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ibjamming

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Perhaps I am brainwashed/conditioned whatever you call it, perhaps we all are. Perhaps I am not.

You know Hitler also wanted to "cull the human herd" as you stated, and he killed off 5.8 million Jews. And your asking me whose side I'm on ?


I'm definitely not on the side that encourages mass genocide, I can tell you that much.



If things hit the fan in this country, and death is unavoidable, then I will face it with no fear in my heart. Can you say the same ?


btw, this is all very :off2:

There you go...getting all emotional on me.

We're ALL conditioned...I'm conditioned too. Some I've broken...I think!

Yes, I've heard that...Hitler did have some crazy ideas...he also had MANY brilliant ones. Do you throw away EVERYTHING someone says because you disagree with others? That's what you're saying...nothing he did was good because he killed a lot of Jews. YOU are the ones who are near sighted, blinded by ignorance...conditioned. Someone tells you someone is bad so you believe it...without question, without condition.

I used a bad choice in that word...I didn't mean an active culling...a natural culling. Just stop going into debt to help others...how about that? Would you take out a loan to feed a strangers family? I wouldn't. And that's my position. Stop the aid. People HERE need help first. And NO, you don't EVER go into debt to give to someone else! Which this country does to fund welfare/assistance.

No...no mass murder...no genocide...just nature taking it's course.

We REALLY have too many people...by half. And without oil, it's us OR them...not both. I'm a survivor...I do what needs to be done. You?

If the SHTF...I'm not going anywhere...if it comes to it...I'll take you out for my survival. So, your death...IS...unavoidable because of your philosophy. The "feminized" society we now enjoy is to keep a bunch of individuals calm and herded. If the SHTF...that's the opposite from what you need to be. you need to be an individual, able and willing to do what needs to be done.

Do I WANT this? Hell no...but ALL civilizations collapse and this will too...hopefully when I'm gone...but if it is sooner...I'm prepared. My 10% went to my own personal insurance...not to a guy who says he talks to the guy who lives in the sky.

People are different...isn't it fun!
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Actually, it's about time for that rebellion in your sig...will God save you? Who's side are you on? The real patriots? Or "The King"?

I get stuff like this in the mail, use it for kindling. "Where will you spend eternity, Heaven or Hell. I always wondered why they gave hell a bigger font.


Real patriots? A bunch of Saturday afternoon light loafers with muskets and white wigs, chasing each other in the woods.

Why must we choose between men and Elvis?

Save America now, go to Hell later. Sounds like a campaign slogan.
 

Greensub

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Yes, I've heard that...Hitler did have some crazy ideas...he also had MANY brilliant ones. Do you throw away EVERYTHING someone says because you disagree with others? That's what you're saying...nothing he did was good because he killed a lot of Jews. YOU are the ones who are near sighted, blinded by ignorance...conditioned. Someone tells you someone is bad so you believe it...without question, without condition.

Ok I'll bite... what were the MANY brilliant ides that hitler had? Let's here you wax eloquent on hitler.

I used a bad choice in that word...I didn't mean an active culling...a natural culling. Just stop going into debt to help others...how about that? Would you take out a loan to feed a strangers family? I wouldn't. And that's my position. Stop the aid. People HERE need help first. And NO, you don't EVER go into debt to give to someone else! Which this country does to fund welfare/assistance.

How about just stop going into debt to support the biggest military in the world? Why is all the debt due to welfare/assistance?

Oh Snap! Maybe your talking about corporate welfare & assistance? Ok... maybe I agree with that.

No...no mass murder...no genocide...just nature taking it's course.

We REALLY have too many people...by half. And without oil, it's us OR them...not both. I'm a survivor...I do what needs to be done. You?

If the SHTF...I'm not going anywhere...if it comes to it...I'll take you out for my survival. So, your death...IS...unavoidable because of your philosophy. The "feminized" society we now enjoy is to keep a bunch of individuals calm and herded. If the SHTF...that's the opposite from what you need to be. you need to be an individual, able and willing to do what needs to be done.

Do I WANT this? Hell no...but ALL civilizations collapse and this will too...hopefully when I'm gone...but if it is sooner...I'm prepared. My 10% went to my own personal insurance...not to a guy who says he talks to the guy who lives in the sky.

