heath inspired test prototype (aero)

[DHF]

Hey AOD.....yeah....adjust and keep ppm`s constant....the reason bloom boosters are such big sellers is cuz they`re concentrated P & K , but base nutes ARE your NPK so why the fuck yas need extra shit when yas already got it but don`t know howta use it.....anyways....

Been a tight ass fer 2 many yrs and GH 3 part rocked my bitches forever so proof`s in da puddin..... .Nutes are nutes are nutes.....bet on it.....

Sure .....there`s shit yas can add ta help along the way like silicablast for stemwall strength , and SM-90 for rootzone and critter control , but that`s about all I ever used except for cal/mag plus with my coco runs.......

Edit:.....Droppin everything gradually as Bobbles says above is the way , as my R/O topoff`s took care of , but never used dripclean so let the professor tell yas howta handle it.........

Less is more...DHF..........

 

[AOD2012]

Yea, when I first started, I was adding like 6 bottles at a time. running 6/9 now. Ok, I have been gradually taking the N out, but not upping the bloom, luckily the next side of the room is just at five weeks. Thanks a lot guys. farmhouse, shit is looking tight!


aod

 

[farmhouse cat]

If I may...

Say you have a 10 week strain. You want to run full strength veg nutes through the first 5 weeks. Drip clean should go with the micro, b/c it's the micros that cause the lockouts ime.. meaning, that I stop adding drip clean when I stop using micro. Anyway, you don't want to completely drop your N and Ca after week 5, but start diluting what's left in the reservoir so that by the end of flower there is nothing left but what's stored in the buds and roots, and then the plants takes that and turns pretty colors... I only add back bloom after week 5, and rather than do a pk slam, I just up the ratios of P and K by using more bloom to reach my desired EC.

Ok my recipe is different...im thoroughly confused now.

 

[farmhouse cat]

I got confused beacuse i change my reservoir once a week. I only start diluting whats in the res with plain water on the last res change.

But from my understanding,, maybe i should lower the bloom and cal mag starting in week 6, and make the difference up in a PK booster?

I actually already do that by using the bloom mix for soil at week 6...which is lower in N. But i always used the same strength.

 

[bobblehead]

Ok my recipe is different...im thoroughly confused now.

Bro I use gh micro and bloom, silica blast, sm90, drip clean, and cal/mag is only for heavy indicas like chemD or strawDD.

So, I use the 6/9 ratio, then add additives. After week 5, I only add back bloom. It's real simple. Silica blast is for cell wall strength... And stems are built during stretch. Some silica will remain in coco, so I drop it. You being pure hydro, might not want to drop silica. SM90 is mostly to prevent bug problems, and if ya get through the stretch bug-free, chances are you're gtg. Again, the sm90 will remain in my coco for a minute... Now the drip clean is what most ppl don't understand. Given it's action of pulling nutrients into the plant, it has to be a macro-nutrient itself. It has to be a super-chilate of potassium that binds with other ions, and stops them from falling out of suspension... But I can't prove it w/o reverse engineering it... And I would rather just go on my theory.

So what are you using?

Edit: ok, so what I'm saying is start using drip clean @ 1mL a gallon and quit doing res changes... Cause the drip clean isn't going to allow for excess salt build up... Or use 50% veg 50% flower in week 6, 25% veg and 75% flower in week 7... Etc..

 

[DHF]

FHC.....what`s your recipe....whatever it is start droppin the N/Micro and uppin the potassium and phosphorus/bloom to maintain ppm`s....simple....babyshit....

No extra cal/mag needed in hydro , only coco.....again....

I defer to the Bobbles....explain it son....

Peace...DHF........

 

[farmhouse cat]

I use Botanicare grow and bloom, cal mag, liquid karma, silica blast, aquashield, great white, and dripclean.

I start with the bloom booster hydroplex 0-10-6 at week 5.

 

[bobblehead]

I use Botanicare grow and bloom, cal mag, liquid karma, silica blast, aquashield, great white, and dripclean.

I start with the bloom booster hydroplex 0-10-6 at week 5.

Why are you using great white? Bacteria will naturally conolize the roots... But if you're using synthetic fertilizer, you don't need to be concerned so much with bacteria colonies. Organic guys need the bacteria to eat their shit and turn it into bacteria shit that the plants can use.

Stop throwing good fertilizer down the drain. The drip clean, at least in my head, makes it so that all the nutes get absorbed... And so you just have to keep adding back fresh nutes. I would put an auto top-off on your res... So then you can just add w/e fertilizer you need for that week.

 

[farmhouse cat]

Botanicare is organic, ive been using this recipe since i started growing about 3 years ago.

The health of the plants in my pictures might be a clue.

DHF are you saying that i should stop adding the bloom completely now?

 

[bobblehead]

botanicare is organic

Ok, well that answers that question... Lol... I'm only familiar with what I buy.

Don't use sm90 or any horticulture oil cause it'll kill the bacteria. Otherwise the rest of the advise still applies. Drip clean= no res change, just add back nutes.

 

[DHF]

Bro...not tellin yas what to do but rather help yas get rid of residual N in late flower to help your plants swell more with elevated levels of P & K to keep ppm`s constant.....

Cal/Mag is calcium nitrate based and silicablast is potassium silicate for elevated K , and not sure what liquid karma and aquashield has per NPK , so can`t comment....

Peace....DHF........

 

[bobblehead]

Botanicare is organic, ive been using this recipe since i started growing about 3 years ago.

The health of the plants in my pictures might be a clue.

DHF are you saying that i should stop adding the bloom completely now?

Lol who said anything about your plants being unhealthy bro? It wasn't too long ago you were losing plants left and right with that same nute formula. Plant health has to do with a lot more than what you're feeding the bitches. Good luck.

