Darwin's 2010-2011 Guerrilla Grow

[gronko]

Newspapers and straw mulch on top mixed with a bit of water crystals in the coco and you wont have to water for 3 weeks. Then again it depends on the climate that you are in.

Not to mention straw mulch and newspaper is really light to carry.
A whole bale does not weigh much at all.

i want to add my voice of caution about putting clones out too early. they will start to flower really fast if your days are still below 14 hours. ideally put them out when the days are 15 hours long at least. seedlings are different, they seem to want to grow and get big before they even think about flowering. hence they can be put out earlier then clones. unless you bring a car battery and some kind of light to come on for an hour or 2 in the middle of the night, lol.

speaking of coco mixed with indigenous soil, i did a small experiment pretty late using 50% coco and 50 local soil, i amended the coco with everything i could think of and the plants seem to be doing quite well. specially when i consider how late i put those out. pure coco will be no good i imagine, as you need to water that stuff nearly every day if not every day if it's pure coco in the summer heat. so adding newspaper and water crystals would surely also help with any coco mix. i was able to let the rain wet the coco as it was old coco from several indoor runs and didn't need expanding like the bricks of coco do. so yeah with your dry climate you will need a lot of water to expand the coco bricks if you decide to go that route. in the end perlit or vermiculite might be the better option. or just try a few different mixes.

 

[darwinsbulldog]

get those mothers as big as possible before putting them out...I put a 1' clone out and she is now a 6'x6' bush lol...if you could put out a 2' heavily LST'd clone/mother/whatever they would be monsters come harvest...if you can get 1#+ per plant you wouldn't need to put out as many...I learned that this year...got over 40 out at guerrilla plots and honestly 40 isn't hard to care for but I would rather 20 that would yeild me 1-3#s you know...

yeah true sir i'll do my best, i think i'll put smaller 1' clones out first, see how they go, before throwing the big 2-3' mothers outside, incase the climate's bad and they die, i'd rather the clones cark it than the big mothers.

i want to add my voice of caution about putting clones out too early. they will start to flower really fast if your days are still below 14 hours. ideally put them out when the days are 15 hours long at least. seedlings are different, they seem to want to grow and get big before they even think about flowering. hence they can be put out earlier then clones. unless you bring a car battery and some kind of light to come on for an hour or 2 in the middle of the night, lol.

speaking of coco mixed with indigenous soil, i did a small experiment pretty late using 50% coco and 50 local soil, i amended the coco with everything i could think of and the plants seem to be doing quite well. specially when i consider how late i put those out. pure coco will be no good i imagine, as you need to water that stuff nearly every day if not every day if it's pure coco in the summer heat. so adding newspaper and water crystals would surely also help with any coco mix. i was able to let the rain wet the coco as it was old coco from several indoor runs and didn't need expanding like the bricks of coco do. so yeah with your dry climate you will need a lot of water to expand the coco bricks if you decide to go that route. in the end perlit or vermiculite might be the better option. or just try a few different mixes.

hey mate, thanks for the advice, i definitely think you may be right but i have plenty to play with so i'm not phased if i put them out early and they flower, it's all about learning, if they do flower i'll know better next time, if they don't, they'll do well and again i'll have gained experience. so for me it's the ride that matters more than the final outcome i guess all about the journey haha

re: coco, yeah definitely sounds wise, i might get some bricks and expand them in coming few weeks and mix them in at the site with the local dirt, organic soil and 5in1 ferts that i've already amended it with. then i'll add plenty of water crystals and i think too that i might buy a heap of kitty litter as that's really absorbent but will release water quicker, where the crystals will hold onto it longer and release more slowly. i'll also be adding compost/fish guys/slow release fert pellets and sea weed (after i've had it in the back yard, rotting and having been rained on many times to remove salt, though i'll test it on something else first to make sure it's ok), then i'll chuck news paper on top of that with local mulch on top. if i use straw i fear the really pale yellow colour of the straw contrasted with the bright green colour of the plants would be a dead give away to anyone who happens to fly above in a chopper or the like. what you think??

 

[darwinsbulldog]

Newspapers and straw mulch on top mixed with a bit of water crystals in the coco and you wont have to water for 3 weeks. Then again it depends on the climate that you are in.

Not to mention straw mulch and newspaper is really light to carry.
A whole bale does not weigh much at all.

yeah i definitely think you're right about that mate i just think the straw may be a little conspicuous from above. any recommendation with how many crystals to mix into the soil etc??

 

[darwinsbulldog]

think i've got some pH lock out issues as a few of the plants are suffering from Cal and Fe def by the looks of things. what you think guys?

calcium deficiency? - it's on the lower branches moving up the plant.

iron deficiency?? (sorry for the pic, it's the middle of the new shoots that are pale as). it's on the grow stem, low iron because of lockout or otherwise reduces the growth of new chlorophyll, the green pigment inside the leaves' chloroplasts which allow them to photosynthesize. this one's easy to fix, in previous exp it's been a pH too high. i mustn't have fixed the pH in one of those buckets of water to the right amount last time...?? or the soil's buffering the pH up too far. who knows, i'll see this weekend!

so made up some new water, but had to have a guess when pH'ing because penguin's borrowed the pH meter for the week. just diluted down the pH down in about 1.5L water, and gave decent sized pour of that solution into each (bit less than i normally do to get to 6.5-6.6) and hopefully it's brought that water down to around 6.7-6.8 for now. i'll get the pH meter back on sat hopefully and suss it out then.

