Is OGK still the most sought after cut(s) on the boards? ?

[420247]

He knows a lot about phenos, enough to know that a plant, even a polyhybrid, isn't going to display the variations that he's seen advertised as OG. He's saying that a clone, or even an S1 wouldn't show that much variety.

He's also saying that OG has developed a mystique which people are assigning to all sorts of plants, some of which have nothing to do with the original..Yeah, which, if you read, was exactly what he's saying is happening.He knows this. He's collaborating with Tom Hill, do you think he hasn't seen the real deal?The problem is finding out who really knows, and who is faking the funk.. which is why he's working on DNA testing to remove any doubt..

Guys we can tell you that TK does well inside with X parameters, we can tell you that SFV does best outside @ 40n, we can tell you which is most homozygous for breeding purposes. We can tell you plenty you never had any clue about, and deliver exactly what your situation calls for. -T

Jorge and I had this conversation over and over again as we visited different growers, dispensaries etc etc..... and finally- it came to me; that OG Kush is no longer a single plant (an individual), or even a family (since all 'the original's are clearly not all related), or even a smell profile. OG Kush is a philosophy, a way of life, a state of mind or even a state of being. It's a religion. It's grown past what was once a single plant, to a collection of unrelated hybrids, that don't necessarily even share the same/similar terpene profile.

Are you guys trying to dig Chimera out of the hole his words put himself into?

I dont give a fuck how you wanna say it... His words were bullshit in that post... And you cant fix that Tom

What Church of OG do you go to? hahahaha What a joke!

 

[420247]

Here is something fun... In this picture I have more than one type of OG Kush from cuttings... If as Chimera says is true...

"It's grown past what was once a single plant, to a collection of unrelated hybrids, that don't necessarily even share the same/similar terpene profile."

You should be able to clearly see these plants are NOT related... So I ask anybody here... How are the OG cuts on the left different from the ones on the right?

I wish I had planted the Tahoe in here too... Would have been even more fun

Unrelated my ass

Hell, I had more variation from the seeds I bought from Chimera than from my OG cuts hahahahaha

Take care

 

[ixnay007]

Are you guys trying to dig Chimera out of the hole his words put himself into?

I dont give a fuck how you wanna say it... His words were bullshit in that post... And you cant fix that Tom

What Church of OG do you go to? hahahaha What a joke!

Are you really that dense?

OG Kush is hype, hype based on something that most people would agree is top quality cannabis, but it's no longer that plant you're growing, it's an idea, a meme, it's an interchangeable word for dank.

That's what he's talking about. It still exists, but what it represents as an idea is much more than the clone you're growing.

 

[420247]

It must look so different seeing things from the outside looking in

Are you really that dense?

OG Kush is hype, hype based on something that most people would agree is top quality cannabis, but it's no longer that plant you're growing, it's an idea, a meme, it's an interchangeable word for dank.

That's what he's talking about. It still exists, but what it represents as an idea is much more than the clone you're growing.

This is bullshit!

OG Kush is OG Kush

Is Skunk#1 just hype or just an idea?

Is Blueberry just hype or just an idea?

Is Haze just hype or just an idea?

Is Northern Lights just hype or just an idea?

There are many fakes out there to these but that doesnt make them any less real does it? Or just "an interchangeable word for dank"?

My pictures are not "hype" or just an "idea"... Its a family of plants... Named OG Kush... Like if you grew 10 C4 seeds and had 4 females, they may not all look the same but they're still C4

Just because people fuck around does not mean OG Kush is no more... It is real, it does exist... Maybe not in your garden... But that does not make it fantasy

 

[stihgnobevoli]

i see you busy fanboying, and imma let you finish, but kush is the biggest hype of all time, of alllllll timmmmeee!!

kush is the new "dro"

i doubt you understand what we're trying to tell you yet so ill just wait for your next reply about how you have all the different original og kush. hopefully with pics.

also haze and nl are also just like kush now, i mean even haze originally was just a collection of random sativa blended together, nl is a bunch of indica's crafted together. blueberry and skunk you can tell by their smell and taste, but even these days those are also like kush. but nothing is as popular as kush is for this long. i don't even remember the last time i heard any weed be as popular as kush is except for when sour diesel was new, but even now that shit has faded back and kush is king of hype machines.

 

[420247]

ignorance is bliss

ignorance is bliss

i see you busy fanboying, and imma let you finish, but kush is the biggest hype of all time, of alllllll timmmmeee!!

kush is the new "dro"

i doubt you understand what we're trying to tell you yet so ill just wait for your next reply about how you have all the different original og kush. hopefully with pics.

also haze and nl are also just like kush now, i mean even haze originally was just a collection of random sativa blended together, nl is a bunch of indica's crafted together. blueberry and skunk you can tell by their smell and taste, but even these days those are also like kush. but nothing is as popular as kush is for this long. i don't even remember the last time i heard any weed be as popular as kush is except for when sour diesel was new, but even now that shit has faded back and kush is king of hype machines.

