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Wholesale pot prices plummet. Now there starting to get better
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Id say 3 out of 4 peices i saw this year had mold somewhere in the bag
shit is disgusting,
even had some dude tell me "oh dude its all good molds are physcotropics .." yeah right bro
easy to whiff out the fakes and greedy dudes in this ind. and drop them from contact.
only mess with the best,
and to all growers....STOP SELLING MOLD BAD KARMA IDIOTS
NOW THINK ABOUT IF THE BUD IS MOLDY, HELLA PEOPLE MAKING HASH WITH MOLDY SHIT...f'ed for sure
be carefull, grow your own and ditch the moldy greedy growers
shit is disgusting,
even had some dude tell me "oh dude its all good molds are physcotropics .." yeah right bro
easy to whiff out the fakes and greedy dudes in this ind. and drop them from contact.
only mess with the best,
and to all growers....STOP SELLING MOLD BAD KARMA IDIOTS
NOW THINK ABOUT IF THE BUD IS MOLDY, HELLA PEOPLE MAKING HASH WITH MOLDY SHIT...f'ed for sure
be carefull, grow your own and ditch the moldy greedy growers
weeddaddy50
Member
I hear ya.....people have to understand..camera phones
I hear ya.....people have to understand..camera phones
sometimes are not real good....looks like typical good outdoor, something clubs would sell to their patients....and tell them it was indoor....lol......for outdoor...that looks better than average.
Here is my take on the market right now:
Meeting with patients & brokers 2-3 times a week...makes you impatient at best, as almost all of the patients I meet with are looking for clean, high quality medicine....and they are really appreicate someone who takes the time to make sure they get that quality...and they will donate their hard earned money for that product...most on a weekly basis...or at least bi weekly basis...when it come to brokers or buyers...some have their own patients, who are looking for the exact same thing as my patients...those "buyers"...are super happy to get the quality medicine, as they know...in a matter of days...their patients will take all they have for their medical needs....both of these situations are really "nice" to deal with, both know want they want, and appreicate the time it takes to produce the medcine.
Then comes the brokers/clubs.....they really fit into 5 or more catagories....
#1 flipper.....they will only purchase...if they already have it sold to someone.....have dealt with several of these guys....strange....you can call them with the best of the best.....and nothing....then....have...stuff that is left over in your room....you are basically sold out....but you know...there is always a 1/2 unit of small buds or....1/4 unit of average....the stuff I usually just give to friends or people who do the trimming....that flipper will call and take everything you have....it's just suprising to me....happens mostly from april to august....
#2 The shipper....this guy will....talk to about "relationsips"...can do 3 a week....for XXXX every week...only wants top shelf....bla....bla.....bla.....bla...no shake in the bag....almost always sounds like he is from New York....you can show him any OG....Chem.....Alien....and if does not smell like sour diesel....they rip on it....bla....bla....bla.....I showed them Earth OG, Alein Dawg, Black Bubba OG, Red Berry OG....with super overpowering smells...super crystals, hard,,,,sticky nugs...and they want to tell YOU....how bad you medicine is....After about 5 minutes I just laugh....they no nothing about Marijuana.....all they want to do is.......JAM you on the donation....they know they can ship it back east and sell it for 40-52 depending on area...in hours...but they still JAM you on donation.....I have NEVER and I mean NEVER met one of these guys...I would consider doing business with more than once, most of the time....can spot them....prior to a meet and greet....OH...they have CA id....and a script....and I verify everyone...and they sign my collective agreement.....but you know what they are doing...or at least suspect.
#3 The hustler.....this broker....could be a good contact....they are all different....met plenty of these guys....most are want to bees....who....are...really do not know anything about marijuana....it is price only.....find someone who is dumping their stuff....and then take it around to some clubs or other brokers and resell it.......very different from the flipper.......these guys have to hustle....their chit.....when you talk to them....there is always something wrong...with the product.....it could be 24 carrot gold bars you would be showing them....and they will say something stupid like "well you know...it really is not shiney enough".....they have to drive down the price....and I almost never talk to these jokers.