 

[gaiusmarius]

they might just be outgrowing the pots they are in?

to be fair about putting clones out really early, i have seen it go well for some, specially with your long season to come. what happens is they start to flower, then revert back to veg, ending up with incredibly bushy plants. in my shorter season that time for the reveg is too precious. as you have enough clones to play with it will as you say be a learning experience.

about the kitty liter, have considered this too before, but i always hesitated and used perlit instead in the end. was too worried about eventual additions that make it lump up when wet. but i would think by reading the label carefully you could find some that doesn't lump up.

sounds like a great plan to have the crystals and the perlit type stuff. have fun lugging all your gear out into the bush.

 

[darwinsbulldog]

only repotted them on the weekend mate. that's when i noticed the tri folate mazar had slight cal def, and in the last 5 days or so it's happened to a few others, they were transplanted into a few different type of pots. so i'd say it must be the water source as i've other plants in the exact same soil mix etc and they're fine. anyway i'll have a better look tomoz with soil ph and moisture testers. cheers for the advice giausmarius

 

[Squiggles]

yeah mate you have some nute lock-outs for sure
wouldnt worry about it to much Darwin as long as there new home is set up properly
any pH issues you have will rectifie themselves in the long run
hope this is some help to you Bro

although after reading the last 15 posts odd you know what you are doing
after a couple of seasons under your belt you will be the one dishing out advice mate trust me, you know your shit just need the confidence now

edit a good flush with rain or RO water mate and mabye some cal/mag could help for the short term while they are in pots

 

[b00m]

Gotz to get that PH pen back off penguin bro, hard to say what's going on but looks like a nute lock out from over here

 

[darwinsbulldog]

thanks heaps guys i might sprinkle a little dolomite on the surface of the pots of those cal def to bump their cal up a little.

 

[shroomyshroom]

yeah mate you have some nute lock-outs for sure
wouldnt worry about it to much Darwin as long as there new home is set up properly
any pH issues you have will rectifie themselves in the long run
hope this is some help to you Bro

although after reading the last 15 posts odd you know what you are doing
after a couple of seasons under your belt you will be the one dishing out advice mate trust me, you know your shit just need the confidence now

edit a good flush with rain or RO water mate and mabye some cal/mag could help for the short term while they are in pots

agreed... %100

 

[DUGG]

Once you get your PH issues sorted darwin you can try a product like earth juice microblast which should be avaliable in oz... this will help correct your trace element/micro nute deficiency .. also i dont know whats in your soil mix but i use dolomite lime in my soil mix which has cal etc in it and never have deficiency probs .

 

[DUGG]

hmm sorry that post was supposed to be sent earlyier today im having issues with my computer god damn i hate windows vista!! reloads old pages have to hit refresh all the time major pain in the ass

 

[darwinsbulldog]

yeah i've got superthrive in the water mate and i use dolomite in the soil mix too so i'm a little puzzled, only thing i can imagine that it is is the ph of the water locking out these nutes, it must be around 7 i think... i'll check it tomoz when i get the ph meter back off penguin, but that's what i'm betting on.

 

[darwinsbulldog]

had a closer look today using a soil pH probe and it's sitting at 7 and a bit above in all of them, so i'll definitely be pH'ing the water to a bit below 6.5 tomorrow to bring the pH of the soil back down to 6.7-6.8ish once i get my water ph tester back. more of the plants are showing iron def, but it's easy to fix so i'm not too worried.

 

[darwinsbulldog]

went to the guerrilla sites this morning early on before 8 hrs of work today! wooop, worked like a slave with penguin for a few hours. i saw some horse shit on the side of the road driving to the place so bought a few bags for 2.50 each! , probably close to 100L of it, also on the way home say a lot of chicken poo for 3.50 a bag so i'll grab 10 or so of those on the way there next time! they will do nicely indeed!

anyway, worked Jay's Patch firstly and amended with the horse shit, i'll probably extend it back a bit too as the season goes on and the sun gets higher in the sky, light will reach the back section better as time goes by.

horse shit

here're some pics of the Sat Patch

half way through turning up the soil

here's penguin standing on the patch

here's just an outline so you get a better idea of the size, probably 20m2+

will hopefully amend both with chicken poo this week , just a little at Jay's Patch and a lot more at the sativa patches as they haven't got anything yet.

darwin

 

[cygan2cygan]

wery good place to plants
sun and space

 

[shroomyshroom]

very nice work mate your making me want to get out and find some dam new spots, horse shit , cow shit and some chiken shit and you will be growing monsters...... might have to make some time and up and grab some of the free horse shit looking awsome bro

 

[darwinsbulldog]

hey cygan2cygan cheers mate

hey shrooms! hehe yeah i was cruising around today and saw a hole assortment of barn yard crap on the side of heaps of roads out in the country. think i'm going to have to go past them each time i head to the guerrilla spot and keep amending

 

[darwinsbulldog]

just wanted to post some pics of the clones i took after i was inspired by high country's spag moss cloning write up! many thanks again for that high country. very simple easy to set up and work! i sprayed once every 2 days and left the lid on the entire time as they dried out a bit too much in the tent with the 400watt when taking the dome off. it's been about 2 weeks now and 50% have rooted well i think. i'll give them another week!

 

[Squiggles]

and another Guerrilla Gardener is born
looking good Darwin
its all comming together for you