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Curing: Jars vs Baggies .. ??

mdk ktm

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I just got done using the blue ziploc freezer bags, the ones that fit like a 1/2p each. And it worked out really good, the smell came out really nice after about a week, and they were so easy to air out. I dont think i will ever use jars again for large quantities.
 

Hundred Gram Oz

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I just got done using the blue ziploc freezer bags, the ones that fit like a 1/2p each. And it worked out really good, the smell came out really nice after about a week, and they were so easy to air out. I dont think i will ever use jars again for large quantities.


I hear ya on that last point, if you have a 10Lb harvest, that's a lot of jars LOL! Jars are the best option for quality preservation but if your a commercial grower....go with the bags.
 

Greyskull

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grayscull your kind of naieve

if youve served 300+ regularly too then you know how much time it takes everyday prepping your goods (a pound breaks down to 128 1/8ths! it gets tedious) and prepackaging for the day. because i choose not to "glass jar cure" bulk buds for immediate distribution does not make me naive.

i can fit 35-40grams of buds per jar when using these
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so with a case of 12 jars i can store about a pound.
THATS GREAT FOR PERSONAL STORAGE
but rather inconvenient for short term.... i know this becasue i walked that line a few times and got over it fast i had other things to do (like answer the phone or drive to laguna for a delivery).
i do keep (store) my own personal smoke stash in the jars

but for bulk buds that are gonna be on the move shortly....

for a 5pack im supposed to break it down into individual z's for storage even though its only gonna be in my hands a few days/week, max???? right.... too much work not enough reward/no reward - thats double work (breaking down the big bag into little jars to only break the little jars down again)

storing bigger quantities of buds in a foodsafe bucket is way more efficient storage solution than the using glass jars.
 

Tony Aroma

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Second no plastic bag can be airtight so trichrome and mosture loss are the fate of plastic curing.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought moisture loss is the point of curing. You hang dry (or whatever) to get most of the moisture out, then cure to get a little bit more out slowly over a longer period of time.

It sounds like what you're saying is that you do not open your jars during curing. That would be the only way to prevent moisture loss, keeping the jars sealed. If you open a jar, it is no longer airtight. And if that's the case, what you're doing is storing, not curing. That's completely different, and I agree that airtight glass containers are best for storage.
 

asstastic

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I hear ya on that last point, if you have a 10Lb harvest, that's a lot of jars LOL! Jars are the best option for quality preservation but if your a commercial grower....go with the bags.
no then you use a 5 gal bucket not shity bags
the only reason some one would use a bag after reading this thread is if they dont wanna accept the facts and dont wanna admit there wrong
baggies are inefficent
 

asstastic

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Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought moisture loss is the point of curing. You hang dry (or whatever) to get most of the moisture out, then cure to get a little bit more out slowly over a longer period of time.

It sounds like what you're saying is that you do not open your jars during curing. That would be the only way to prevent moisture loss, keeping the jars sealed. If you open a jar, it is no longer airtight. And if that's the case, what you're doing is storing, not curing. That's completely different, and I agree that airtight glass containers are best for storage.
yes once i start the cure i never open th jars till i smoke thats how you cure burping is use less to me and lowers the quality of the cure
hey grayskull im sorry if i affended you as a person i was just using you as a example
please understand i apprietiate your effort and devotion to your patients
and the quality of the bud you serve them i just know it would be better if you jar cured it
but in your reality its highly time consumming and costly cuz of the weight youde lose in the cure so more power to your bag cure
but jars are still the best
 

GrnMtnGrwr

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oh my lord this is easy theres science to it baggies let out air cuz there more pourase than glass
and grayscull your kind of naieve if you think just cuz you can keep 300 patients you cure the best out of your bud
ive slung swag to more people than that on a regular and they always came back
my point is your patients may think yours is the best around but the truth is if you cured right youde have better weed
i know guys just like you the grow bomb and ruin it by putting it in a bag theres no to little cure in a bag and it makes the weed taste blan
curing is to evaporate cloraphil content of the plant matieral to make a higher end concentration of thc

Who the hell are you to say what is the "right" way to cure? Is there really only one way? Either way, most of your posts have consisted of you voicing your opinion as if it were fact.

How can you glass fanatics not see the benefit of slowing down the progression from fresh to curable? Slower dry = better quality, isn't that right? This is the same as people putting their bud in paper bags, except a bit more airtight.

