binaryfission
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the point is, brosef, you are late to this thread. just take your lumps and stop polluting it even more. good day.
ICMAG Administration endorses The Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010
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the point is, brosef, you are late to this thread. just take your lumps and stop polluting it even more. good day.
Sorry JJ, but on this point, I have to speak up--
Prop 215 was voted in, and it says....
Those words were not hidden in there, this is what was voted in!!
Ppl in this Thread have been constantly putting down Med Patients for "getting a Rec for a headache"....but it is fucking in there!! Honestly, if smoking helps somebody feel better...for ANY reason, it is covered by the "Intent" of Prop 215--
We are not all "Fakers"-- If I smoke because it helps me not to have to take Vicodin for my back pain...that is a "Serious" thing--
I get that Prop 19 will help a lot of ppl...mostly because of the "can have all that you grow at your house" part....but please don't try and make us Patients all out to be Evil...we are doing exactly what the Law says we can--
Peace--
"I think I have a headache, I think I'll take a hundred bucks and get a med card"
"I have an ingrown toenail, I think I'll take a hundred bucks and get a med card"
"My balls hurts, I think I'll take a hundred bucks and get a med card"
"I got a hangover, I think I'll take a hundred bucks and get a med card"
"My girl broke up with me, I think I'll take a hundred bucks and get a med card"
"I'm tired today, I think I'll take a hundred bucks and get a med card"
"This sunburn hurts, I think I'll take a hundred bucks and get a med card"
And this is exactly why people don't want Cannabis legalized in California.
"I have an ingrown toenail, I think I'll take a hundred bucks and get a med card"
"My balls hurts, I think I'll take a hundred bucks and get a med card"
"I got a hangover, I think I'll take a hundred bucks and get a med card"
"My girl broke up with me, I think I'll take a hundred bucks and get a med card"
"I'm tired today, I think I'll take a hundred bucks and get a med card"
"This sunburn hurts, I think I'll take a hundred bucks and get a med card"
And this is exactly why people don't want Cannabis legalized in California.
I have all the compassion in the world for those that use and need Cannabis for their illnesses. My compassion ends when I hear people say "just make up an excuse" and you can be 100 percent legal. Do you know how many people I have heard say this over the last few years?
How long before the Government cuts the med program for everyone that needs it based on these comments?
And that's the whole problem with why this Bill may not pass.
It really pisses me off listening to people say this when there's people dying of cancer in my State that can't legally use it.
How long before the Government cuts the med program for everyone that needs it based on these comments?
And that's the whole problem with why this Bill may not pass.
It really pisses me off listening to people say this when there's people dying of cancer in my State that can't legally use it.
Sorry JJ, but on this point, I have to speak up--
Prop 215 was voted in, and it says....
Those words were not hidden in there, this is what was voted in!!
Ppl in this Thread have been constantly putting down Med Patients for "getting a Rec for a headache"....but it is fucking in there!! Honestly, if smoking helps somebody feel better...for ANY reason, it is covered by the "Intent" of Prop 215--
We are not all "Fakers"-- If I smoke because it helps me not to have to take Vicodin for my back pain...that is a "Serious" thing--
I get that Prop 19 will help a lot of ppl...mostly because of the "can have all that you grow at your house" part....but please don't try and make us Patients all out to be Evil...we are doing exactly what the Law says we can--
Peace--
Huh?? I don't get it--
Quit backtracking. On more than one occasion you have stated "anyone can get a med card as long as they have a hundred bucks." Excuse me for not having a lot of support for that statement.
And that's why people don't want this bill to pass.
And that's why people don't want this bill to pass.
The Government cannot cut the Med Program...they have already tried and failed-- It would take another vote from the People--
Just a little tongue in cheek humor about cooter saying anyone can get a med card as long as they have a hundred bucks....
I hope you're right for the sake of those that need it.....
BigBudBill
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WOW. Quotes.
I dont think any of that nonsense is why. Like has been stated: For any other illness which marijuana provides relief.