People are different...isn't it fun!

This is the best argument for buying a gun in case the SHTF... you just know this guys got one. (and who's gonna protect you from him?)
 

igrowone

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as the fossil fuel supply becomes lower relative to the human population, what is the likely outcome?
will the pain be shared across the world evenly? probably not, the usual method will apply
the poor countries will become poorer, they will bear the larger burden
you see it happening now, and this will be a check on population growth
when it gets too bad to watch, aid will be sent(or promised), but it can't be enough except for the short term
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Yes, I've heard that...Hitler did have some crazy ideas...he also had MANY brilliant ones.

How many died in Germany alone, 20 million? That makes brilliant diabolical. Your 52, more than old enough to know better.

Do you throw away EVERYTHING someone says because you disagree with others? That's what you're saying...nothing he did was good because he killed a lot of Jews. YOU are the ones who are near sighted, blinded by ignorance...conditioned. Someone tells you someone is bad so you believe it...without question, without condition.
what a fre@k

I used a bad choice in that word...I didn't mean an active culling...a natural culling. Just stop going into debt to help others...how about that?
Nah, you don't think before you peck. I think I remember your home state. Would it interest you to know you'd be bankrupt w/o assistance?

Would you take out a loan to feed a strangers family? I wouldn't. And that's my position. Stop the aid. People HERE need help first. And NO, you don't EVER go into debt to give to someone else! Which this country does to fund welfare/assistance.
H!tler was a socialist. :tumbleweed: No one is safe with ibj, not even H!tler

No...no mass murder...no genocide...just nature taking it's course.
translation...

...We used to have big wars and there were the occasional big droughts or disease outbreaks that would take out a few million people here and there. We don't have that any more...

We need to "cull the human herd".

Me thinks you be big backtracking.

We REALLY have too many people...by half. And without oil, it's us OR them...not both.
Decrease the divisor, more gas for yourself.

Oh wait, I'm sorry. You're didn't make the cut. Please move to the left line. The train, will be leaving shortly. ibj> :petting:

I'm a survivor...I do what needs to be done. You?
Did you see the line wrapped around the Musket and White Wig Emporium? Better get over there quick or you'll have to be drummer or battle flag waver.

If the SHTF...I'm not going anywhere...if it comes to it...I'll take you out for my survival.
I'll bet $20 on turbolaser4528

The "feminized" society we now enjoy is to keep a bunch of individuals calm and herded. If the SHTF...that's the opposite from what you need to be. you need to be an individual, able and willing to do what needs to be done.
Alex Jones... says "king" in the addy. And I thought it was Elvis. Must be the second coming.
http://current.com/news/92649738_ab...mears-alex-jones-as-king-of-paranoia-porn.htm



Why do real men have a wig and leotard fetish? I'll call Alex and tell him I think it's wigs and stockings that made us the giant vag we are today lol. We owe it all to the revolution. Pink too toos for Revolution #2.

ibj... his headstone will read,

Here lies ibj
A burly man, Real patriot's say
He was strong, Right down to his glue
And buried in his pink too too.

Do I WANT this? Hell no...but ALL civilizations collapse and this will too...hopefully when I'm gone...but if it is sooner...I'm prepared. My 10% went to my own personal insurance...not to a guy who says he talks to the guy who lives in the sky.
Fear and loathing in hicksville...

Buy GOLD!

ibj, I know turbo touched your religious sensitivities.:wave:

People are different...isn't it fun!
Yeah, we have funny funny and funny strange. Nothing fun about bigotry.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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Hemp Kat...

http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1329/ Better? The other link got toasted in the trans-location. It's all...may, will, maybe, if we can... Just like all the rest...hopes and dreams.

Don't bother to reply...I won't see it...I won't be talked to like that by anyone. It's too bad you let your emotions rule you so...

Out of touch with reality much? You're talked to like that every day and by a hell of alot more then just me. What you keep trying to do though is get the last word in like some immature baby who thinks if he gets the last word he has won. Unfortunately for you the world doesn't work like that and you're too weak willed to simply ignore things or people you don't agree with.

