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40AmpstoFreedom

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That's my new organic mix Stihg I stopped using coco this round because I found it impossible to contain and control the pest I was having. When you take away the natural beneficials the bad pests seem to get even worse especially if they are root munchers. CoCo is awesome but not when you are trying to learn how to use it and have bugs ;\ I probably could have used it this time and had 100% success like my first run with it, but after so many failures due to bugs I chose to simply switch back and the plants that did grow 100% were not as crystal laden as my organics. I got nice yields still, but I think trichs and smell was effected. I still clone in coco right now though cuz of the ease, but Aero cloning no doubt is the best cloning method I have used yet and I will be starting to do that again this round as well.

I get the same roots out of flouros by the way too. I am using 3k hps and 2 4foot tek flouros for veggins right now and roots are just as good. Closer node spacing with flouros though as one would expect. I will take some pictures of my roots under flouros today if I transplant more and show how brilliant white they are. They are as white as mycelium is when colonizing a substrate.

When Miracle grow changed sources or the mixture of its organic mixes my roots went downhill compared tot he old mixture. Stringier, not as profuse, and more spread apart. I never had roots as thick as this time though they are almost as thick as spaghetti.

I start in solo cups and I do not like this mix because the ph is bad and it causes some leaf twisting and some plants it ran out of N too quick, but it worked. I will be making a new one next time:

2 cu ft. Fox Farm Ocean Forest
1 BAG b'cuzz CoCo

When its time to transplant to 6 inch and 1 gallon pots as well I use a stronger mix.

6 inch square pots and 1 gallon mix:

1 cu. ft. sunshine mix #4
1.5 cu. ft. foxfarm ocean forest
3 gal. horticultural perlite (the chunky stuff)
3/4 cup bonemeal
3/4 cup bloodmeal
1/4 cup dolomite lime
1/4 azomite
1/4 plant success mycorhizzae

3 gallon flowering mix (nix the perlite for flowering):

1 cu. ft. sunshine mix #4
1.5 cu. ft. foxfarm ocean forest
3 gal. horticultural perlite (the chunky stuff)
3/4 cup bonemeal
3/4 cup bloodmeal
1/4 cup dolomite lime
1/4 azomite
1/4 plant success mycorhizzae

And I have no doubt the Endo and Ecto mycorhizzae are an incredible help to my roots as well as the quality of the sunshine mix #4 and ratio of perlite that is already in it. The texture of the soil is incredibly light. I haven't flowered in it ye, but I expect it to be perfect and as good or better than when Miracle Grow was selling a decent product.

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Here are what my roots looked like on the Chemdog IBL's I am running this time too when they were ready for transplant to 1 gallons:

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I found an incredible company not too long ago as well and plan on buying their Endo and Ecto myco offerings as well as many of their organic supplies. They also have the most comprehensive list of beneficial bugs I have ever seen (been around since 1950).

http://www.rinconvitova.com/catalog-beneficials.htm

Go their website and check out the catalog...amazes me and one of my best finds since growing.

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Some of the good root stuff I will be using next time:

Mycorrhizal Fungi To
Re-Establish the Soil Food Web
Supplementing your soil with mycorrhizal inoculants will promote
a healthy root system, help plants survive environmental extremes
such as drought, salt, transplant, reduce disease and mobilize
nutrients. A healthy plant resists pests and disease.
Mycorrhizal fungi naturally colonize the roots of over 90% of the
world’s plant species. Most of these plants form associations with
endomycorrhizae, which enter the plant’s root cells, while some
partner with ectomycorrhizae, which grow between and around
root cells. Plants secrete sugars to support the mycorrhizae, the
fungi then increase the surface area of the roots by thousands of
times, giving the plant access to more water and nutrients. Fungi
also release chemicals that unlock minerals in the soil and produce
antibiotics making it hard for disease to enter the plant.
Overall soil structure improves when there is a healthy population
of mycorrhizae, becoming more porous and holding water
better. Chemicals commonly used in farming, such as fertilizers,
pesticides, and fungicides, as well as intensive cultivation and
erosion, can damage the mycorrhizae that normally inhabit soil.
RVI offers endo, and endo-ecto products in dry granular form.
These don’t mix well with water, but can be suspended in a
slurry for a root dip. Our ecto and micronized endo-ecto can be
suspended for drip or drench application. The tablets are handy for
pots and planting holes.
Endomycorrhizae help all plants that originated in the temperate
and suptropic areas including apples, corn, tomatoes, and wheat.
Plants not helped are: heath, pine, oak, birch, sedge, rush, orchid,
protea, mustard (crucifers), carnation, beet (chenopods), cabbage,
eucalyptus.
Ectomycorrhizae help most of the plants not helped by
endomycorrhizae, including pine and oaks.

