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Wholesale pot prices plummet. Now there starting to get better

Putting an end to dispensaries is exactly how you raise profits as a grower. Dispensaries are the ones killing wholesale prices. Cannabis prices for the end user have never been higher. Prices are only plummeting for the middle men, aka, dispensaries. Fuck em, close em all. I think this would be good for growers and patients in the long run.
 
Well if they are successful in shutting down dispensaries I think there will be a lot of growers left holding the bag because they have no other distribution channels. Still thinking about how that would affect things. Can't remember which county it is in Cali but one is mulling over adopting fed guidelines which is nada.

thats true there would be a period, a grey area which is really happening right now, especially with the flood where folks have no way to get rid of product (it hasnt been easy for me). But if this holds up and mmj dispensaries disappear, then the black market would most likely come back and prices would most likely rise............then again who knows....its defenianty a changing climate in cali, thats for sure!
 
Putting an end to dispensaries is exactly how you raise profits as a grower. Dispensaries are the ones killing wholesale prices. Cannabis prices for the end user have never been higher. Prices are only plummeting for the middle men, aka, dispensaries. Fuck em, close em all. I think this would be good for growers and patients in the long run.

i actually agree with you about the dispensaries. you are right smokers are still paying the same for 1/8's or whatever, its mostly growers who have made less. i was just saying i wouldn't want to see mmj end to the point that you go to jail for growing.
 
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guest8905

Well if they are successful in shutting down dispensaries I think there will be a lot of growers left holding the bag because they have no other distribution channels. Still thinking about how that would affect things. Can't remember which county it is in Cali but one is mulling over adopting fed guidelines which is nada.

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unclefishstick

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ya thats what i was implying the 350 was the high mark and mostly in the past, but one of my outdoor friends was paying that this year and said thats it!!!! the people on the higher end usually have out of staters buying their stuff. But you are right the trimming price is coming down. I remember 4 years ago people were still paying by the hour.......boy does that not work out for the grower!!!!
depends on the trimmer...i help a buddy out in cali,i get 20 bux an hour and it rarely cost him more than 300 to get 6-8 pounds trimmed plus i help with the breakdown and clean up.i do get fed really well and its top shelf margaritas every night,plus all the bud and hash i care to smoke...ha,i would love to get 200 bux a pound for trimming!:)
 

kmk420kali

Freedom Fighter
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With the rates that you have out there, slow trimmers are goog to end up making minimum wage. You guys need to figure out how to get your prices back up. You can make it happen somehow.

We just finished up 100#...paid $100 a lb for trimming....slow trimmers need to get faster-- I notice that the slower ones are the ones talking and smoking the most...coincidence?? Most made their $100 a day...not too bad, for sitting at my house trimming, listening to music...and having me buy breakfast and lunch!!
Sure, I liked it better when we were paying $250 a lb...but at that time, we were getting $3500 all day long....now it is tough to get $2000-- :tiphat:
 

huligun

Professor Organic Psychology
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One fellow that we trimmed for said the rate was 10% of the sale price. He paid us $250 and we worked for him for a week and he disappeared. We were waited at his barn for half a day waiting to get paid. I called my friends that connected us with him tracked him down. I will not go into details but we got a bit of a bonus for the attempted rip-off. I am a Colombian national and we don't take that kind of thing lightly. He got off easy.
 

megayields

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Putting an end to dispensaries is exactly how you raise profits as a grower. Dispensaries are the ones killing wholesale prices. Cannabis prices for the end user have never been higher. Prices are only plummeting for the middle men, aka, dispensaries. Fuck em, close em all. I think this would be good for growers and patients in the long run.

Amen....l
 
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Ultra Current

In my area we charge other growers 480 per p to trim. I negotiated it from the beginning of the grows. Personally I would never pay more than 240 a p but that's me. My trimmers love the subcontract work but when they work for me they complain about 240. I try to tell them they are lucky to get that but they don't see it.
 