#4 club owners who want you to consign the medicine to them,
there is a club in Sacramento....El Camino....they will donate for quality medicine....they want to charge you an 11.2% tax rate on your sale...and have 60 days to pay you....so here it the math.....the most they will pay is $2800 a unit....less $313 tax...and 60 days to pay....and that is if they are still open.....
WOW.......WOW......WOW.......and growers are doing it....its just really suprising to me.
#5 clubs...that will cash you out on your donation....very few will donate what the medicine is worth...instead....they will try and lowball the chit out of you.
purely from a business standpoint......I hope all clubs get closed...and the movement is more grower direct...and small collectives, like I have set up....the grower is able to pay all the bills, the patient gets clean very quality medicine and most often is less than they are paying at the clubs.
my 02....cents
sorry for the ramble.....I need another cup of coffee...this sunday morning.
I hear ya.....people have to understand..camera phones
sometimes are not real good....looks like typical good outdoor, something clubs would sell to their patients....and tell them it was indoor....lol......for outdoor...that looks better than average.
Here is my take on the market right now:
Meeting with patients & brokers 2-3 times a week...makes you impatient at best, as almost all of the patients I meet with are looking for clean, high quality medicine....and they are really appreicate someone who takes the time to make sure they get that quality...and they will donate their hard earned money for that product...most on a weekly basis...or at least bi weekly basis...when it come to brokers or buyers...some have their own patients, who are looking for the exact same thing as my patients...those "buyers"...are super happy to get the quality medicine, as they know...in a matter of days...their patients will take all they have for their medical needs....both of these situations are really "nice" to deal with, both know want they want, and appreicate the time it takes to produce the medcine.
Then comes the brokers/clubs.....they really fit into 5 or more catagories....
#1 flipper.....they will only purchase...if they already have it sold to someone.....have dealt with several of these guys....strange....you can call them with the best of the best.....and nothing....then....have...stuff that is left over in your room....you are basically sold out....but you know...there is always a 1/2 unit of small buds or....1/4 unit of average....the stuff I usually just give to friends or people who do the trimming....that flipper will call and take everything you have....it's just suprising to me....happens mostly from april to august....
#2 The shipper....this guy will....talk to about "relationsips"...can do 3 a week....for XXXX every week...only wants top shelf....bla....bla.....bla.....bla...no shake in the bag....almost always sounds like he is from New York....you can show him any OG....Chem.....Alien....and if does not smell like sour diesel....they rip on it....bla....bla....bla.....I showed them Earth OG, Alein Dawg, Black Bubba OG, Red Berry OG....with super overpowering smells...super crystals, hard,,,,sticky nugs...and they want to tell YOU....how bad you medicine is....After about 5 minutes I just laugh....they no nothing about Marijuana.....all they want to do is.......JAM you on the donation....they know they can ship it back east and sell it for 40-52 depending on area...in hours...but they still JAM you on donation.....I have NEVER and I mean NEVER met one of these guys...I would consider doing business with more than once, most of the time....can spot them....prior to a meet and greet....OH...they have CA id....and a script....and I verify everyone...and they sign my collective agreement.....but you know what they are doing...or at least suspect.
#3 The hustler.....this broker....could be a good contact....they are all different....met plenty of these guys....most are want to bees....who....are...really do not know anything about marijuana....it is price only.....find someone who is dumping their stuff....and then take it around to some clubs or other brokers and resell it.......very different from the flipper.......these guys have to hustle....their chit.....when you talk to them....there is always something wrong...with the product.....it could be 24 carrot gold bars you would be showing them....and they will say something stupid like "well you know...it really is not shiney enough".....they have to drive down the price....and I almost never talk to these jokers.
#4 club owners who want you to consign the medicine to them,
there is a club in Sacramento....El Camino....they will donate for quality medicine....they want to charge you an 11.2% tax rate on your sale...and have 60 days to pay you....so here it the math.....the most they will pay is $2800 a unit....less $313 tax...and 60 days to pay....and that is if they are still open.....
WOW.......WOW......WOW.......and growers are doing it....its just really suprising to me.
