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HD VIDEO: How I trim, dry, and cure
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Crush
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Either way, the plants get harvested. You might as well just keep the plants in the soil, or just chop away at the buds.
But hanging the plant upside down for no reason but to promote some ''grow lore' from the 1970's is not what I would recommend if any of the noobs are listening. Let the other people stuck in their ways do it.
No.
You are rationalizing 'grow lore'. The tribe master sets the rules, you follow it, and if anyone disagree's they are somehow an outcast with shouts to ban. (hmm what does that sound like?)
When the leaves fall down and dry over the bud, the leaves can squish the trichomes or cause them to get knocked off. There goes some potency.
The resin head is like a protective barrier from for the THC inside. I happen to believe that it's possible for THC to degrade/break down when exposed to oxygen. You don't want squished resin heads when they are wet or drying. Having un-manicured buds can cause this to happen and there goes some potency.
Also, when you hang the plant upside down (which is what *I* actually find funny), the leaves covering the bud does not allow the inner trichomes to dry out properly. This is a big issue because the the trichome heads themselves need to dry out.
The reason why it's important is because the the CBG will further convert over to THC after the bud is picked and dried. Yes. when the bud dries, it gets even more potent than when it's fresh. But it needs to be dried first.
Some claim, that there's only a time frame for this to happen and if it doesn't happen quickly, it will convert to CBD instead when curing. Also ambers will cause more CBD in place of THC which is why I'm anti-amber. Amber Trichs = less potency.
Now let's add everything up the way the 'grow lore' says to do things:
-You are hanging your plants upside down. The trich's are getting squished and knocked off during the drying process. There goes some potency.
-The inner trich's that are left aren't getting sufficient air to convert the CBG to THC because the non manicured leaves are covering key areas. There goes some potency.
-You are growing until 30% amber which is a huge, huge decrease that you could have had in THC production. Those will convert to CBD's, which to me, is useless because the CBD is already in natural abundance in accordance to the strain. Why do you want even more CBD in place of THC? I guess they like less potency.
-You then trim the bud when it's dry, which causes even more knocking off of the resin heads. The one guy said 'yeah my plant is so great it looked like it was snowing when I grabbed my plant!'. Err.. he doesn't realize that the 'snow' was his potency going down the drain. This is why I discourage the handling and knocking around of dry plants.
-After you cure your buds, you then take out a grinder and grind out all the resin heads off the bud. It gets 'lost' everywhere and there goes even more potency.
-Or, you man handle the bud and knock off all the resin heads by breaking apart the nugs apart rather than users scissors. There goes a bit of potency.
-Or you take a bong and filter out a bunch of THC in the water (as High Times proved). Even more potency gone.
Now add all these things together and count the losses.
If you listen to the video and follow the directions, you will have all your resin heads in tact as much as possible, with as much THC as possible to go straight to your head. Especially if you vape. You don't need a volcano to vape properly. That is grow lore onto itself actually. Any American brand convection vape will do and I personally recommend this one for the price and quality of engineering and other things that I won't get into. You can put a chunk of nug in a vape, take a draw, turn off the vape. Turn it on the next day with the same nug and take a draw off it. It heats up in min. You can just keep drawing off the same nug chunk when you want. Very easy, clean, and efficient.
Everyone said that THC was not water soluble, until High Times did a lab test of bong water and found a bunch of THC in it. But bongs work good too. Grow lore is a huge problem in the cannabis community.
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What are you talking about? The goal of the plant is to make seeds and have them end up in the ground. The leafs are for photo synthesis. Is this more grow lore or something? That's a new one.
For the newbs out there. Don't fall victim to grow lore.
-When it's time to harvest, take your plant fresh when you're ready to sit down and cut. If you aren't ready to cut, leave it in the pots and remove from light. The plants can live for weeks this way and stay fresh.
-Cut off a bud with some stem with it. Hold it by the stem. You can also cut off a whole cola.
-Cut any part of the leaves off that don't have resin.
-Put the buds on a kitchen plate or something like that.
-Put them in a dark, dry place for a couple of weeks. I'm not a fan of blowing air directly on the buds unless it's humid. If you must, make sure it's mild moving air. Nothing heavy.
-Put it in a jar very carefully and seal. Do not shake around in jar and make sure you can get your bud out easily. Don't cram it it.
-Keep the jar at all times in the dark.
Here's how your bud should look:
My brother took two MILD vape hits of a small popcorn piece and told me it was enough and too strong for him.
The moral of the story is, let go of grow lore and stop hanging the plants upside down. That's just my opinion of course.
Now what we're going to do next is keep this black pheno alive. I'm going to start a re-veg project to show people how to re-veg a proven winner.