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powerrobbie

480 per P? Cmon man really? Why would anyone pay that much even if there getting 6grand a unit...that is just ridicoulous I can easily trim a pound in a day so your gonna pay me almost 500 bucks of untaxed loot for a day of work? My friends come over to help me trim and they dont expect anything in return and they espically know that there not getting ANY cash. We all smoke a shit ton of weed drink lots of beers and chill out. At the end of the day I'll give them a nice bag to take home ( they go home happy) but it doesn't work out to anywhere close to 200 dollars worth per pound....I think that is WAY to much to be paying someone just to trim....its not like it takes much skill and any other job that doesnt require skill around here your paid about 10 bucks an hour. Why should I have to pay out 200 bucks to each person for a day of work? Just cause its illegal? I dont even think any of my friends would accept that much from me as they know they do not deserve that much...
 
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Ultra Current

480 per P? Cmon man really? Why would anyone pay that much even if there getting 6grand a unit...that is just ridicoulous I can easily trim a pound in a day so your gonna pay me almost 500 bucks of untaxed loot for a day of work? My friends come over to help me trim and they dont expect anything in return and they espically know that there not getting ANY cash. We all smoke a shit ton of weed drink lots of beers and chill out. At the end of the day I'll give them a nice bag to take home ( they go home happy) but it doesn't work out to anywhere close to 200 dollars worth per pound....I think that is WAY to much to be paying someone just to trim....its not like it takes much skill and any other job that doesnt require skill around here your paid about 10 bucks an hour. Why should I have to pay out 200 bucks to each person for a day of work? Just cause its illegal? I dont even think any of my friends would accept that much from me as they know they do not deserve that much...
Like i said I pay out 5% which is 240. We charge 10% to other growers in my area and there's plenty of work to keep people busy. The price out here is a lot higher for p's so it works out for everyone. When people get paid that much there is no talking or smoking or eating or playing. Straight work and thats it. Of course after work we celebrate by smoking fattys. I used to pay 500 a p when I was getting 64 but those days are over. Personally my time is worth 500 an hour for the risk so I don't do any work for anyone else unless I get 500 an hour or more. For this work it isn't trimming. People enjoy the experience that I have and pay me for my experience. With the risks involved it's only right. A grower last week paid me 2500 for 3 hours of my time. 2 months ago a grower paid me 20k for 20 hours of teaching. Life is great out east!

Now why would they pay me this? Because they don't get the weights that they should or they don't know what they are doing to get the quality that they need or they have problems that will potentially get them nothing. I fix their problems and I get paid my fair share for doing that. For example one grower that I know has 8 lights and paid me 20k for my time. Now he's going to be able to make at least an extra 200k a year from what i taught him. It makes perfect sense. I've worked for close to 20 years perfecting my trade and I get paid for that experience. Everyone makes out and we are all happy. There is a lot of risk involved and that makes me get paid more for those risks as well as my knowledge.
 
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Ultra Current

480 a pound? HAH! I don't believe it.. Not one bit.
If I was going to lie about it I would say that I pay out 480 but I don't. Just letting you know how it goes down. When we make 4800 a P, some growers don't mind paying out 480 for the added security. They don't want their friends to know that they grow so they pay my people. You don't have to believe me but I'm just telling you how it is. Are you trying to tell me that a couple years back I wasn't paying my trimmers 500 a p? I assure you that I was. Some growers complain about the price of trimming so the ones that complain obviously don't hire my trimmers cause it's too expensive for them. I'm not saying that everyone here gets 480 a P cause that's not true I'm just saying how we do.
 

unclefishstick

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dang,480 a p? sign me up! lol yeah,my buddy is happy to pay me 20 bucks an hour to trim,he had some real bud butchers in the past,i was shocked to see some of the bags of trim,i also am working through his backlog of hash makings,only 3 trash bags left!
 