#5 clubs...that will cash you out on your donation....very few will donate what the medicine is worth...instead....they will try and lowball the chit out of you.
purely from a business standpoint......I hope all clubs get closed...and the movement is more grower direct...and small collectives, like I have set up....the grower is able to pay all the bills, the patient gets clean very quality medicine and most often is less than they are paying at the clubs.
my 02....cents
sorry for the ramble.....I need another cup of coffee...this sunday morning.
Thanks for telling those other assholes the truth. That VK looks great I wish I could smell it. Where's there pictures?? Keep your stuff coming I love seeing it. Jon 54
Nondual - don't let the haters trouble you. If anyone on this board knows good weed it's you! I've been reading your post's since I joined ICmag.
Most peeps wouldn't know good bud if it landed on them.
You just rock on dude!
"purely from a business standpoint......I hope all clubs get closed...and the movement is more grower direct...and small collectives, like I have set up....the grower is able to pay all the bills, the patient gets clean very quality medicine and most often is less than they are paying at the clubs."
Amazing someone who has a clue and a brain behind it, could not agree with you more, although most of my fire never even see's Cali..sooo much easier!
Amazing someone who has a clue and a brain behind it, could not agree with you more, although most of my fire never even see's Cali..sooo much easier!
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Is it Medical Marijuana or Headies?
Is it Medical Marijuana or Headies?
Id personally have to SAMPLE every strain that I sold as MEDICAL MJ, to judge the MEDICAL EFFECTS. Thats the kind of everyday respect Id expect as a patient concerned with MY health.
As far as the Bay area goes- No offense, but when no MEDICAL descriptions accompany herb, but SMOKE REPORTS its just weed, which gets you high. Not too much talk about MEDICAL capabilities of this weed. Wouldn't the MEDICAL qualities of the weed dictate the price? I could care less, Im a fan, so keep the faith Cali-pornia, and make sure we all know how hard it is to "sell medicine" WTF.... does a good patient buy more meds??
Lets be honest, weed has been "selling out" for a few thousand years!
Is it Medical Marijuana or Headies?
Id personally have to SAMPLE every strain that I sold as MEDICAL MJ, to judge the MEDICAL EFFECTS. Thats the kind of everyday respect Id expect as a patient concerned with MY health.
As far as the Bay area goes- No offense, but when no MEDICAL descriptions accompany herb, but SMOKE REPORTS its just weed, which gets you high. Not too much talk about MEDICAL capabilities of this weed. Wouldn't the MEDICAL qualities of the weed dictate the price? I could care less, Im a fan, so keep the faith Cali-pornia, and make sure we all know how hard it is to "sell medicine" WTF.... does a good patient buy more meds??
Lets be honest, weed has been "selling out" for a few thousand years!
What is the standard rate for a trimmer? Are there some that get paid by the hour and others that get paid by the OZ trimmed?
I agree that trim machines SUCK ASS and the loss in quality is probably well more than the cost of a human trimmer.
My sister actually goes from Co to Cali each harvest season. She gets paid in trade or bud in Cali, and takes trade. The trade is a pretty good deal without mentioning specifics, but worthless in the long run. In CO I have heard if you prove your good with MMJ, you could get a raise to make $18 on the books at the right shop.
True. Some of us know who you are brother and respect what you have to say and show. Keep posting em up brother and let the haters hate, thats what they do and what would the world be without them?
Keep your head up brother M. Z|Z
well said man....im real surprised people are even able to survive on that consignment bullshit, let alone filling out tax forms. makes me think they are trust fund babies or something who dont need the money and just do it for beer money...because when i got PGE bills and other shit i want cash up for my wares ASAP within two weeks of being dried preferably..
i also hate clubs for the most part, the lowballing is ridiculous. even if its the best of best they will still lowbal and see how much they can squeeze out of you...
IMO the lowest a LB of top notch well grown weed shold sell for is 25 a unit.....at that price a local guy could still break it down and sell it, clubs can make 2x wholesale, and shippers can take it back east and make a good rate...
and thats 2500 cash up right away.....giving it to the club to make 2200 after taxes 2 months after harvest! GET THE FUCK OUTTTTTAAA HEEERE!
its amazing that even at 25 margins are being squeezed...shit you cuold buy some really nice herb for 25 locally here in oakland but what the fuck are you gonna do with it! i only know one person locally who will maybe give me 27 for it...other than that you gota break it down @200 to move fast and thats for peons and youngsters to do, not my kind of work....thats why most people put that shit in a box..
drug dealing/middleman shit is becomming a long lost tradition the only way to make any money is the be the source yourself and route to highest paying custie....go direct from garden to the last line of broker before the breakdown guys..