Ziplocks for extending drying? Yes. Long term curing? No.


Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought moisture loss is the point of curing. You hang dry (or whatever) to get most of the moisture out, then cure to get a little bit more out slowly over a longer period of time.

It sounds like what you're saying is that you do not open your jars during curing. That would be the only way to prevent moisture loss, keeping the jars sealed. If you open a jar, it is no longer airtight. And if that's the case, what you're doing is storing, not curing. That's completely different, and I agree that airtight glass containers are best for storage.

Curing should be done in air tight containers, after a slow process of drying them to their optimal moisture content. People burp them when they start their cure to get any excess moisture out. After initial drying, the outer buds will feel dry, but the moisture is still inside. After being put in an airtight container the moisture spreads throughout the buds evenly, and the airtight container will come to rest at a certain RH%. If that RH% is in the right range, you can leave the container sealed indefinitely, and the bud will continue to cure. If you over-dry it, you miss your chance to cure.
 

3rdEye

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Speaking for only myself i look at the use of glass and plastics on an environmental level and not just a curing issue by itself. I understand that large scale commercial growers have other needs to address and everyone is entitled to cure however they see fit. For my patients safety and mine i choose glass as it really is the only thing that can contain the smell well enough IME.
 

nvthis

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What I do know about various plastics. There was a study done, showing that bottled water in plastic bottles, after a certain period of time becomes dangerous to the health when consumed. This is because of the various chemicals in the plastic.

Does reusing or freezing plastic water bottles cause them to break down into dioxins or carcinogenic compounds?

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/plasticbottles.asp


Microwaving Plastic Releases Cancer-Causing Agents

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cookplastic.asp
 

Greyskull

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hey grayskull im sorry if i affended you as a person i was just using you as a example
please understand i apprietiate your effort and devotion to your patients
and the quality of the bud you serve them i just know it would be better if you jar cured it
but in your reality its highly time consumming and costly cuz of the weight youde lose in the cure so more power to your bag cure


i am not offended by being used as an example, just use me as an example properly and based off facts.

where have i ever said i cure anything in plastic bags?
i have been suggesting the use of food grade plastic buckets for storage. i do smoke lots of pot so maybe i forgot something ive said but i dont think ive spouted on about the wonders of plastic bag curing being my thing, chief...
and i never said anything about curing causing weight loss...

maybe your not as astute as youd like everyone to believe....

i for one dont think you have much experience serving large numbers of clients. i am not bragging or talking shit just saying it like it is. you obvioulsy havent spent large amounts of time in front of a scale (mines a legal for trade A&D EK 6000i btw... whats yours?). or maybe you dont appreciate your time like i do... in my reality lol.

let me ask you this: when you pick up a 5 pack from a source do you take all the buds out of the packaging and stuff them into glass jars to cure them before you start moving the buds? i sure the fuck dont...

it should be noted in a perfect world all buds would be purchased/sold after its good and cured and packed in glass jars with airtight tamperproff tops... but we dont live in a perfect world most of the bulk buds ive bought havent ever seen glass until they reach the end user/patient. its the growers job to present presentable product for distributers and its not the distributors job to further 'ripen the fruit'... more work for the distributor the more the end user is gonna pay... and we all know how much everyone likes paying for buds anyways...

that said every bud ive grown and (dried ala somas technique) moved has always made new & old end users happy and wanting more - something i cannot say for some of the buds ive purchased in bulk in the past....
 

asstastic

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i am not offended by being used as an example, just use me as an example properly and based off facts.

where have i ever said i cure anything in plastic bags?
i have been suggesting the use of food grade plastic buckets for storage. i do smoke lots of pot so maybe i forgot something ive said but i dont think ive spouted on about the wonders of plastic bag curing being my thing, chief...
and i never said anything about curing causing weight loss...

maybe your not as astute as youd like everyone to believe....

i for one dont think you have much experience serving large numbers of clients. i am not bragging or talking shit just saying it like it is. you obvioulsy havent spent large amounts of time in front of a scale (mines a legal for trade A&D EK 6000i btw... whats yours?). or maybe you dont appreciate your time like i do... in my reality lol.

let me ask you this: when you pick up a 5 pack from a source do you take all the buds out of the packaging and stuff them into glass jars to cure them before you start moving the buds? i sure the fuck dont...