Well things are changing daily

Well things are changing daily

When...this crackdown started...I thought is was going to be bad for everyone....now I am not so sure...dispensaries were the major reason the wholesale pricing for units is WAY down...and growers are either just breaking even or even losing money...A quick trip to the Bay Area, a few days ago, showed me many closed dispensaries...Sacramento....all in the county will have to close....redding all have to close....chico...all are closed....so think about it...nearly all are closed in Sacramento...and all are closed from up to Oregon...along the HWY 5 coorider...Marin Alliance....the oldest dispensary in California...HAS TO CLOSE...its been in the same location for 15 years....paid...all its taxes....has the blessings of the local city....and they HAVE TO CLOSE.......as a MMJ beliver in the movement...it makes me sad...this has happened.....but from a growers perspective...prices will rise...and most likely the patient prices will stabilize...and possibly even go down slightly.....

After this trip to the bay area....I agree that....grower direct to patients will be the future to MMJ....Just my two cents....but after meeting brokers....clubs...collectives...and hearing their stories...and then their low ball donation offers on AAA indoor....I just had to laugh.....then back up to the mountains...and my patients who need this medicine on a weekly basis...meeting with them to get them their medicine....everyone was ....extreamly greatfull...they were able get secure access to the medicine they need, at donations that are close to where they should be to survive.

A few friends of mine attended those....dispensary meetings...where the top 10-15...have a meeting to discuss...legal issues...share attorney fees on issues...discuss the policies...of state, city, federal governments....you know they also discuss....the wholesale donations for vendors....they all made an agreement to only pay xxxx to the grower....thats right....price fixing.......to bring down the wholesale price to growers.

At this point.....I believe all dispensaries who were shaky...are gone or will be gone....I even believe that the largest are going down...ya they will fight.....but....its takes money...and lots of money to fight....when they start to seize property's where dispensaries are located....they will all tumble like a house of cards.....Is that a good thing.....I do not know....but I can tell you....things are changing daily.



Putting an end to dispensaries is exactly how you raise profits as a grower. Dispensaries are the ones killing wholesale prices. Cannabis prices for the end user have never been higher. Prices are only plummeting for the middle men, aka, dispensaries. Fuck em, close em all. I think this would be good for growers and patients in the long run.
 
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Nondual

you know they also discuss....the wholesale donations for vendors....they all made an agreement to only pay xxxx to the grower....thats right....price fixing.......to bring down the wholesale price to growers.
Well I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
 

Big D

icmagic
Veteran
no shit, for 480 a lb.... I'm a trimmin fool! I'll even wear my booty shorts :D

bitch better have my money!
 

Dr.Dank

Cannabis 101
Veteran
we used to pay 300 a day from 8am to 8pm.... this was in Florida...
a guy here in cali pays his workers 200 a lb... i thought that was a lot since he gives me his lbs for 1,400 and its damn good outdoors :)

Well its all about the product you have... Cali prices are fine you just need to know how to get yours...
I've seen lbs of fine OG go for as high as 4600... for the shops of coarse because you would have to brake it down to make anything.
i know i can get 35 a lb with some effort.
 

MtnLivin

Member
If I was going to lie about it I would say that I pay out 480 but I don't. Just letting you know how it goes down. When we make 4800 a P, some growers don't mind paying out 480 for the added security. They don't want their friends to know that they grow so they pay my people. You don't have to believe me but I'm just telling you how it is. Are you trying to tell me that a couple years back I wasn't paying my trimmers 500 a p? I assure you that I was. Some growers complain about the price of trimming so the ones that complain obviously don't hire my trimmers cause it's too expensive for them. I'm not saying that everyone here gets 480 a P cause that's not true I'm just saying how we do.

I'm telling you even when I was getting 5k a pound 3 years ago, there is no way in hell anyone would ever get paid 500 to trim a pound. $250 was top dollar. I know dozens of growers and never once heard of anyone paying more than 250. I have been in this game in the Cali scene for 10+ years now.. i know how it used to be and how it is now.
 

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