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Wasn't being a "dink" just callin it like I see it, LOL!
I just find it funny that the "Experts" here have no idea that Cal/Mag in tap water (calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate), is totally useless to fast growing plants like cannabis
"Calcium and magnesium are also the most abundant minerals in tap water. The majority of the PPM, or EC reading, you obtain from a measuring device is cal-mag. The most typical form of these minerals in your untreated water is calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate. Contrary to popular belief these forms are unusable by plants, particularly fast growing plants. The molecules of these compounds are far too large and immobile to be absorbed by the roots and transported to where the plant needs them. Relying on the cal-mag in tap water can lead to many problems for this reason."
And Like I said, bottled Cal/Mag sucks, and I would never ever use that shit.
Maxibloom has PLENTY of Cal/mag in it, the most I ever do is a 1/2 gram per gal. epsom salts every third feeding or so.
I just find it funny that the "Experts" here have no idea that Cal/Mag in tap water (calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate), is totally useless to fast growing plants like cannabis
"Calcium and magnesium are also the most abundant minerals in tap water. The majority of the PPM, or EC reading, you obtain from a measuring device is cal-mag. The most typical form of these minerals in your untreated water is calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate. Contrary to popular belief these forms are unusable by plants, particularly fast growing plants. The molecules of these compounds are far too large and immobile to be absorbed by the roots and transported to where the plant needs them. Relying on the cal-mag in tap water can lead to many problems for this reason."
And Like I said, bottled Cal/Mag sucks, and I would never ever use that shit.
Maxibloom has PLENTY of Cal/mag in it, the most I ever do is a 1/2 gram per gal. epsom salts every third feeding or so.
SomeOldGuy
Member
Wasn't being a "dink" just callin it like I see it, LOL!
I just find it funny that the "Experts" here have no idea that Cal/Mag in tap water (calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate), is totally useless to fast growing plants like cannabis
"Calcium and magnesium are also the most abundant minerals in tap water. The majority of the PPM, or EC reading, you obtain from a measuring device is cal-mag. The most typical form of these minerals in your untreated water is calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate. Contrary to popular belief these forms are unusable by plants, particularly fast growing plants. The molecules of these compounds are far too large and immobile to be absorbed by the roots and transported to where the plant needs them. Relying on the cal-mag in tap water can lead to many problems for this reason."
And Like I said, bottled Cal/Mag sucks, and I would never ever use that shit.
Maxibloom has PLENTY of Cal/mag in it, the most I ever do is a 1/2 gram per gal. epsom salts every third feeding or so.
thank God you showed up to straighten us all out, ..we were lost but now we are found.
SomeOldGuy
Member
Listen Son, I dont grow in closets, and I think you and many here think you have game. But you dont
I just find it funny that the "Experts" here have no idea that Cal/Mag in tap water (calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate), is totally useless to fast growing plants like cannabis
"Calcium and magnesium are also the most abundant minerals in tap water. The majority of the PPM, or EC reading, you obtain from a measuring device is cal-mag. The most typical form of these minerals in your untreated water is calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate. Contrary to popular belief these forms are unusable by plants, particularly fast growing plants. The molecules of these compounds are far too large and immobile to be absorbed by the roots and transported to where the plant needs them. Relying on the cal-mag in tap water can lead to many problems for this reason."
And Like I said, bottled Cal/Mag sucks, and I would never ever use that shit.
Maxibloom has PLENTY of Cal/mag in it, the most I ever do is a 1/2 gram per gal. epsom salts every third feeding or so.
This advice jives with what I've gathered over the years.
Having also used Lucas with only R/O (Flora 3-part, Flora-Nova Bloom or Maxibloom)... I have to agree that the cal and mag are there and that I've never relied on tap water for it.
Only in the last few years am I seeing true mag deficiencies (edit: Due to mag hungry strains becoming more popularly used with breeders)... it used to be that all you saw were improper pH swings and nute strengths/ratios.
Cal/Mag is HEAVILY abused by many growers without them knowing it.
Stay Safe!