it should be noted in a perfect world all buds would be purchased/sold after its good and cured and packed in glass jars with airtight tamperproff tops... but we dont live in a perfect world most of the bulk buds ive bought havent ever seen glass until they reach the end user/patient. its the growers job to present presentable product for distributers and its not the distributors job to further 'ripen the fruit'... more work for the distributor the more the end user is gonna pay... and we all know how much everyone likes paying for buds anyways...

that said every bud ive grown and (dried ala somas technique) moved has always made new & old end users happy and wanting more - something i cannot say for some of the buds ive purchased in bulk in the past....
1. this threads name is cureing in baggies vs. jars if yodont cure in bags or jars then why do you say bags are better
2.i smoke weed thats in bags and i prefer the better cured weed from a jar
3. when i used to sell i would always complain about my guy selling uncured buds in bags to me so i cured them in jars and people that know me and my guy i got the weed from would buy my jar cured as appose to his baggie buds
4. how do bags hold moister better than jars now thats just dumb and ill get a link if your to lazy to do it your self
5.i use a 20$ scale and i make every 1/8 a big nug and some small buds i pick out all stems you can see and put the 1/8's back in jars seperated i did that cuz i am a custy and a boss and i know what custys want ''good jar cured bud'' but will take what they can get thats what selling weeds all about
5. i said you lose weight from curing and i suggested that could be why you dont cure
i dont claim to know every thing but but i do know what i know
like this thread of course the best way to get a cure is by jar but some may prefer ther weed bag dried (notice i said bag dried its cuz theres no such thing as bag cured baggies are to pourace
so:moon:
 

baet

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anyone pulling outdoor weight will most likely use plastic turkey bags to store and cure their nuggets. it also holds the smell.
even the kind gets bagged, it's the way it is. it's the way i do it as well as the way almost every outdoor grower i personally know, besides the guys doing small hobby grows.

try jarring 20-100 elbows and get back to me...

jars have their place though in personal satchels and small reserves.
 
Just like at Safeway! Paper?Plastic?Glass?


yes please.


:chin:

"... When the buds are dry enough for the stem to snap when broken in half, I place the finely manicured buds in a large glass canning jar, and leave them in there closed over night. Being in the closed jar makes the buds re-hydrate from the inside of the stem to the outside of the buds. I then open the jar again, making sure the cannabis is the perfect consistency, texture, smell, and flavor.
I then put my jars away in a cool dark place and they are good for at least 18 months or longer...."

That is after a 10-14 day dry and a 'finger' 'manicure'.


Boy. that Soma guy is cool!


And, I'll smoke weed if its been wrapped in banana leaves or newspaper. Fuck it, if I can get it lit, its a smoke.
 
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Hundred Gram Oz

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no then you use a 5 gal bucket not shity bags
the only reason some one would use a bag after reading this thread is if they dont wanna accept the facts and dont wanna admit there wrong
baggies are inefficent


I agree with you on the 5 gal bucket, I know a few that do it, but the real commercial growers should be getting rid of the weed as soon as its grown! That's how it works around here.
 
1. this threads name is cureing in baggies vs. jars if yodont cure in bags or jars then why do you say bags are better
2.i smoke weed thats in bags and i prefer the better cured weed from a jar
3. when i used to sell i would always complain about my guy selling uncured buds in bags to me so i cured them in jars and people that know me and my guy i got the weed from would buy my jar cured as appose to his baggie buds
4. how do bags hold moister better than jars now thats just dumb and ill get a link if your to lazy to do it your self
5.i use a 20$ scale and i make every 1/8 a big nug and some small buds i pick out all stems you can see and put the 1/8's back in jars seperated i did that cuz i am a custy and a boss and i know what custys want ''good jar cured bud'' but will take what they can get thats what selling weeds all about
5. i said you lose weight from curing and i suggested that could be why you dont cure
i dont claim to know every thing but but i do know what i know
like this thread of course the best way to get a cure is by jar but some may prefer ther weed bag dried (notice i said bag dried its cuz theres no such thing as bag cured baggies are to pourace
so:moon:
Have you read anything other than your own typing? He never said anything about bags....nothing. If you're gonna start shit, at least get your facts straight.
Hey Greyskull, bro....It's not fair, you trying to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.:tiphat:
 

Family

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I'm kind of confused. For large amounts (Say 10 pounds) what's the BEST way to store for a few weeks or even months? And do you store them right after you get done drying?
 
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