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nomaad

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go back a couple of pages... that's the best I can do for full garden shots. The plants are so big, you can't see beyond the first row. I might try and get up on the roof of the house... but it'd probably collapse.
 
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I really do not like Oxidate but it is a product that "works" but it is just one of those things that I feel like maybe something else I did worked and maybe it wasn't the Oxidate...and a friend didn't even try it after finding out how phytotoxic it can be....
 

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I just started trimming the Bubbas back hard and uncovered several pockets of PM.

I thought the whole point of oxidate was that it does not cause the same phytotoxicity that h2o2 causes.
 
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I just know that once you mix the Oxidate with water it makes H2O2 and like H2O2 , Oxidate just kills the PM on contact..it isn't to be used as a preventative.That is why I recommended blasting them with Oxidate if you already have PM to sterilize your plants, come with a MycoStop follow up to stop the PM from coming back , and go heavy with a fungal tea root drench so any new growth and old growth gets a re up of love from microlife from the generator down low...FWIW...

Demolition Derby at the fair this Sunday here in Trinity...Bomb Threat and car crashes Woo hoo!
 

MildeStoner

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And that brings me smoothly to my next set of concerns. I am going to be pollinating a couple of branches here soon. Can anybody direct me to a good tutorial on this practice? Or care to share from their own experience? I am most interested in the proper precautions to take to ensure ZERO pollination outside the desired branches. Is a single plastic bag sufficient...?
I think a paper bag with the pollen inside, inside another large plastic will be a bit safer. You cover the whole branch with the larger bag, seal it off round the bottom of the bag using a rubber band or something like that, then open the small bag inside the larger one, shake around a little. Leave the air to settle, then remove the bags very carefully, amke sure there is no wind while you do this. Spraying the pollinated branchs down with some rainwater will prevent the pollen from blowing around.
Also saw a very interesting thread about using water containing pollen to avoid any spreadage...
Garden is looking great btw, crazy improvement from last year..
Peace an Love
Milde
 
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I think a paper bag with the pollen inside, inside another large plastic will be a bit safer. You cover the whole branch with the larger bag, seal it off round the bottom of the bag using a rubber band or something like that, then open the small bag inside the larger one, shake around a little. Leave the air to settle, then remove the bags very carefully, amke sure there is no wind while you do this.
That would work except I'd think when you take that bag off you can not get away from pollen getting disturbed and blown around. It will stick to the buds but since the leaves and branches are dry it will be disturbed very easily. I think just painting the buds directly is very safe and you will see very little seed production elsewhere...even on branches next to the one you pollinate. I've done it that way indoors many times and rare to find a seed elsewhere even with fans blowing and no water spraying.
 
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and go heavy with a fungal tea root drench so any new growth and old growth gets a re up of love from microlife from the generator down low...FWIW...
I never came across much info regarding plant leaf microlife, only once actually, when doing general research. Like I said I did work with a intestinal probiotic health supplement sourced from roots and leaves. It was a bacterial product, actually 2 formulas, so still think good to get a nice bacterial culture going.

I still can't get my head around your rec to use a soil drench to help re-culture leaves a few feet off the ground, and in the case of Nomaad that's like 10'+...lol...unless the fungal spores from the dry soil surface float about? I mean do they crawl up the stem? Probably something simple I'm missing here.
 
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Well bro, when you spray the leaves with nutrient you can find the transference to the root zone some times as soon as a half an hour..I feel that relationship is also present from the roots to the leaves..Just as N P K etc., are transferred from the roots above the soil to form the plant we see...I believe that the microbiology in the root zone also carries the same relationship to the foliage. Why wouldn't it? It seems the plants treated with fungal tea in the root zone even though I only foliar sprayed it twice are getting the same benefit as my neighbor who sprayed on the leaf and applied on the soil at the same time each time and another garden I've seen only spray the leaves and get similar results to me[they are on the grow more program so putting compost tea in their stock tanks is a no no] who has only sprayed twice and done a root drench with it every other time...I hope one day to be able to afford the research to show my theory applied in nature.
 
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Yankee Grower

Why wouldn't it?
I can easily see nutrient molecules being transported from the leaves to the roots and vice versa but don't know about the same with bacteria and fungi. To be honest I have no experience with this or info from research so really can't say what's possible.

Microbial testing is very cheap...it's just having a lab test canna at this point...lol. I'm a 100% organic guy but also like your scientific approach and look forward to anything you discover along the way :tiphat:
 
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I believe paying the lab to test the cannabis would be the expensive part not the actual testing itself ;)
 

nomaad

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Bubbz. (Mystery Bubba Kush, much different from pre-98 as a clone) Very nice classic Bubba taste and smell, even without a cure. The expected coffee and chocolate notes and the kushy funk are all there. I also ran a pre98 from try comb... but she is still on the line. I'll take some comparison shots and compare tastes, aromas etc when I have samples of both. I am very happy with the quality of the nug.

Boy, do I love smoking the homegrown.
 

nomaad

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The Bubba is from a black box harvest... as are the Master Kush nug shots from a couple of pages back. It would be a cool feature if you could look at a thread, filtering only the posts with pics.

There are no worthy plant shots of the Bubbz. Its not very photogenic.

In the last post with wider garden shots there is a pic of uber-sherpa in front of a Bubbz that is done with stretch. Its my smallest plant.
 
aw man any plant to me is photogenic and those nugs speak the truth!:D

very nice nugs though nomad. how much longer for the chem to finish in the black box?
 

HorseMouth

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Nomaad-

I'm psyched to see some of the fruits of your labor from your Black Box. I had 2 Diesels in my Black Box this year, and I took them down on Day 68. I'm enjoying my first pull off the Vaporizer of the Diesel. (A bud I took a week early, cuz I new I'd be out of medicine by now).

I had a hard time reconciling NOT pulling my Tarp (I use a Pond Liner for Darkness) as of August 5th. I continued pulling it through 22nd of Aug. Creatures of Habit I guess. I thought long and hard as to if it was the Full Moon 'Foxtailing' some of your Bud, I still have no thoughts, but I did check the rest of my gear the past three nights during our most recent Full Moon. Since the cycle seems to be around Sept. 20th, I'll be closely checking my Earlier strains for signs of Foxtailing toward the end of their bud cycle during the next full moon.

Final analysis, Black Box Diesel GOOD!

Thanks for all the Tips with the Brix Mix, Hortinova, and the constant pic updates.

Peace.
 
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