Where should I move to in the US?

[ambition]

I am going to graduate college next year. The economy is terrible everywhere, so the advice "go where you can get a job" doesn't apply anymore IMO.

I have grown for years and love it. I plan to get a day job but I also wish to grow on a medium-sized level. I'll have 10 grand in my pocket and a college degree, albeit in a useless major (psychology).

Where should I move to guys? California is probably out. Everybody already has meds there so that market is tapped, the cost of living is insane and there are not a lot of entry level jobs. Colorado is a question mark? I believe the underground market is tapped there too, but I'm not too sure. Cost of living is high near the mountains as well, but better jobs.

My favorite state (if we put aside illegality of cannabis) is North Carolina. Cheap cost of living, humidity isn't THAT bad, and fun, fun oceans.

What do you guys think? I currently live in Ohio and it sucks big time. The midwest is no place for a young man to spend his twenties and thirties IMO.

 

[KharmaGirl]

See this thread, somewhat similar

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=180063

 

[Zen Master]

If you are doing this for passion, Cali.


if you are doing this for money, not Cali.

 

[Zen Master]

just FYI 10 grand out here in CA is nothing, you will have rent covered, maybe, and perhaps a couple 1000 watters tops... unless you're goin ghetto with the setup (sounds like you know whats up though). Definitely can't do "medium sized" out here for 10 g's... unless you're goin outdoor.

I know you already mentioned this in your first post, just I know a lot of people will just spew out CA regardless of what your actual intentions are.


good luck! sounds fun to me

 

[ambition]

Thank you, Zen and Karma. I should clarify that my interpretation of medium-sized is like 2K flowering in tents and a 400 for veg and moms, perhaps in an extra bedroom of an apartment. Perhaps that's "small" or "small-medium" to some.

As to your first post, for me, both. I agree that California is probably a bad idea for me. With, what, 1K a month rent for a 2 bedroom apartment in the hood somewhere, and even then a 15 percent unemployment rate, or whatever it is? Awful awful awful. The advancements in technology and medicine have been great in the past few decades, but overall this is a very tough time to come up in the world, if I dare spend a moment in self-pity.

 

[Throwgar]

Yeah, I was just going to say that the grand total for my burried Cannabunker (16'x16') with everything included (4 x 1000) was close to $50,000. My growing supplies came to about $12,000.

 

[igrowone]

this may be a strange sounding suggestion, but NY has some possibilities
very close to MMJ, could be happening next year, came very close this year
unemployment rate isn't great, but much better than many other places
starting a large grow might not be a good idea when you arrive, but things may get much better soon

 

[ambition]

Thanks for your perspectives, much appreciated. I guess Ohio really isn't that bad for growing, all things considered. It's probably one of the most affordable spots in the country. But I just couldn't spend the rest of my life here and be reasonably happy. I need something new, even if it's not a sexy place like LA or Boulder.

 

[PermaBuzz]

What about Michigan?
Its cheap and has mmj law.
More lakes, swamps and woods than ohio.
swamps are sexy.

 

[mobudda]

I've move to Canada instead, the US is full of dumb rednecks. Canada's economy is doing better as well since they have a balanced budget a huge oil surplus. Given the choice of the US regardless of economy I'd probably move to Cali that's pretty much the only state I have interest in seeing which I haven't. I'd much rather live in Europe as well people are just plain smarter there instead of anti-science religious nuts everywhere.

All the years of prosperity have quite honestly made American fat, lazy, arrogant and stupid and it's just a very very dangerous combination. Income is high here, but that's about the only benefit. At the same time the middle class is losing money while the rich are richer than ever. In general I would recommend against any nation with an out of control wealth gap because you know the result will be losing rights so corporations can make more money and monopolize choice.

Looking at GDP the US has stalled and the EU is pulling away so in the long term Europe is going to be the economic superior of the western world. Of course, for me, there is a the language barrier problem so my choices would be limited unless I learned a new language.