I really dont understand why people fail to realize that is in prop 215. And what it means. And why it's there. And why people voted it in. It's pretty clear to me and most everyone I know. Just because it was interpreted differently during the Clinton/Bush admins doesnt meant those words mean anything different. I dont really care what someone who has been brainwashed by propaganda thinks about my conditions. Its not up to them. Its the law. I dont like many laws. But they are laws. RULE OF LAW.
Prop 215 is law.
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Let me answer a couple of these questions for you bro--
No, you cannot go into any Dispensary without your Original Rec...they don't care about the State Card, as it has none of your personal info on it, only a picture, verification #, and expiration date--
That brings me to the misconception many here seem to have, that you are now in a data base...
http://www.mpp.org/states/california/frequently-asked-questions.html
Hope this helps clear some of that up--
Thanks bro. That makes sense. Sounds pretty good. If I were doing much transporting I would probably get a state card. Otherwise I see no reason to sign in.
BigBudBill
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And please dont tell me that people intelligent enough to vote did not understand what this would be used for: or any other illness for which marijuana provides relief.
Dont pretend this meant something like "ONLY SERIOUS ILLNESSES". It doesn't. Never did. Its very clear to anyone who doesnt have their head stuck in the sand.
Dont pretend this meant something like "ONLY SERIOUS ILLNESSES". It doesn't. Never did. Its very clear to anyone who doesnt have their head stuck in the sand.
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What makes you think the government is going to end mmj? Your pretty much a fear monger with that comment and couldnt be more wrong. Why would you want 215 to be gone? Oh, you think its BS thats right. Obviously spoken as a man who isnt in Cali because there is absolutely ZERO truth to your assertion. ZERO. 215 is here to stay.. unless another law renders it moot.
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all the DEA has to do is start raiding and closing co-ops again so it is true that the government can effectively stop the med program if they chose to do so.
um...No--
The can effectively close the Dispensaries...but they cannot kill 215--
They tried intimidating the Dr's....didn't work--
you're right
if there are no dispensaries
215 is still in full effect for the benefit of all.
No change at all.
a lie is a lie and therefore unethical regardless of your
motivation.
and these assholes who have lied to obtain a rec
from some 'doctor' and now insist on arguing for
continued prohibition are a perfect example of
how rationalizing unethical behavior taints the
mind.
while i agree that mj has medicinal value, thinking
that all who want to smoke should get a doctors
recommendation is rediculous as that also means
that those who choose not to lie should continue
to be harassed and arrested simply because they
choose not to lie, in fact, if we can make it legal
for everyone to use, recreationally, that will only
help those who truly do need it for medical reasons
as future research will be much easier if it ceases to
be a controlled 'drug'.
while i have and will continue to lie to LEO if accosted
by them, i choose not to lie to some hack doctor or even
a legitimate doctor so that i can have an affirmative defense
the next time i get hassled over weed, i'd rather it were
legal and regulated like any other crop for human
consumption.
fuck all these assholes who grow under 215 and then
sell there weed to the highest bidder and fight for continued
prohibition to protect their income stream.
and that doesn't apply to all those growing under 215,
just those drug dealers who masquarade as patients
so they can feed the black market.
peace, SOG
word.
Sometimes people get so used to eating the shit they have been fed and they forget what food (or freedom) really tastes like.
Let me answer a couple of these questions for you bro--
No, you cannot go into any Dispensary without your Original Rec...they don't care about the State Card, as it has none of your personal info on it, only a picture, verification #, and expiration date--
That brings me to the misconception many here seem to have, that you are now in a data base...
http://www.mpp.org/states/california/frequently-asked-questions.html
Hope this helps clear some of that up--
great points!
I don't have a state card because...why give them money every year when I don't have to? It's not because I am afraid of a list....LAPD and the DEA have raided about a dozen clubs I was a member at...they take all the records with them...so for me the state list is really nothing to be worried about...just a waste of money.
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