It's not really the 'truth' that we're finding offensive so much as your attitude of being so superior to all the rest of us. If you have information to offer, try to temper your sarcasm and uppity attitude and talk to us in a civil manner.
mgk
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Trolling/Flaming WILL NOT be tolerated!
Rusty Trichome
Member
Me too.
I've heard it through the grapevine, that perhaps that's why we depend on the micro-herds. They break-down the component nutrients, minerals, metals and salts, to a usable form the plants can uptake. (over-simplified, and perhaps over-generalized, but I'm a simple guy...generally)
MaxiBloom can be rough on some plants, (usually my sativa dominates) especially here in the heat of the desert. Since I mix different nutrients to different needs, (dilution strengths) I prefer the flexibility of the KoolBlom as an additive to my Tiger Bloom, so far. And a dash of unsulfered molasses. (carbs, iron, mag, calcium...) Molasses can take the place of CalMag Plus and any carbo-load product(s) one may use. I use less molasses and Tiger Bloom when using the KoolBloom, or I use less KoolBloom and Tiger Bloom because of the molasses. However you look at it, it's working pretty good, lol.
The bigger buds are Haze x Skunk, (2 weeks from harvest) tall ones are White Widow, (3.5 weeks into flower) the others are PokerFace. (3 weeks into flower for most)
Everything through the soil, never a foliar feeding, Fox Farms nutes, (about half-dose) KoolBloom additive, molasses. Keepin it simple, lol. (sort of)
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Guest 18340
Now that things have calmed down, lets address this.
Calcium Carbonate IS NOT useless to fast growing plants like Cannabis. Calcium Carbonate has to be broken down before the plant can use it. The soil growers who use Dolomite know all about this.
Calcium Nitrate is more readily available than C.Carbonate.
Cal/mag additives vary and one should read the label on the bottle as all Cal/mag additives are not created equally.
GH's Calimagic is Calcium Carbonate and Magnesium Nitrate.
Botanicare's Cal/mag is Calcium Nitrate and Magnesium Nitrate.
Notice how both brands use Magnesium Nitrate...
From my own experience, using RO water (without additives) gave me defs, tap water does not.
Btw, I grow in Coco
The above statement contradicts what I highlighted below...Cal/Mag sucks.
And thinkin you have Cal/Mag in your water cause you read a few PPM is Comical, you guys crack me up
I just find it funny that the "Experts" here have no idea that Cal/Mag in tap water (calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate), is totally useless to fast growing plants like cannabis
"Calcium and magnesium are also the most abundant minerals in tap water. The majority of the PPM, or EC reading, you obtain from measuring device is cal-mag. The most typical form of these minerals in your untreated water is calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate. Contrary to popular belief these forms are unusable by plants, particularly fast growing plants. The molecules of these compounds are far too large and immobile to be absorbed by the roots and transported to where the plant needs them. Relying on the cal-mag in tap water can lead to many problems for this reason."
And Like I said, bottled Cal/Mag sucks, and I would never ever use that shit.
Maxibloom has PLENTY of Cal/mag in it, the most I ever do is a 1/2 gram per gal. epsom salts every third feeding or so.
Calcium Carbonate IS NOT useless to fast growing plants like Cannabis. Calcium Carbonate has to be broken down before the plant can use it. The soil growers who use Dolomite know all about this.
Calcium Nitrate is more readily available than C.Carbonate.
Cal/mag additives vary and one should read the label on the bottle as all Cal/mag additives are not created equally.
GH's Calimagic is Calcium Carbonate and Magnesium Nitrate.
Botanicare's Cal/mag is Calcium Nitrate and Magnesium Nitrate.
Notice how both brands use Magnesium Nitrate...
From my own experience, using RO water (without additives) gave me defs, tap water does not.
Btw, I grow in Coco
And that is how you kick knowledge without being a dick, props man and thank you for clarifying.
:ayuh..
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You're very welcome guys.
Behind_The_Mask
Member
gettin a little heated in here lol 
Connoisseur Genetics GDP cut at day 68 fed only maxibloom with pro-tekt
Connoisseur Genetics GDP cut at day 68 fed only maxibloom with pro-tekt