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stickey fingers
you reep what you soe
you reep what you soe
just wan't to say thanks to all the Cali dipenserys !!!
you have given me life, i have 1 club clone "kens"
90% of my garden was obtained threw seed gentics
from cali dispenserys and would not have it any other way....
ok mabe 100% J/K SB
you reep what you soe
just wan't to say thanks to all the Cali dipenserys !!!
you have given me life, i have 1 club clone "kens"
90% of my garden was obtained threw seed gentics
from cali dispenserys and would not have it any other way....
ok mabe 100% J/K SB
Mia
Active member
25 is too low imo.
3 is more appropriate.
You only getting 25 for your cookies?
Edit: never mind misread you. You said "the lowest". My bad. I thought you meant that was like the highest going rate up there which shocked me. My boy from the town showed me some things he can get around that price and I wasn't impressed. Although the herb game ain't his game if you catch my drift.girl! I felt like puking when i heard 25.lol
indoor cookies going from 32 all the way up to 4k a pop....the only bud i would pay more than 3k a pop for is Cookies or really really good OG kush..
really good indoor, strains like 4SD, chemxsour, OG Kush x Trainwreck, LVPurple Kush, kush crosses mostly going for 25 a pop from the grower direct...up to 27-28 from brokers..
for commercial indoor strains like GDP and blue dream from warehouse grows its like 2-22 a pop if you graba bunch....
theres a ton of really subpar beaster sour D indoors for 1200 a pop too...even saw some midgrade indoors for less than 500 a pop heat stressed premo but still better than mexican!
really good indoor, strains like 4SD, chemxsour, OG Kush x Trainwreck, LVPurple Kush, kush crosses mostly going for 25 a pop from the grower direct...up to 27-28 from brokers..
for commercial indoor strains like GDP and blue dream from warehouse grows its like 2-22 a pop if you graba bunch....
theres a ton of really subpar beaster sour D indoors for 1200 a pop too...even saw some midgrade indoors for less than 500 a pop heat stressed premo but still better than mexican!
The. God's. Honest. Truth.
And as I have said elsewhere , there's a whole slew of pirates in the dispensary crowd that are getting REAL greedy for the short term buck while cutting their throats as regards the longterm.
I will point something out *again* , and folks needn't bother with the specious comparisons to " legitimate" business.
In point of fact how many "legitmate businesses" do you extending credit i.e. merchandise on a 30 to 90 net with ZERO interest charged to a nebulous grey area ( legality wise) business retailer whom could get shut down the next freaking day , furthermore this IS a product that certain types of individuals WILL do nefarious things around.
And how's about the " we need a full zip for a sample" , which finger am I holding up to THAT one.
Brings me to another point......I've said this elsewhere.
NorCal Growers Union anyone. There are quite a few folks up here interested in this. I may even inquire of the mods if we could perhaps set up a section for this and perhaps some *LEGAL* genetics trading among *215 verifiable* folks.
One thing though , if this even gets off the ground. Check your attitudes at the door. Some folks need to remember that in the end we're all in this together...........an old quote is quite apropos....though paraphrased.
We all must stand together , for otherwise we will most surely hang separately............
Prices are what you make it.... thats the bottom line I've seen hundreds of vendors "extra medication" range from all prices colors quality... its all about how you push it... and how good your herb really is. I own a medical Marijuana Dispensary I've grown here in Cali and Im a damn hard working kid.. yeah you work hard you gonna get where you wanna be.
There is a lot of negativity in some of the post ive read but its really up to you to make it... I only been in california for a year and 2 months.. I feel i've done great... and I haven't seen shit yet..
Work hard and you'll make it, connections and friends will come along the way.
I drove to california by myself.. rented a U-haul and took off! all the way from Florida and im happy i made the move.