Oh and while your link works better it still doesn't say what you're claiming. What it does say is that they have made (not might make or hope to make or think they can make) a solar panel that is 80% efficient. The only "if" in the story is about being able to access the energy collected. They say that if they can add a tiny capacitor to each antenna then they will be able to access that energy. If you have any understanding of solid state technology and what it can do then you know the "if" they're talking about is extremely doable.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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Stop the aid. People HERE need help first. And NO, you don't EVER go into debt to give to someone else! Which this country does to fund welfare/assistance.

Yo moron, when you speak of welfare you are speaking of help that goes to people here, not people in other parts of the world. When it's money we give to other countries to help it's called a charitable contribution.
 

SpasticGramps

Don't Drone Me, Bro!
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Gasoline’s prepping for a return to $4 a gallon

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — When the U.S. Energy Department mentioned in a report this week that retail gasoline prices could top $4 per gallon later this year and diesel prices may rise 14% this year, that should’ve been cause for alarm for consumers who have already seen a steady climb in fuel prices in the last three months.

The CPI came in at a screaming 0.5% today though. So according to the gubermint and Bernanke inflation is still way to low. Fire up the printing presses boys we need to juice this mother some more!

Don't mind oil exploding or the food riots starting to happen in third world countries. Everything is going to be OK. Bernanke has it all under control. Just like the sub-prime mess was "contained" in '08 there is nothing to look at here. Move along.
 

igrowone

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Gasoline’s prepping for a return to $4 a gallon



The CPI came in at a screaming 0.5% today though. So according to the gubermint and Bernanke inflation is still way to low. Fire up the printing presses boys we need to juice this mother some more!

Don't mind oil exploding or the food riots starting to happen in third world countries. Everything is going to be OK. Bernanke has it all under control. Just like the sub-prime mess was "contained" in '08 there is nothing to look at here. Move along.

CPI is quite the modern myth, it measures what they want it to measure
the FED's primary concern is wage inflation, if wages go up, they will act with higher interest rates
but no matter what you do with interest rates, energy is its own reality
real prices will go up on food, transportation, etc. - everything that is a real Consumer Price Index
 

turbolaser4528

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Good, I hope gas goes up to $10 a gallon !

It will make alternative energy sources like Solar, nanosolar, and wind much more lucrative.


I was thinking about getting certified to be a solar installer, the industry is starting to boom !
 

igrowone

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I was thinking about getting certified to be a solar installer, the industry is starting to boom !

i don't know if solar is the 'big answer', but i hope to setup some panels in a year or so
for the DIY crowd, take a look at some the home built panels, be surprised what you can do with fairly inexpensive materials
 

DiscoBiscuit

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We've had solar power since the 70s. Even if we can't rock 100% green; the greener we go, the less fossil fuel we need. But some see as weakness our inability to dictate our own terms for gas and oil. That's why solar panels were yanked from the White House. Why use one thing (for free) when we can go take something from someone else?
 

trichrider

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npr stated that inflation was like 2% last year, are we supposed to get a credit for the other 8% - 12% that prices have risen in that time?

i'm fed up with the house of cards that the government protects. no more expansion, no new government entities (like the f'n TSA, etc.), no foreign aid in the guise of military assistance...we threaten, they buy arms to offset threat.

We have the mightiest military because we're afraid that one of those countries we've screwed over is going to use the arsenal we sold them to anhiliate us! What good does an aggressive military strategy provide when you've finally soured all d'etant...

fuel can be made from plants, animals, plastic...

i drive as little as possible, but am always angry when those prices rise. why? because someone is using me (and everyone else) to fatten their wallets.

the rest of the world is beginning to tighten the screws on our exhorbitant lifestyles.

I say demand the return of all foreign aid in any form as long as we're top dog, stablize spending, and stiff the banks!

but that's just me!
 

BrainSellz

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a lil off topic but speaking of the military....the US spends more on the military than all other countries COMBINED.....
 

DiscoBiscuit

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yup....Carter put them up and Ronnie took them down.....sol'ar power is ar'sol power.....

Those panels were largely symbolic. Kind of like the sweater. It's makes economic sense but it ain't macho.

It's like everybody rides a Harley and green is a playing card in a bicycle spoke.
 
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