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A perfect cure every time

jawnroot

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Hey, do you guys wash your masons before you use them? The fresh ones right from the package? On one hand, I could easily dish wash them, but on the other, I don't want to get any funk food smells in them...
 

gingerale

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definitely wash them, they smell funky to start with. just use regular soap and water, then towel dry thoroughly and youre good.
 

igrowone

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i've been drying my buds for over 2 weeks, the northeast humidity has been pretty high
over 60% RH most of the time, tried to start curing about 4 days ago, but grassy odor after 12 hours had me bail
tried to jar up again, still was 64% humidity in jar, too high for comfort from my last experience
curious if others have had similar times drying in high RH?
 

jawnroot

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i've been drying my buds for over 2 weeks, the northeast humidity has been pretty high
over 60% RH most of the time, tried to start curing about 4 days ago, but grassy odor after 12 hours had me bail
tried to jar up again, still was 64% humidity in jar, too high for comfort from my last experience
curious if others have had similar times drying in high RH?

I've dried several times in the northeast. Never took longer than ~5 days. Two weeks seems exceptionally long...too long, in fact. Do you have constant airflow moving in there, or are they just hanging? I've always had 150-300 cfm movement 24/7 in fairly small spaces when drying. Didn't much matter what the RH was, they were dried to snapping in 5-7 days.
 

igrowone

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I've dried several times in the northeast. Never took longer than ~5 days. Two weeks seems exceptionally long...too long, in fact. Do you have constant airflow moving in there, or are they just hanging? I've always had 150-300 cfm movement 24/7 in fairly small spaces when drying. Didn't much matter what the RH was, they were dried to snapping in 5-7 days.

still air, in a dark closet, smell pretty good, nirvana PPP
stems don't snap, but the funny thing is the stems are hollow, not sure if that is common or not
RH seems to be dropping tonight, maybe try again in the morning
 

jawnroot

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still air, in a dark closet, smell pretty good, nirvana PPP
stems don't snap, but the funny thing is the stems are hollow, not sure if that is common or not
RH seems to be dropping tonight, maybe try again in the morning

Dude, you need to get air movement in there quick. As I said, with every grow I've done, the ventilation fans were running full tilt 24/7 when drying...and I'm pretty sure this is common practice.

For an analogy, imagine a piece of fruit. Let it sit in a still, dark closet and it will rot. However, if you have a strong fan blowing on it the whole time, it'll just shrivel up and dry out.

I'm not trying to get you worked up or be a negative nancy, but it's surprising you don't have mold already.
 

igrowone

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Dude, you need to get air movement in there quick. As I said, with every grow I've done, the ventilation fans were running full tilt 24/7 when drying...and I'm pretty sure this is common practice.

For an analogy, imagine a piece of fruit. Let it sit in a still, dark closet and it will rot. However, if you have a strong fan blowing on it the whole time, it'll just shrivel up and dry out.

I'm not trying to get you worked up or be a negative nancy, but it's surprising you don't have mold already.

concern noted and appreciated, i'm glad for all help i get
i have used the same drying arrangement before, really worked out well last time, the nl#5 cured out to this incredible citrus flavor/odor
PPP buds feel dry, other than the stems that don't snap, maybe this is a strain deal
i've watched for mold very carefully, not a hint, and i have lost bud to mold before in my 1st cure attempt
here's my rational, if the RH in the air is good(below 70%), then shouldn't this be effectively curing? not in jar but still at a good RH
kind of late now in any event, bud seems stable, smoke is excellent
thanks again for helping, i'm damn new to curing for sure
 

jawnroot

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concern noted and appreciated, i'm glad for all help i get
i have used the same drying arrangement before, really worked out well last time, the nl#5 cured out to this incredible citrus flavor/odor
PPP buds feel dry, other than the stems that don't snap, maybe this is a strain deal
i've watched for mold very carefully, not a hint, and i have lost bud to mold before in my 1st cure attempt
here's my rational, if the RH in the air is good(below 70%), then shouldn't this be effectively curing? not in jar but still at a good RH
kind of late now in any event, bud seems stable, smoke is excellent
thanks again for helping, i'm damn new to curing for sure

Thing is, with still air the microclimate around the buds will be 100% humidity until they equalize. It's more complicated than this, but in general if your RH is above 60% and you have drying buds, you need air movement, if only a small fan blowing the air around. Normal drying timeframe is 5-7 days for a "'till it snaps" dry (with proper ventilation). With Simon's method, it's more like 3-5 (again, with proper ventilation).

Curing is also more complicated than humidity alone. One has them in a sealed container to trap in aroma and keep oxygen exposure to a necessary minimum. A sealed container also provides a more or less stable environment, so they're not experiencing rapid swings in temp/humidity, and aren't absorbing noxious pollutants/odors from the air. The glass also prevents UV/light degradation.

It's a lot of effort to grow bud, only to go nimbly-bimbly at the end. At least throw some damprid in the closet with them. Anyone will tell you having wet buds for two weeks is a recipe for disaster...but I digress.

Good luck man, I wish you the best.
 

igrowone

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^^^ good info, kind of suspected parts of that
i've double(and triple) checked the buds, look very good, smell very good
they really do feel dry, except for the stems not snapping
i suspect the stems on this pheno are a bit different, i've never seen hollow stems before
but i have been warned, so i'll have no one to blame if trouble erupts
 

igrowone

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guess i never paid attention to the stems, but now that you mention it, that does sound right
i did a another try in the jars, RH has gone down to 60% from 65% that i had 4 days ago
i want it just a bit lower, just not completely ready to trust meter, maybe after after a few more cures
 

Harinama

Member
last harvest i jarred a few days earlier than normal, and opened jars off and on over the next few days.

I think this will provide a better cure, as i think they were getting too dried out before jarring before. I also am noticing a difference in aroma, much more yummy.
 

nvthis

Member
Hey Simon, would it be too much to assume that the wet bud (considering the cellular properties of the cure) begins to cure as soon as it is cut? I am trying to understand this 'sweet spot' or 'cure zone' a little clearer. Is reference made due to this being the rh window when the bud can cure relatively safe and free from issues of mold, etc.? Or is there some other consideration? Thanks...
 

THC123

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All i can say is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6ALySsPXt0


really just do it , i gave up on curing and haven't cured for 5 years , and now with simon's method , it is going great and i am gonna jar up my whole harvest

it is really important to not let them dry untill stems snap

This is what i used to do before , and when i jarred it , the herb and the jar after a while began to smell like grass or hay , the smoke always became harsher in jars

that's why i quit curing

But now , after approx one month , the weed is real yummy and smooth and the smell is great , although it took approx 3-4 weeks for the smell to devellop , I never got that hay or grass smell

i must say i am not using the caliber 3 as i am looking for a place to order it with bank transfer and all places ask for fucking credit card , but the meter i have now seems to do the trick



So thanks again Simon:dance013:
 

THC123

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I have gotten a good curein 3 weeks , after 2 weeks it is okay but a bit "green"

after one month it is good and i bet after 2-3 months it is divine
 

simon

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I need to know if I can get a good cure in under two weeks this way.

No, not really. This said, stain/grow-dependent, you may be able to bring a strain to market in 2 weeks with the illusion of a cure. For example, FMS Grapefruit can lose its Chlorophyll queues and smell very fruity within 2 weeks, provided the RH is brought down quickly and the bulk of that time is spent curing. I've done it with GF and Sweet Seeds' S.A.D, but you really need the right plant.

Simon
 
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