu/strain-info/Bubba_Kush/Clone_Only_Strains/ Oy, filtration. Seeed Finder.

Rare Dankness' Lost Creek has Bubba in it, and he organizes it with all his OG crosses - http://raredankness.com/Seeds/KUSH/LostCreek.htm

But here we are again, talking about strain origins we can't ever really know.

 

[DIDM]

he couldnt have meant 20 weeks flower???? could he? Ive never heard of such a long flowering strain.

there are Sativas that take a lifetime to flower. You could never do them indoors, you would get pissed every time the power bill came and you still had months to go

 

[headimonster]

Because the original clone-only Bubba from NorCal probably had OG Kush in it: http://en.**********.eu/strain-info/Bubba_Kush/Clone_Only_Strains/ Oy, filtration. Seeed Finder.

Rare Dankness' Lost Creek has Bubba in it, and he organizes it with all his OG crosses - http://raredankness.com/Seeds/KUSH/LostCreek.htm

But here we are again, talking about strain origins we can't ever really know.

Bubba and Og are related thru the old world paki kush - ...----

 

[guy fawkes]

Hmm the plot thickens... lol,

 

[guy fawkes]

I just ordered all of the Rare Dankness packs Im curious how they are going to turn out they look dope..

lucky git!! im not jelous.. much..

 

[guy fawkes]

there are Sativas that take a lifetime to flower. You could never do them indoors, you would get pissed every time the power bill came and you still had months to go

esp with the wattage needed to get the best from them , ive found myself asking why i do it quite often, then come smoking time all my questions are answerd

 

[Smoking Gun]

Because the original clone-only Bubba from NorCal probably had OG Kush in it: http://en.**********.eu/strain-info/Bubba_Kush/Clone_Only_Strains/ Oy, filtration. Seeed Finder.

Rare Dankness' Lost Creek has Bubba in it, and he organizes it with all his OG crosses - http://raredankness.com/Seeds/KUSH/LostCreek.htm

But here we are again, talking about strain origins we can't ever really know.

From everything I have seen Bubba is a Master Kush/Bubblegum cross that originally came out of the South East (USA). This is why some cuts had to be labeled 'Pre '98' as there were knock-offs and alternate cuts that showed up afterwards.

I have always questioned any story that says OG came from the west coast. All the other big names from the Chem/Dawg family seemed to have shown up on the east coast first. I was smoking on Diesel back in '99-'00, just as it was gaining real popularity. [On a side note, I am pretty sure it was some east coast slang that gave Diesel its name.] Chem (the man) was based on the east coast in the 90's as he was finding the seeds that gave birth to the Chem/Dawg line and the mystery and myths surrounding them. So I still stand by the statement that Bubba and Chem are wholly unrelated.

 

[Jaymer]

Don't breeders tame bubba katsu with the og? I think she looks like a high mountainous dry kush, well suited, but not the same- if my two bubba s1 pan out they could go hang with the reaper ogees

 

[Smoking Gun]

So this would mean that my Jedi "kush" should really be called Jedi OG. Which is what I have seen it referred as. Either way the father of Jedi is Swerves SFV OG. Integrity is needed, and thanks for the info guys!

Yeah, it doesn't really matter, I too have seen it both ways. Another on is Skywalker OG, there was a Skywalker strain before anyone added OG to it. In fact there was a variety named Jedi long before the Jedi OG was around. All these "breeder" who chuck pollen once and call their plant a strain rarely do their research to find out if there was already a strain with the name they are calling their plant, adding yet more confusion to the history of Cannabis strains; not to mention just adding kush or OG to the name to make it sell for more money. The longer we keep going on like this, and the less integrity in our community, the harder it gets to actually trace any genetic lineages.

 

[guy fawkes]

From everything I have seen Bubba is a Master Kush/Bubblegum cross that originally came out of the South East (USA). This is why some cuts had to be labeled 'Pre '98' as there were knock-offs and alternate cuts that showed up afterwards.

I have always questioned any story that says OG came from the west coast. All the other big names from the Chem/Dawg family seemed to have shown up on the east coast first. I was smoking on Diesel back in '99-'00, just as it was gaining real popularity. [On a side note, I am pretty sure it was some east coast slang that gave Diesel its name.] Chem (the man) was based on the east coast in the 90's as he was finding the seeds that gave birth to the Chem/Dawg line and the mystery and myths surrounding them. So I still stand by the statement that Bubba and Chem are wholly unrelated.

I thought bubba was LA affie x paki kush? no bubblgum.

 

[Smoking Gun]

I have heard that too, there is no good way to find out definitely these days. I could believe both stories as the LA Affie was definitely used by DNA to make their LA Confidential and there is a distinct similarity between LA Con and Bubba. However if Bubba did come out of the southeast, which given the name seems totally possible, I would assume that the Master was used. But it is also possible that the LA Affie also has some of those Master Kush genes, which would explain the similarities of Bubba and LA Con.