 

[farmhouse cat]

Bro...not tellin yas what to do but rather help yas get rid of residual N in late flower to help your plants swell more with elevated levels of P & K to keep ppm`s constant.....

Cal/Mag is calcium nitrate based and silicablast is potassium silicate for elevated K , and not sure what liquid karma and aquashield has per NPK , so can`t comment....

Peace....DHF........

I hear ya DHF,,, im just soakin in the knowledge and trying to apply it to my setup. I will get it figured out.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

Aquashield is 0.02-0.04-0.01 and is made from composted chicken po.

Liquid Karma is 0.1-0.1-0.05 and is made from kelp. It also has humic acid and yucca extract.

 

[farmhouse cat]

im gonna drink some wine with the wife now. lol but before i do. DHF im interested in the comment about not feeding as often the last couple weeks? I feed 1 min on and 5 off. Do you think if i switch to say...1 on 10 off it would have that desired affect?

 

[DHF]

It`s strictly trial and error Bro.....especially with such a sensitive setup as aero......but....

With my ebb and flow buckets I had 5 gal buckets full of lava rock that I fed 3 times a day lights on only till last 10-14 days strain dependent , and then I went with twice a day till harvey..... but .......

I hadta dial the time between feeds so the plants wouldn`t droop and croak , so my feeds were 3 hrs after lights on and 3 hrs before lights out and I kept room temps in the mid to upper 80`s with less air exchange to make em sweat more and pump resin in survival mode.....

My winter runs were always more colorful cuz I could drop lights off temps further than normal to kill more chlorophyll and expose more true colors of the plants.....now....

All yas can do is try different timer settings to find out how much time between feeds they can stand without fallin over....I mean literally fallin over , then back up and feed em the next time right before that to prevent em from fallin over , but stress and dry em out so they`ll sweat more and pump more resin...and then....

You`ll know what ta do from now on to improve colors and resin production....and hey.....

Don`t freak out about the reduction of residual N and compensating with additional P & K , cuz most folks don`t understand the plants needs in each trimester of their cycle and that`s why nute companies make a DAMN fortune on additives....

The ONLY 2 items I`ve seen turn the growin world on it`s ear that actually DO somethin that nothing else has up till now is H&G`s Dripclean and Root Excellurator......other than those 2 items.....there`s...

Nothin new under the sun....bet on it....NPK is as NPK does.....more nitrogen during veg thru stretch , then dwindled down with more phosphorous and potassium to maintain same ppm`s till end of cycle.....simple.....babyshit.....

Peace...DHF.........

Edit:....Wanted to say that all this shit I`m talkin bout plant torture will NOT increase production and bottomline yields , but....it will let your bitches be all they can be quality wise.....All my yields were based on torturin em and dwindlin ppm`s in the process , so it never concerned me bout how much more I could yield without said process cuz it`s what I`ve done since krusty buckets in `94 so it was just part of my program from the get....

If you want more gpw`s this might not be what yas wanna do last couple weeks , but I`d never do any other way....

 

[farmhouse cat]

It`s strictly trial and error Bro.....especially with such a sensitive setup as aero......but....

With my ebb and flow buckets I had 5 gal buckets full of lava rock that I fed 3 times a day lights on only till last 10-14 days strain dependent , and then I went with twice a day till harvey..... but .......

I hadta dial the time between feeds so the plants wouldn`t droop and croak , so my feeds were 3 hrs after lights on and 3 hrs before lights out and I kept room temps in the mid to upper 80`s with less air exchange to make em sweat more and pump resin in survival mode.....

My winter runs were always more colorful cuz I could drop lights off temps further than normal to kill more chlorophyll and expose more true colors of the plants.....now....

All yas can do is try different timer settings to find out how much time between feeds they can stand without fallin over....I mean literally fallin over , then back up and feed em the next time right before that to prevent em from fallin over , but stress and dry em out so they`ll sweat more and pump more resin...and then....

You`ll know what ta do from now on to improve colors and resin production....and hey.....

Don`t freak out about the reduction of residual N and compensating with additional P & K , cuz most folks don`t understand the plants needs in each trimester of their cycle and that`s why nute companies make a DAMN fortune on additives....

The ONLY 2 items I`ve seen turn the growin world on it`s ear that actually DO somethin that nothing else has up till now is H&G`s Dripclean and Root Excellurator......other than those 2 items.....there`s...

Nothin new under the sun....bet on it....NPK is as NPK does.....more nitrogen during veg thru stretch , then dwindled down with more phosphorous and potassium to maintain same ppm`s till end of cycle.....

Peace...DHF.........

I am amazed yet again. Those little things are gonna add up.

Thanks for the enlightenment!

 

[farmhouse cat]

In the past in my earlier aero setups i would do a "drought flush" before the chop (turn off pumps) so no watering for 24 hours. The plants would start drooping bad. Then i would refill the res with pure RO water and turn the pumps back on for 2-3 days. (The plants would recover amazingly fast) Then harvest.

Its similar. But it was meant to clear all the nutrients from the plants. I didnt notice much difference so i quit doing it. But theres aero guys who swear by it.

 

[DHF]

Dewd....I`m on this bullshit dialup connection at my farm runnin thru a proxy server that makes it even slower , so while I was editing my post you quoted it without the edit , but no biggie...

Anyways...You know what I`m talkin bout as far as waitin till they droop so that`s what you`re lookin for , but it only took a few hrs in my ebb and flow bucket rooms.....certainly not ever 24 hrs before they drooped....

We`ll work it out...Now get backta work and get rid of the foliage....lol...

Peace...DHF........

 

[farmhouse cat]

Im gonna give it a try...but will proceed with caution. Thanks mate!

I did more trimmin last night, and will do some more tonight. 3 weeks to go and the buds are already so freakin juicy!