There is a lot of negativity in some of the post ive read but its really up to you to make it... I only been in california for a year and 2 months.. I feel i've done great... and I haven't seen shit yet..
Work hard and you'll make it, connections and friends will come along the way.
I drove to california by myself.. rented a U-haul and took off! all the way from Florida and im happy i made the move.
Good for you. Here's your brownie button. Sorry but you've done nothing that a whole slew of us hereabouts haven't done.
" A lot of negativity" , damn straight there is and your avoidance of the specific issues and attempt to spindoctor it off to avoid said issues speaks volumes.
Sorry but there is *ZERO* excuse for certain crap on *both* sides , but the fact is that even a goodly portion of those issues originating with the grower are due to greedy dispensary owners , sure a producer shouldn't be be bringing moldy bud to market , bet then the dispensaries shouldn't be lowballing that same bud , buying it and reselling it.
Then we could address how some dispensaries treat the *good* growers. The folks that they might conceivably *need* down the road after this shakeout is over and all the " stars in their eyes" greedy idiots have shaken out.
I do some stuff with a couple of dispensaries , both of which are run by oldtimers from very pre 215/420 , they know how things used to be done and conduct *business* , they don't throw a front on you , they don't bullshit , they won't buy bad product.......they WILL treat you fairly and keep their word right down to the time etc.
Why? Because they remember what the consequences of not keeping ones word in this thing once were.
Dispensary folks don't have those consequences , so hence a percentage of them will act like jackasses just because they can.
Me , well I just walk on such crap.....dropped a sample at a dispensary in Oakland , they called , agreed to a donation and I drove the miles , get there and suddenly the donation is a hell of a lot less along with " we could consign it for you".........I walked without another word , when I got home there was already a message meeting my price and asking me to come back down.
Unfortunately my answer to them was " Not at any price EVER."
Here's another reason I won't do consignment , y'all start taking a scope to buds purchased from dispensaries sometime and you might be surprised and rather disgusted at what you see. Tumble my bud for a bit of sift and you'd best not try to give it back to me.
I've been at this a long time , I keep up my end and you'll *never* hear me make excuses for some of the CRAP that goes on from the growers end , and quite frankly I'm fed up with hearing all the crap excuses from the dispensaries.
Clean up your own act , 'cause in the last analysis most dispensaries are dead in the water without the good growers.
And really? We were here before you , we'll be here after the short term pirates are long gone.
First and for most I came here to better my self and help others while im at it, I have never ever taken any Cannabis in "consignment" I too had to donate my meds before owning my own place and i know how retarded some places can be and been disrispected plenty of times. I learn that you should never ever leave a sample.. that was your first mistake if they are interested they will get it right off your hand simple as that! a sample left would be smoked right in front of my eyes thats it.. you aren't smoking it right then and there you aren't getting my meds. but you have to know how to market your meds too... no car just sells for being pretty..... imo they have to perform specially in a market full of cannabis that must of it is carp.
I pay Cash to the ones who deserve it! simple as that. I have never owe any money in my life or anything of that matter in fact i always been the one being owed.
I take pride in my work what ever it is I do I like to see a good job get done, If I ever see a problem I speak my mind.
I have grown hundreds of Lb in my day and Im just a kid seriously this is what I love and Im pretty good at judging good Cannabis thats what I do best like it or not Im here to stay Im not going anywhere..... I believe this herb needs to be Legalized so everyone can enjoy it.
The only reason I opened up a shop was because there is way too much room for improvement and way too many people smoking shitty cannabis that has very little if any medical value! Colorado is ahead at least when i was there visiting.
I pay Cash to the ones who deserve it! simple as that. I have never owe any money in my life or anything of that matter in fact i always been the one being owed.
I take pride in my work what ever it is I do I like to see a good job get done, If I ever see a problem I speak my mind.
I have grown hundreds of Lb in my day and Im just a kid seriously this is what I love and Im pretty good at judging good Cannabis thats what I do best like it or not Im here to stay Im not going anywhere..... I believe this herb needs to be Legalized so everyone can enjoy it.
The only reason I opened up a shop was because there is way too much room for improvement and way too many people smoking shitty cannabis that has very little if any medical value! Colorado is ahead at least when i was there visiting.