A lot of people seem to like NYC also. I personally don't like DC. Philadelphia is probably my favorite city on the east coast as NYC is just a little to much for me. However I prefer more rural settings which are near big cities and PA i simply more affordable.

If you smoke pot and want good pot laws on your side the choice is clear... go west to Cali. I simply a much more progressive state, at least for the US which is a nation of dumbasses mostly. I know most nations are roughly the same, but it's worst here. People live in complete obedience to corporate monopolies and allow themselves to be easily divided by the media and politics. We are a nation highly divided and in that division we are weak and prone to corruption via wealth but unlike other nations we have empowered the rich to a degree beyond sanity. Perhaps 40 years ago this was a great nation, but since then we've become pawns of the wealthy with no desire to fight back.

There are few opportunities here that can't be had with a better standard of living in other nations. We have one of the lowest longevity rates among comparable nations, insane amounts of people in prison and enormous crime problems as well as an aging infrastructure which half of the nation refuses to invest into because that would be socialism. So we can't have good internet or nice roads and bridges because that's big government spending, but we can spend about half our total federal budget on military which is close to as much as all the other major nations of the world combined. We also made torture legal.

So basically now is probably the worst time since the inception of the United States to live here, as least in a relative nature to the rest of the world. While the US has stood still for 40 years the rest of the world has made huge improvement. I mean.. we don't even have bullet trains here because we are so backward. We are anti-mass transit. We love consumption and think pollution doesn't matter. More than half of American's don't believe in evolution and think the Apocalypse is coming within their lifetime. How sane can a nation be when more than half it's people think the Apocalypse is coming within their lifetime. Sadly those religious nutballs don't take it upon themselves to love they neighbor or be meek in the face of their self fulfilling doom prophecy. Pretty much all the bad shit you hear and see on TV about the US is true and then some. It's a great geography but the people of US need a long hard lesson in humility before this nation can return to greatness. We have become a selfish and narrow minded people who blame government for everything but themselves for nothing.

Given the option I'd relocate to Canada in a heartbeat.

 

[FreshGenetics]

If you are doing this for passion, Cali.


if you are doing this for money, not Cali.

Truer words have not been spoken.

The dank is out west.

 

[ambition]

Canada is not an option, unfortunately. Getting a work visa in Canada is extremely difficult, particularly if you are not a medical professor, rich person, engineer, or other highly in demand worker.

 

[simple green]

North Carolina's penalties (if you ever got caught) are one of the lightest around... The MOST you could get for a grow of that size is a year of prison and/or $5000 fee. (up to 10 pounds). In comparison, in South Carolina it would be the possibility of up to 5 years (under 100 plants) and go north to Virginia you're looking at 5-30 years for growing any amount....North Carolina may be a good spot.

I don't know much about the weed scene in NC except Asheville was dddddrrrrrrryyyyyyy a few summers ago.

I can also tell you from personal experience that the 'mid-Atlantic' cities of D.C. and Baltimore are weed hell for the non grower and that makes it good for the grower looking to make $$$... Lots of schwag, BC bud, and ignorant people that can't get good weed....What's that mean for a decent grower? You can unload pounds for $4500-$5K a pop all day and the shit moves. So many people in the area have no access to good weed and druel over it when they can.....

Also, as bad as the nations economy is, D.C./Baltimore still has some jobs available.

It may not be the life you're looking for, but I also like the eastern panhandle of West Virginia ALOT. Shephardstown is a nice hippy town...still close to the D.C. and Baltimore job/weed markets...

 

[midgethorse]

"I've move to Canada instead, the US is full of dumb rednecks"


Wow considering Canada relies on the South for business and trade income, strange comment. Dont go to Canada, to many French and Blow Jobs like mobudda.

"More than half of American's don't believe in evolution and think the Apocalypse is coming within their lifetime."

Wow, what back woods state do you live in mobudda?

You entire post is some out of this world shit. You paint a dark picture of the U.S. and to be honest im afraid for you man, seems there are some issues at hand.