ENDO/ECTO PLUS
MYCORRHIZAL INOCULANT
Four species of endomycorrhizae, 5
ectomycorrhizae species, beneficial
Trichoderma fungus spores and
biostimulants. Contains Glomus
intraradices, G. mosseae, G. aggregatum,
G. etunicatum (endomycorrhizae
- 20,000 propagules/lb), Rhizopogon villosullus, R. luteolus, R.
amylopogon, R. fulvigleba, Pisolithus tinctorius, Scleroderma cepa, S.
citrinum (ectomycorrhizae - 110 million propagules/lb), Trichoderma
koningii, T. harzianum (trichoderma fungus - 150 million CFU/lb),
kelp, fulvic acid, humic acid, vitamins, amino acids.
Use 1 Tbs on 1 gal transplants, 1/4-1/2 tsp on small plants and cuttings, dust on seeds,
bury 1-2 oz in holes around established plants, mix with organic fertilizer to vertical mulch
trees.
MAENEC+# / pound / (1.3 lb) N
per pound.......... 32.00
5+ pounds......... 17.60
10+ pounds...... 14.90
20+ pounds...... 13.50
40+ pounds...... 12.00
120+ pounds.... 10.50

MICROBE NUTRIENTS
Dry food for bacteria and fungi. Good to
use with Defensor, Rhizoboost, or other
inoculants. When bacteria have plenty of
the basic food needed to actively multiply
they produce slime, which helps them
stick to plant leaves or roots. Microbe
Nutrients help microbial inoculants to fill their valuable roles
in the soil food web, establishing protective slime zones that
suppress pathogens and exuding nutrients that help plants
grow better. Organic. Contains dextrose (glucose), brewers
yeast, and humic acid.
NUTRIENT2 / 2 pound / (2.1 lb) N
per bag.............. 12.00
5+ bags............. 9.00
10+ bags........... 7.50
NUTRIENT8 / 8 pound / (8.2 lb) N
per bag.............. 25.00
5+ bags............. 18.20
NUTRIENT40 / 40 pound / (40.2 lb) N
per bag................ 79.00
5+ bags............... 69.00

RHIZOBOOST
Rhizoboost is a liquid microbial soil inoculant
that enhances biodiversity and discourages
growth of undesirable microorganisms in the
soil. The bacteria are naturally occurring (non
GMO) and have been selected for their high
degree of competitiveness. Field trials over
the last 13 years demonstrate higher yields,
lower disease and improved soil structure
compared to untreated control plots. Contains Bacillus licheniformis,
B. chitinosporus, and two strains of B. laterosporus. Spore count of 1
trillion CFU/gal. Nontoxic to people, animals, plants. No REI.
RHIZOBST4OZ / 4 ounce / (0.6 lb) N
per bottle........... 3.80
RHIZOBSTQT / quart / (2.3 lb) N
per quart........... 18.50
6+ quarts.......... 13.50
12+ quarts........ 11.00
RHIZOBSTG / gallon / (9.4 lb) N
per gallon.......... 39.00
5+ gallons......... 34.00
25+ gallons....... 29.50
RHIZOBSTDR / 55 gallon / (465 lb) N S
per drum............ 1,580.00
 

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Alright were blastin off :D

Every leaf in this picture is White Berry Kush. Thick ass chunky leaves like the buds will be :D I love the branching on these much more sturdy than ogk is. I really like to run them topped and you can see why in the photos. The plants are very uniform you can tell them apart with ease from other thing sin the room. I had these next to many BS 2.2 and it was impossible to mistake as the OGK is very vivid in every plant. The smells are ridiculous for those of you growing these out rub the male stems you have; mine are 20-24 inches tall and REEK. Every male I have is stinky just like the females. The smell they leave on my hands is awesome very dank/funky sweet ogk smell.