 

[maryjaneismyfre]

All I know is the only bud on IC or on the net that looks anything near the OG I've have seen with my eyes grown in no special way, is the pics posted by five legged-goat of 'Decap'. I know nothing about OG. I have though seen it in person, grown far away on a far away dark continent. The crew that run the real deal in States are rapping gangsters and the real cut is hoarded as well as others that come out a special seedlot. Anything that comes out of these real pre what ever OG bla bla this kush that kush, completely pisses on anything you've seen before. One hit bong and people pass out next to the toilet puking. This is real, I've seen this weed, it doesn't need to be trimmed. Its' crystal on fan leaves pisses on the crystal covering on most elite buds' calyx's. Apparently even though the real nigga gangsta's control the real shit (connected to greencrack too?) OG does stand for 'Ocean Grown' cuz it was sold in Atlanta or somewhere originally far away, but OG's ran it to the streets so hence the confusion.
All picks I've seen of any kush all over the web, except almost but not quite some 'the white' strains, don't even resemble the crystal covering of what I've been shown. Apparently there are pheno's of OG that are kept as cuts from germinations of 'magic lot' that the public has never seen, never been sold and that are just too strong and smell like overpowering faeces as well as others.

When I see all the OG's available, I must guess that most are many, many generations removed from a real cut. From the pictures I mean..Even swerve got one removed a generation or 2 apparently. I also as stated before, know hardly any OG lore and don't know the plant. I do know someone who knows someone, who knows it intimately. I have seen and smoked it and we laugh how most people in America have never seen the real thing growing. just in a dime bag. It PISSES on seedbank offerings really. It is a joke how dank this stuff is. Look at decap, that is OG in some backcrossed form or something, when U the pics of decap it its like F there it is. From what I hear a certain valley is where real cuts also reside, but i've never even been to the country before, nevermind the state of Cali.

 

[Smoking Gun]

All I know is the only bud on IC or on the net that looks anything near the OG I've have seen with my eyes grown in no special way, is the pics posted by five legged-goat of 'Decap'. I know nothing about OG. I have though seen it in person, grown far away on a far away dark continent. The crew that run the real deal in States are rapping gangsters and the real cut is hoarded as well as others that come out a special seedlot. Anything that comes out of these real pre what ever OG bla bla this kush that kush, completely pisses on anything you've seen before. One hit bong and people pass out next to the toilet puking. This is real, I've seen this weed, it doesn't need to be trimmed. Its' crystal on fan leaves pisses on the crystal covering on most elite buds' calyx's. Apparently even though the real nigga gangsta's control the real shit (connected to greencrack too?) OG does stand for 'Ocean Grown' cuz it was sold in Atlanta or somewhere originally far away, but OG's ran it to the streets so hence the confusion.
All picks I've seen of any kush all over the web, except almost but not quite some 'the white' strains, don't even resemble the crystal covering of what I've been shown. Apparently there are pheno's of OG that are kept as cuts from germinations of 'magic lot' that the public has never seen, never been sold and that are just too strong and smell like overpowering faeces as well as others.

When I see all the OG's available, I must guess that most are many, many generations removed from a real cut. From the pictures I mean..Even swerve got one removed a generation or 2 apparently. I also as stated before, know hardly any OG lore and don't know the plant. I do know someone who knows someone, who knows it intimately. I have seen and smoked it and we laugh how most people in America have never seen the real thing growing. just in a dime bag. It PISSES on seedbank offerings really. It is a joke how dank this stuff is. Look at decap, that is OG in some backcrossed form or something, when U the pics of decap it its like F there it is. From what I hear a certain valley is where real cuts also reside, but i've never even been to the country before, nevermind the state of Cali.

For someone who says they know nothing about OG you sure have a lot to say on the issue. And you know a guy who knows a guy? Really? The valley you are referring to is probably Potter Valley, this seems to be a place where many high quality strains still reside. The other option is San Fernando Valley, this is where many of the Cali dispensaries are located; but if you ask me it is SFV that has caused much of the confusion.

Just a question for you, why would you come on a thread where someone is trying to find info and post that you have none?

 

[maryjaneismyfre]

Just had to say FYI and all.. 2 degrees removed is close enough to have seen and smoked it first hand.. Not for the faint hearted The closest I got to it before was a really good LA con and I thought yeah kush bla bla and carried on oblivious.. I'm on a whole other side of the world so I cannot claim to be any authority. But. Maybe a year ago.. without saying too much because there are heavies involved at the top of the kush..and maybe these kats that know who I know aren't supposed to have it. I saw this bud which just set new benchmarks for me. Not a single leaf trimmed off and you wouldn't want to. Look at the pics of decap. Yeah I just hear stories and pass them on. But that is all I gotta say haha just I have seen it, it is real..