Bad shit happens here.. Im sure Canada is great, as are tons of other countries. But then again perhaps my experiences are different. You mention NYC and DC. Now I understand why you want to move to Canada. "lightbulb".


I will put lute on your "Apocalypse statistic", And dont send me a wikki link as your ammo.

Midgethorse

 

[igrowkushbitch]

West coast for sure if you want grow. Cali, oregon, or washington all have medical marijuana. I personally live in oregon and if you like having seasons and awesome people oregon is your place. Don't count on any jobs though.

 

[echo_chamber]

Dont come to America if you plan on it benefiting you "financially". The United States is broke and in serious debt, unemployment is higher than 25% across the entire US..

Most of America is conservative/republican, so expect most of America to treat you bad if you are not "American" unless you live in a big city like New York or Los Angeles..

I'd say if you "still" want to live here, move to California, they are the most open minded, and have the most lax marijuana laws statewide. Good luck!

 

[ambition]

I read that too, simple green, but I feel like there is a catch (there usually is with norml guidelines, all due respect to their organization).

For example, in Ohio it states that cultivating up to 200 grams is a misdemeanor. What they don't tell you is that every.single.grow. in Ohio- short a few high profile grannies- is charged with intent to distribute, weighed wet (and in one case I know of personally, the nutes, water, and entire stalks in the grow medium and tank were weighed and this held up in court). Additionally, it's 6 months max for para., and usually they will enforce that.

I hope I'm wrong. Maybe I am. I just feel like in a redneck red state, they will find ways to bury you.

I wonder if there is any way to discover the precedent online?

 

[ambition]

to add on to my previous post, found some information: http://www.performanceimpressions.com/nclaw.htmlglgl

 

[midgethorse]

EchoChamber-

"Most of America is conservative/republican, so expect most of America to treat you bad if you are not "American" unless you live in a big city like New York or Los Angeles.."

Pass that shit, ,Do you know who our president is? Must be a conservative due to your statments. Oh wait, its Obama, a liberal.. weird...
And about people not being nice here, only in New York And La. Give me a break, these hicks and rednecks are some of the nicest people you will ever meet. I live in the sticks, trucks guns and bars seem to be the thing to do. Not my thing but whatever, the point is these people are nice as hell. I have been around the county countless times following the dead and phish, and people are awesome in this country. Just run out of gas on the highway and see how fast someone stops to help.

Oh and BTW California has the top ten cities in America with the worst unemployment rate at over 15% last july. Not putting cali down, Wish I was there.



I understand there are job issues in the U.S.
But its not bad everywhere. People are tied down and do not want to relocate. People willing to relocate find work.
My friend is in the hotel biz. San Antonio Texas. He currently cant fill over one hundred positions. Everything from room cleaners to six digit chefs.
On the other hand in Chicago , one of the hotels had to fill 2 front desk positions and over 200 people came to apply.
So there ARE jobs in some fields. Just hard for some of us to find them. Relocation got me a job right away. For those who can.

I vote San Antonio!
Midgethorse.

 

[KharmaGirl]

"I've move to Canada instead, the US is full of dumb rednecks"


Wow considering Canada relies on the South for business and trade income, strange comment. Dont go to Canada, to many French and Blow Jobs like mobudda.

"More than half of American's don't believe in evolution and think the Apocalypse is coming within their lifetime."

Wow, what back woods state do you live in mobudda?

You entire post is some out of this world shit. You paint a dark picture of the U.S. and to be honest im afraid for you man, seems there are some issues at hand.

Bad shit happens here.. Im sure Canada is great, as are tons of other countries. But then again perhaps my experiences are different. You mention NYC and DC. Now I understand why you want to move to Canada. "lightbulb".


I will put lute on your "Apocalypse statistic", And dont send me a wikki link as your ammo.

Midgethorse

I am Canadian and I'm not french....neither are 99% of the provinces. I also don't know any human blow jobs. Your post wasn't much better....