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Here they all are it is day 2 flowering for these there are 7 more still vegging another week or two. I have 4 females and 4 males currently.

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40Amps, those roots are looking real nice... the endomycorrhizae are undoubtedly helping, but I'm pretty damn sure ectomycorrhizae do not establish associations with Cannabis roots. Ectomycorrhizae are highly host specific and are usually form sybioses with the roots of woody perennials. Certain species/strains of Trichoderma is reported to form ectomycorrhizal associations with certain host plants, but it's more widely considered a saprophyte. Ectomycorrhizal inoculation is akin to inoculation with N-fixing Rhizobium in that these microbes will not form direct associations with Cannabis roots.
 
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You know I just found a company that will ship me specific ones and that is good to know I could just buy the endo. You definitely see it all over the roots and throughout the soil, even when you are 'cooking' the soil.

I never noticed it but here is what a company says about theirs I was about to purchase:

Endomycorrhizae help all plants that originated in the temperate
and suptropic areas including apples, corn, tomatoes, and wheat.
Plants not helped are: heath, pine, oak, birch, sedge, rush, orchid,
protea, mustard (crucifers), carnation, beet (chenopods), cabbage,
eucalyptus.
Ectomycorrhizae help most of the plants not helped by
endomycorrhizae, including pine and oaks.

Thanks for info.
 
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If you can find an inoculum mix with (or reasonably priced isolated culture of) Piriformospora indica you should definitely go with that one. It is a very valuable soil fungi that harbors an obligate endobacteria that produces auxin.
 

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Need testers for the Berry Sour Creme AKA Satellite Fuel. I am limited so those who apply please be able to document with pictures and start a thread by the end of April.

A.K.A. Satellite Fuel, is a cross between an incredibly pungent Reservoir Galadriel male (Sourdiesel x C99) and Spice of Life’s Bluebonic (BS 2.2 x DJ Short Blueberry). The smell is quite similar to how blueberries and sour creme or a blueberry yogurt would smell. Pungent and ready to sell after only a couple of days in the jar for cure.

The seeds should be at the bay by the end of next week. I mixed them all and made every packet 20 seeds. Since there were germ problems my math says that each pack should give 15 viable seeds. If you want to wait for seed lot that is done correctly I am making a new batch this run mom goes into flower in a week. These beans are for those who don't want to wait. There will be 30 packs of 20 seeds for sale on the bay and they will be listed as Berry Sour Creme.

Just let me know who wants to test by posting in this thread a link to a good grow of yours and how you will be growing them.

The WBK's are growing great and the LOK's and 6 WBK's are still vegging probably until the 5th of next month 10th at the latest they will be flowered. Healthiest garden I have had in awhile.
 
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Hi 40Amps,

Are these available at the seedbay? I just ask because you say 'bou' in the post.

Thanks.
 
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Thanks, just checking. lol

Hey, is the plant on page 1 the actual Berry Sour Creme/ Satellite fuel? The seeds that you send in have the same exact parents?

I was a little confused, i thought that the plant on page one was the mother plant (Blubonic).
 

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The first series of plant pictures for the first couple of posts of mine I show in the thread is the offspring you can expect from my cross I have also post in this thread the parents used on one of the pages.

This is the offspring you want to look for. My keeper is crowned by purple at the top that increases throughout flowering day 40 on. Super dense nugs and the smell is unmistakeable in flowering like berry sour creme very unique you will know it immediately and it will make you smile and come back in the room repeatedly to smell for fun. Very creamy and sweet. It reeks in the jar and is ready in a couple of days...

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Yea just look in untested section on the bay I will keep in contact with Clarence to give a heads up when they land.
 

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Well I got a video smoke report from a member here for S. Fuel:

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lol nah I would probably pull it :p

Just wanted to say I have enough testers now and thanks to those who offered.
 
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