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greenmatter
good answer ......... what the fuck was the question?
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Ganja D
Awesome thread!
Notice how he ignored 99.999% of the comments? Classic Yummybud move.
those are some leafy lookin ass buds dude, what happened? did you go down to medium difficulty?
im not going to call you names or anything even thought i have one i would like to call you after that last post. the reason people hang plants upside down to dry isnt some old wives tales about thc dripping to buds, and its not even what that other guy said about the leaves drying over the buds. the reason we hang the plants upside down is so that they dry slower, the hanging upside down ensures that the plant dries out really slow so that it doesnt dry out all over the outside while the inner buds stay moist and leading to mold when we jar up buds we thought were fully dry, or having over dried buds that don't cure for shit cuz there wasnt enough moisture in them.
also whats this jazz you're spouting about losing potency by grinding weed? thats like the biggest crock of shit ever. sure you lose trichs, yeah , and? theres billions more on each nug, why would you trip about losing a couple dozen by handling or grinding? also doesn't your grinder come with a screen and a kief collector? mine does. when im dry i scrape together whatever little is in there and smoke it on top of some tobacco or dried leaves when im out of weed. or bored. i have had like the resin collected from over 1 oz of weed ground up in my grinder, it came out to be like a little more than a fingernails size. and it got me about half as high as smoking 1 joint, or if i had just smoked some leaves. i don't think it would have added that much if i had taken the whole ounce and smoked it whole before i ground it up.
back to trimming, i take my whole plant, then i cut off ALL the large fan leaves, and then i trim back every leaf till the bud, then i hang upside down and let dry in my dark closet, usually take about a week to 10 days, then i cuz up the buds and jar em, burping once a day to prevent mold.
i only do it this way cuz i hate cutting up dry leaves, makes a goddamn mess everywhere.
you should quit while you're ahead dude. i grow in a tiny box with terrible conditions and only 70watts and i get better results than you are showing us.
I grow Hard Mode, i don't know wtf your excuse is.
also your brother and you prolly got some bitch lungs, 2 hits and he quit? wtf? i've smoked the hardest core "fancypants" kush around and it was meh at best. i either smoke too much weed, or i just haven't been smoking the hard mode shit. im waiting and wishing for some weed that makes me quit after 2 puffs... shit actually i had some, about a year ago at a wake, after... whatever. some local hillbilly old school family shit. 2 hits and i was fucking blasted. too bad it was private label i would love to have some more.
im not going to call you names or anything even thought i have one i would like to call you after that last post. the reason people hang plants upside down to dry isnt some old wives tales about thc dripping to buds, and its not even what that other guy said about the leaves drying over the buds. the reason we hang the plants upside down is so that they dry slower, the hanging upside down ensures that the plant dries out really slow so that it doesnt dry out all over the outside while the inner buds stay moist and leading to mold when we jar up buds we thought were fully dry, or having over dried buds that don't cure for shit cuz there wasnt enough moisture in them.
also whats this jazz you're spouting about losing potency by grinding weed? thats like the biggest crock of shit ever. sure you lose trichs, yeah , and? theres billions more on each nug, why would you trip about losing a couple dozen by handling or grinding? also doesn't your grinder come with a screen and a kief collector? mine does. when im dry i scrape together whatever little is in there and smoke it on top of some tobacco or dried leaves when im out of weed. or bored. i have had like the resin collected from over 1 oz of weed ground up in my grinder, it came out to be like a little more than a fingernails size. and it got me about half as high as smoking 1 joint, or if i had just smoked some leaves. i don't think it would have added that much if i had taken the whole ounce and smoked it whole before i ground it up.
back to trimming, i take my whole plant, then i cut off ALL the large fan leaves, and then i trim back every leaf till the bud, then i hang upside down and let dry in my dark closet, usually take about a week to 10 days, then i cuz up the buds and jar em, burping once a day to prevent mold.
i only do it this way cuz i hate cutting up dry leaves, makes a goddamn mess everywhere.
you should quit while you're ahead dude. i grow in a tiny box with terrible conditions and only 70watts and i get better results than you are showing us.
I grow Hard Mode, i don't know wtf your excuse is.
also your brother and you prolly got some bitch lungs, 2 hits and he quit? wtf? i've smoked the hardest core "fancypants" kush around and it was meh at best. i either smoke too much weed, or i just haven't been smoking the hard mode shit. im waiting and wishing for some weed that makes me quit after 2 puffs... shit actually i had some, about a year ago at a wake, after... whatever. some local hillbilly old school family shit. 2 hits and i was fucking blasted. too bad it was private label i would love to have some more.