Really? Are you just angry because its popular? hahahaha

I dont have any plants named "original og kush"... Thats for dumbass vendors to trick dumbasses

I have a little collection of the OG Kush family... I do not have all of them and I do not want all of them... I am happy and grateful to have what I have

Please post some pictures of the OG Kush plants you have grown...

As I have posted before...

Talk is cheap

 

[Veg N Out]

OG Kush and Bubba Kush been the "In Demand" strains in Cali since 1995...Almost 20 years of "Hype" !!

 

[nomaad]

OG=not hype.

If this is your opinion, I am sorry. You have been a victim of the very hype that OG is not.

I run two Og's and they are barely discernible from one another in veg and have obvious similarities in flower despite some obvious differences. I can tell them apart easily but their shared genetics are obvious.

 

[Tom Hill]

Are you guys trying to dig Chimera out of the hole his words put himself into?

I dont give a fuck how you wanna say it... His words were bullshit in that post... And you cant fix that Tom

What Church of OG do you go to? hahahaha What a joke!

All he was saying 420247 was that it's all just one giant clusterfuck now and could use some straightening out. I get it, his words were lost on you, but not on everybody. Chimera certainly doesn't need me to dig him out of anything lol.

 

[420247]

All he was saying 420247 was that it's all just one giant clusterfuck now and could use some straightening out. I get it, his words were lost on you, but not on everybody. Chimera certainly doesn't need me to dig him out of anything lol.

Wow! I sure didnt get that interpretation I agree! Some "straightening out" would be interesting Thank you for the clarification Tom

Hey Morphote,

While I agree with what you are saying, I think you missed my point.. and upon reading my 'joking' poke at OG - perhaps I wasn't clear.

As you know I was just in California, and visited with many different groups, dispensaries and chemical analytical labs. Among the dozens and dozens of growers I met with, about 15 of them had "The original OG". Some of them clearly didn't have AN OG plant, but were just passed clones from something labelled as OG by a dispensary who had no idea what they were selling (I can show you pics of a 23 foot tall sativa structured skunk lineage (IME) growing over the roof of a barn, with weeks to go until harvest and this was October 28th... true OG's (whatever that is) should have been almost done, if not completely done by that point. My point is that to say nobody slaps the OG tag on on something average is just plain incorrect, my friend. OG gets slapped on anything that is to be sold, to someone that doesn't know the difference. I saw it happen with clones, I saw it happen with bud. Trust me, it happens.

Even of the ones who had "the original OG" as each group proudly claimed, they all had a different plant. How is that possible?

Originally, OG must have been a single plant..... a clone selected by someone from a grow out, which eventually became popular via pop-culture, music, rap what have you.... and once it entered pop culture others tried to capitalize on the name... be it to sell bud, clones, seeds etc etc. What 'was' OG - changed- as others tried to capitalize on the name.

I laughed with many growers (and admittedly, at, some growers) about their OG's and the originals.... how could it be "the original OG" when clearly not all of the growers even had the same genetic clone! One grower tried to explain to me that OG wasn't a clone, but a smell that was found in "all of the OG's". I teasingly took it further, to suggest that to him it may be a smell, but that was only HIS impression of 'what OG was', and it didn't necessarily match up with what others thought... with what 'The Market' thinks.

Jorge and I had this conversation over and over again as we visited different growers, dispensaries etc etc..... and finally- it came to me; that OG Kush is no longer a single plant (an individual), or even a family (since all 'the original's are clearly not all related), or even a smell profile. OG Kush is a philosophy, a way of life, a state of mind or even a state of being. It's a religion. It's grown past what was once a single plant, to a collection of unrelated hybrids, that don't necessarily even share the same/similar terpene profile.

What I'm saying is, I know what you believe is OG... and you may even have 'the original' cut, but the reality is that the rest of the market doesn't necessarily agree with you... as others have copies of 'the original', that smell different, grow different, ARE different. With different buyers, who can't agree on what OG is... there is no standardization. So you know what OG is. Does the market? I think since nobody can agree on what "It" is, that shows the conundrum.

Obviously this is all a bit tongue in cheek.... no offense intended to the OG, or anyone in particular.... but I do find the whole thing a but funny. But it openned my mind to a serious problem in our community, and that is how do we standardize genetics? How do we know that clone X (name X) , IS, clone X?

So Morphote will you donate your OG to the OG Kush DNA project? I'm going to let the DNA tell the story.... because we all got our cuts from someone, who was proud to pass us the cutting with a history (storied Pot is always better, remember G13?)... and that history might not be as accurate as they portrayed. There's always incentive for unscrupulous money hungry folks, that are rife in this biz, to tell a little grey lie to help their sales.

