Tutorial Organics for Beginners

[Durdy]

Yes, but..............I've got a surplus of things around the yard I'd like to use up.

I was gonna pick up some EWC later this week when I had some free time.

Other then that and the powdered versus pelleted dolomite lime it's not all that far off from the 3LB recipe is it?

I thought the greensand, rock phosphate, and diatomaceous earth were optional ammendments for the mix?

Several places I went looking for DE a couple months back informed me it could not be obtained in my state.

 

[pop pop]

BurnOne, I'd really value any feedback you have regarding my questions about dolomite/lime and anything else you care to comment on regarding my posts these last couple pages.

 

[BurnOne]

BurnOne, I'd really value any feedback you have regarding my questions about dolomite/lime and anything else you care to comment on regarding my posts these last couple pages.

Powdered or pulverized dolomite (dolomitic) lime (limestone). I honestly don't know how I can make it any clearer.
Burn1

 

[pop pop]

Thanks for the reply, BurnOne.

Sorry for being so obtuse---I was confused about if I could use that bag I have in the pic or not---if there was a difference between bags of lime labeled dolomite and lime not labeled dolomite (which mine is). I'll keep looking for the right kind.

On a personal note, you've taught me a lot and if I have a successful first grow it will be at least in part because of this thread. Sometimes people don't say thanks as often as they should, and I want you to know that in my case you've really helped give me the basics with this thread and the confidence to attempt growing.

 

[Rumer]

hey pop pop
lowes and or home depot have it most of the time by concrete section. Most feed and seed places have it too.

 

[pop pop]

Thanks, Rumer. I just got it. Now all I have to do is pulverize it.

 

[BurnOne]

Thanks, Rumer. I just got it. Now all I have to do is pulverize it.

Go ahead with what you're doing. I wish you luck. If you have problems, come back and follow the instructions. They say "powdered dolomite lime". Not "Grind up some pelletized, granular or prilled dolomite lime". That stuff has clay in it which dilutes the dolomite.
This is a prime example of people on here that say "I followed the instructions and my grow sucked".
Burn1

 

[mad librettist]

yeah pop pop, listen to B1. If you want to depart from the recipe, and I must stress that even very experienced outdoor gardeners should follow a recipe first time growing sun loving annuals like cannabis indoors, you need to research a bit more.

Now a bit of clay added to a peat based medium like LC mix is a good thing, but you need to figure how much lime is in your lime if it is mixed with a carrier like clay.

I wouldn't bother grinding it if it is not straight rock.

 

[Rumer]

My HD and local feed seed store carries the PULVERIZED dolomite lime 50lb bags........I follow instructions well gentleman......I would hope pop pop is doing the same.....but obviously not.......

 

[pop pop]

BurnOne - Thanks for letting me know about my mistake. I've learned a lesson from this.

mad librettist - I had no intention of departing from B1 at all. I thought, mistakenly, that I was following what he told me to do. Yes, I know I've a lot to learn and I've every intention of doing so.

Rumer - Over the last few days I've tried every store around here except Loews (I'll go there tomorrow). Hopefully they will have it. If not, the search will continue. I may be ignorant, but I'm not lazy.

 

[h.h.]

Firing squad is lining up...

When making substitutions in a recipe.
First expect to fail.
odds are you won't, just don't expect the same results. Sometimes there are improvements. In the case of dolomite, it's good to have, but I wouldn't hold up a grow because it was lacking. Garden lime is still good, not as good, just use it as it is intended to be used with perhaps a bit more moderation. Myself if I don't have the dolomite, I don't use anything. I don't find a need for it.

 

[mugenbao]

@pop - Hey bro, I hope you aren't feeling picked on. There have been so many people who try to deviate from the "recipe" that I think some folks have developed a sensitivity to it and are perhaps a little assertive in their replies, but they just want to impress on people that the recipe works well and if you follow it you'll have good results. They just want everyone to have a good chance at high-quality organic homegrown

Best of luck to you!

 

[pop pop]

h.h. - Glad you shared your perspective. Hopefully the bullets are rubber for newbies.

My expectation is I'll learn a lot by going through the whole process. As far as results, if I can actually get from seed to harvest anything at all on the first try I'd feel great.

mugenbao - People as old as I am have a thick hide or they're already fertilizer. I've got a lot of respect for the posters here or I wouldn't have joined IC. I've done the same thing---when I want it to stick I give it hard and straight. Can't fault intentions. Thanks though for your post, I appreciate it.

 

[BurnOne]

Over the last few days I've tried every store around here except Loews (I'll go there tomorrow). Hopefully they will have it. If not, the search will continue.

Use your local Yellow Pages and call around first. Gas is too expensive. Search for nurseries, garden centers and farm suppliers. It should be plentiful this time of year.
Burn1

 

[h.h.]

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=pd_lpo_...PDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1PSV6QG250PCX401BWNC&ajr=2

The bullets are simply compost to help your garden grow.
D lime is basically not sold in my area. One hydro store did open that sometimes has it. The package says "soil sweetener" with "dolomite" in smaller print. Sunleaves is the brand. Probably a bit pricier. Twelve bucks or something for a small bag, but it goes far. Maybe 6$ shipping on the internet or 20$ in gas looking for it.

 

[pop pop]

Just got back from Loews. Besides the pelleted lime, they did have "Ground Dolomite." But the instructions say "Powdered or Pulverized", not "Ground", don't they.

There are several nursery's in the area I can check next.

 

[mad librettist]

no, pop pop, you got it wrong. No one shot at you. I wouldn't listen to hh here because it's better to stay positive. I didn't even tell you not to use lime in a clay carrier. I simply stressed that following a recipe is a good idea your first time. Did I deviate my first time? Hell yes! And I got good results, and so will you as long as you only deviate in educated ways.

I told you, a bit of clay is good for an LC mix. If you follow the links in my sig you will get to some horticulture videos about that. You just need to add enough lime to buffer your mix. So figure out how much lime you have (compare application rates to pulverized dolomite, and you will have a ratio), and remember to add enough because the peat needs it.

Good luck bro.

 

[BurnOne]

The dolomite you need will be a fine powder. Finer than sand. Finer than sugar. More like flower.
Nobody is bashing you. We are trying to help. But we've done that hundreds of times before you got here. You are #101 and I'm an old fart. Wise, but grumpy. I used to be "Grumpy Moderator".
Burn1

 

[pop pop]

BurnOne - I know you're trying to help and I don't feel bashed. I'm grateful for any help I get and the lessons I'm learning here. Eventually I expect to be just as exasperated as the regulars are constantly answering the same newbie questions over and over, though that's a long ways off at this point. Comes with the turf.

mad librettist - I'm using moonshine mix, not LC. I read the entire sticky (60+ pages) and the only amendment to it I wanted to try was the additional of the dolomite. B1 wrote on that thread on page 23 post #336 about how newbies (like me) should be made aware to use it---that it should be listed---and so that was why I went with it.

 

[mad librettist]

LC, Moonshine whatever.

A bit of clay raises your CEC and water holding capacity.

and you do want to lime your peat with dolomite.