Crush
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How do you want me to address hatefulness and insults? He was the only one that commented on the grow lore.
If I get hated on it's all good, I'm just happy that I could provide people with a laugh.
You keep hanging your plants upside down and I get the same sort of laugh.
You just killed your brother with laced buds smart guy lol
Either way, the plants get harvested. You might as well just keep the plants in the soil, or just chop away at the buds.
But hanging the plant upside down for no reason but to promote some ''grow lore' from the 1970's is not what I would recommend if any of the noobs are listening. Let the other people stuck in their ways do it.
No.
You are rationalizing 'grow lore'. The tribe master sets the rules, you follow it, and if anyone disagree's they are somehow an outcast with shouts to ban. (hmm what does that sound like?)
When the leaves fall down and dry over the bud, the leaves can squish the trichomes or cause them to get knocked off. There goes some potency.
The resin head is like a protective barrier from for the THC inside. I happen to believe that it's possible for THC to degrade/break down when exposed to oxygen. You don't want squished resin heads when they are wet or drying. Having un-manicured buds can cause this to happen and there goes some potency.
Also, when you hang the plant upside down (which is what *I* actually find funny), the leaves covering the bud does not allow the inner trichomes to dry out properly. This is a big issue because the the trichome heads themselves need to dry out.
The reason why it's important is because the the CBG will further convert over to THC after the bud is picked and dried. Yes. when the bud dries, it gets even more potent than when it's fresh. But it needs to be dried first.
Some claim, that there's only a time frame for this to happen and if it doesn't happen quickly, it will convert to CBD instead when curing. Also ambers will cause more CBD in place of THC which is why I'm anti-amber. Amber Trichs = less potency.
Now let's add everything up the way the 'grow lore' says to do things:
-You are hanging your plants upside down. The trich's are getting squished and knocked off during the drying process. There goes some potency.
-The inner trich's that are left aren't getting sufficient air to convert the CBG to THC because the non manicured leaves are covering key areas. There goes some potency.
-You are growing until 30% amber which is a huge, huge decrease that you could have had in THC production. Those will convert to CBD's, which to me, is useless because the CBD is already in natural abundance in accordance to the strain. Why do you want even more CBD in place of THC? I guess they like less potency.
-You then trim the bud when it's dry, which causes even more knocking off of the resin heads. The one guy said 'yeah my plant is so great it looked like it was snowing when I grabbed my plant!'. Err.. he doesn't realize that the 'snow' was his potency going down the drain. This is why I discourage the handling and knocking around of dry plants.
-After you cure your buds, you then take out a grinder and grind out all the resin heads off the bud. It gets 'lost' everywhere and there goes even more potency.
-Or, you man handle the bud and knock off all the resin heads by breaking apart the nugs apart rather than users scissors. There goes a bit of potency.
-Or you take a bong and filter out a bunch of THC in the water (as High Times proved). Even more potency gone.
Now add all these things together and count the losses.
If you listen to the video and follow the directions, you will have all your resin heads in tact as much as possible, with as much THC as possible to go straight to your head. Especially if you vape. You don't need a volcano to vape properly. That is grow lore onto itself actually. Any American brand convection vape will do and I personally recommend this one for the price and quality of engineering and other things that I won't get into. You can put a chunk of nug in a vape, take a draw, turn off the vape. Turn it on the next day with the same nug and take a draw off it. It heats up in min. You can just keep drawing off the same nug chunk when you want. Very easy, clean, and efficient.
Everyone said that THC was not water soluble, until High Times did a lab test of bong water and found a bunch of THC in it. But bongs work good too. Grow lore is a huge problem in the cannabis community.
,
What are you talking about? The goal of the plant is to make seeds and have them end up in the ground. The leafs are for photo synthesis. Is this more grow lore or something? That's a new one.
For the newbs out there. Don't fall victim to grow lore.
-When it's time to harvest, take your plant fresh when you're ready to sit down and cut. If you aren't ready to cut, leave it in the pots and remove from light. The plants can live for weeks this way and stay fresh.
-Cut off a bud with some stem with it. Hold it by the stem. You can also cut off a whole cola.
-Cut any part of the leaves off that don't have resin.
-Put the buds on a kitchen plate or something like that.
-Put them in a dark, dry place for a couple of weeks. I'm not a fan of blowing air directly on the buds unless it's humid. If you must, make sure it's mild moving air. Nothing heavy.
-Put it in a jar very carefully and seal. Do not shake around in jar and make sure you can get your bud out easily. Don't cram it it.
-Keep the jar at all times in the dark.
Here's how your bud should look:
My brother took two MILD vape hits of a small popcorn piece and told me it was enough and too strong for him.