Bottom line, people lie, DNA does not.... so I want to let DNA have her voice in this whole debate. What do you think?

Don't get me wrong.. I like OG, it's really good pot. Is it the best? My answer is that there is no best, never will be. There is no holy grail, to which everything else can be measured against. To me there is just a top class of cannabis... say the top 5%... and from within that 5% you can have a preference, but none is better than the other... once you enter the class of the true elite, you can prefer one more than the other, but that doesn't mean you are correct - because someone else may like a different plant more. Who is to say what is right?

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter. I'd also like to get your OG DNA in the test ring, if you would be willing to participate.

Respectfully,
-Chimera

 

[grandmaster B]

All he was saying 420247 was that it's all just one giant clusterfuck now and could use some straightening out. I get it, his words were lost on you, but not on everybody. Chimera certainly doesn't need me to dig him out of anything lol.

chimera is on point, and GSC is next.

 

[Zen Master]

Are you really that dense?

OG Kush is hype, hype based on something that most people would agree is top quality cannabis, but it's no longer that plant you're growing, it's an idea, a meme, it's an interchangeable word for dank.

That's what he's talking about. It still exists, but what it represents as an idea is much more than the clone you're growing.

lol? I'm curious what OG Kush represents as an idea....

what OG Kush represents is the strain OG Kush, not just any "dank weed".

I take it your not in a medical area where you can pick from 60 strains off one board.

OG ain't hype, some people hype their stuff as OG because real deal OG is just that good.

a seasoned smoker who's familiar with the scene can pick out a strain thats got "OG" in it with ease. There are subtle nuances between different phenos of OG however there is no mistaking the funk of OG.

Thats like saying Sour Diesel is just 'hype' and its a new name for 'dank'. Its the name of what it is, and the legit version IS dank.

I got some various OG's crossed to my Honey White males, and while I dont go around calling them OG Kush, whenever anyone takes a puff of an OG dominant pheno they say "theres some OG in this huh?". Then again I smoke with a bunch of pot snobs who dissect herb in every way shape and form.



OG Kush is the "it" strain right now and has been for a number of years. While GSC is good its much more localized in NorCal (until it spreads obviously).

Anything that is considered the "best" is going to be copied and faked, some copies and fakes are great, some are awful. The real deal (not this "original OG" BS I'm hearing about in the thread) OG Kush cuts are still considered by many to be the cream of the crop.

 

[Dr.Young]

Stick to the question..

Yes OG is the most sought after, along with probably Purple Urkle, and Pre-98 Bubba

Or maybe that is just what I am most sought after lol

 

[Madjag]

It must look so different seeing things from the outside looking in



This is bullshit!

OG Kush is OG Kush

Is Skunk#1 just hype or just an idea?
Which Skunk #1? The one I got in 1978, fresh from Santa Cruz, or the 35 year old strain kept alive by Sensi Seeds or Seedsman?

Is Blueberry just hype or just an idea?
Which one?

Is Haze just hype or just an idea?
Not at all and if you search out Sam Sunkman's original essay on the history of the Haze brothers (his neighbors), you'd realize that what we call Haze is still much different today.

Is Northern Lights just hype or just an idea?
Which Northern Lights? The IBL Indica, AKA Northern Lights #1 by Sacred Seeds? The variations, #2, #5, et al that soon followed included all kinds of strains.

There are many fakes out there to these but that doesn't make them any less real does it? Or just "an interchangeable word for dank"?

My pictures are not "hype" or just an "idea"... Its a family of plants... Named OG Kush... Like if you grew 10 C4 seeds and had 4 females, they may not all look the same but they're still C4

Just because people fuck around does not mean OG Kush is no more... It is real, it does exist... Maybe not in your garden... But that does not make it fantasy

I say, let's let Chimera do the DNA thing. Send him your best and we'll have a scientific discussion later.

 

[OG.Gotti]

The different OG's I've had the pleasure of growing/smoking were all top notch herb.. The best I've come across yet.. Although I do love my Blk Hz, SSH/HK, and ECSD/Nev's Hz...

 

[Bacchus]

Marketing wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[devilgoob]

Kush.

As in the Hindu Kush Mountains where geospecific locations are bound to contain plants that are different.

A few places in the world where moisture, altitude, bacteria and general climate is super-different, you are bound to come across some landraces that are SPECIAL like the kush, you can only find in those locations, really.

People are right about it being a meme kind of. Nonetheless, Hindu Kush came from the Kush mountains. It's real and it's different.

 

[SmokeTrees]

 

[Mia]

Do want!!!

 

[SmokeyTheGrower]

I've been smoking weed and growing for 15+ years and good OG is really up there among the best in terms of smell,flavor,and potency. In Cali it is King.

Edit:I'm going to roll a joint of some fire OG and blaze one right now.