The moral of the story is, let go of grow lore and stop hanging the plants upside down. That's just my opinion of course.
Now what we're going to do next is keep this black pheno alive. I'm going to start a re-veg project to show people how to re-veg a proven winner.
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Ganja D
There was a point in all of our growing careers when we knew nothing about growing.
Crush,for you that time is now. You seem like an eager young dude,and I can hear the excitement in your tone about the resin on your plants. So we at least understand you love to grow.
Please do yourself a favor and empty your cup. Forget everything you've ever heard or learned about growing and start out fresh. If you keep going the way your are you'll always be a horrible grower.
If you take the time to do some real self education and research you'll be looking back on this thread laughing at how stupid you sounded a few years ago. Trust me. You want to grow some good weed and see some real resin glands? Take my advise.
This site has a lot of resources. If you really want to understand why everyone in your threads in making fun of you just do a little research.
And hanging plants upside down is no folk lore. It's done for many reasons.
First it's an efficient way to maximize space by hanging some 50 lb fishing wire and create multiple rows and layers using cubic space to your advantage.
Also the fan leaves will protect and shield the buds and crystals from light,which rapidly breaks down and ruins thc. The leaves contain moisture. Leaving the leaves and stems on the plant will allow the whole plant to dry slowly and evenly,evaporating out the moisture at an even rate resulting in a smoother less harsh burn.
Hanging the plants keeping the buds suspended in the air also keep the buds intact and untouched. Using a screen will flatten the surface area of at least one side of the bud.
There are a bunch of other reasons why hanging your plants to dry is the best way to go for most growers.
Seriously though,you've got it all wrong. Feel free to ask questions,but you gotta start over and relearn how to grow from scratch.
Good luck.
OK seems to be working now
Crush
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People keep telling me they have tolerance and can't get stoned anymore. They smoke for the habit of it and the small buzz lasts 15 min.
If you want to break through that, you need to grow plants that take 5-8 months flower. Haze #1, Thai, Vietnamese, Malawi, etc.
The strongest, best strains are strains like Panama Red, Malawi Gold, Thai Stick. That sort of thing. This are NOT easy strains to grow indoors and take a long, long time to flower with nanners often appearing late in the cycle.
These strains are racy, paranoid, anxiety inducing highs that are not for the faint of heart. If you have tolerance, you'll get a nice high. The high will last for hours. The key is, you need to make sure you grow it all the way until the trichs are cloudy. Too many people pick them too early. You also have to harvest section by section. They can seemingly flower forever.
These are the ultimate hard mode strains to grow and I'll be attempting to grow them kate fall.
I'm considering getting a Ceramic Metal Halide for that grow in particular or building custom rooms just for these plants.
Malawi x Meo Thai - Get you very high inducing panic attacks, paranoia, and heart racing.
If you want to break through that, you need to grow plants that take 5-8 months flower. Haze #1, Thai, Vietnamese, Malawi, etc.
The strongest, best strains are strains like Panama Red, Malawi Gold, Thai Stick. That sort of thing. This are NOT easy strains to grow indoors and take a long, long time to flower with nanners often appearing late in the cycle.
These strains are racy, paranoid, anxiety inducing highs that are not for the faint of heart. If you have tolerance, you'll get a nice high. The high will last for hours. The key is, you need to make sure you grow it all the way until the trichs are cloudy. Too many people pick them too early. You also have to harvest section by section. They can seemingly flower forever.
These are the ultimate hard mode strains to grow and I'll be attempting to grow them kate fall.
I'm considering getting a Ceramic Metal Halide for that grow in particular or building custom rooms just for these plants.
Malawi x Meo Thai - Get you very high inducing panic attacks, paranoia, and heart racing.
Crush dude, why are you being so stubborn? You have some guys here who grow some of the best bud you'd ever be lucky enough to find trying to give you advice, and you're calling them assholes.
I WISH I could get some feedback from some of the guys posting in your threads on my grow. Why don't you just eat your humble pie, and take their advice? Also, you probably should watch a couple grow videos before you post another one, that way you'll at least know how to pronounce those really tricky words before you use them.
I WISH I could get some feedback from some of the guys posting in your threads on my grow. Why don't you just eat your humble pie, and take their advice? Also, you probably should watch a couple grow videos before you post another one, that way you'll at least know how to pronounce those really tricky words before you use them.
That's not the kind of high anyone that I know enjoys. If you enjoy that feeling go for it but dont push that bullshit on me. You say 8 months flower show me a bud thats not covered in amber at that age sativa or not. Where the hell are you getting this info from. whats that saying you can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink boy you must be thirsty
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