superbolan
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This could be a real niche market if its legalized
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No pure sativas in med clubs.
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I was thinking te same thing. It is very true as soon as they see brown there like theres the door. When I grew out Destroyer that strai cures to a light brown color.
Which is precisely what I meant when I said that they do not really deserve the name "clubs". If things are as you say, they are fast-buck businesses. Not quite the same.
So true!
I've been growing for 5 years, and only now do I feel like I'm getting a faint glimmer of understanding. Would be so much easier if it was legal, though.
Here's to some REAL medi-clubs in the future...
Yeah, Ive lived in cali my whole life and still havent tried any long flowering sativa other than brick weed. Id love to try some properly grown stuff... seems like if marketed right it could be a good business itself. I tried to grow some sativas once but they hermi'd after about 6 weeks, havent tried any since... maybe not a good idea to get seeds out of some bammer. looks like Ill have to just buckle down and give it another round with some better seeds.
Dont you guys grow sativa outdoors over there ???
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OrganicOzarks
In my little neck of the woods (literaly) The only thing anyone will smoke is Sativa Dominant strains. There are a lot of older hippies, and that is all that anyone likes. You want to try to throw out a heavy indica and no one will give a fuck. They will look at you like you just pulled out some brick weed. Which they would smoke over Indicas. Irony.
love it!
bigdaddyc9
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I would kill to get my hands on some true couchlock indica,really!
wow im a bit surprised about that , i would have thought given the outdoor grows that sativas would go great there ...
can anyhone tell me what latitude cali goes down too??
CaptainTrips
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Most likely there is just not enough demand... or someone would fill that demand. Also, growing 16+ week strains indoors is just not worth it for most people, even those growing their own... especially when you have sativa hybrids which maybe not as good as a "pure" sativa, but are still good.
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mrred
southwind grew pure thais in a greenhouse in south CA
welcome to the clubs.....out here kids complain if it doesnt give them couchlock high....we had some really good sativas and most of the custies complained it didnt get them high enoguh..out here purple and kush are king.
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mrred
Complainers, fuck em. Sativas or rare weed arent about the kids, its for the older crowd. I like how sativas will put you in a better frame of mind.
Southwinds greenhouse, Thai is the big one in the background
Southwinds greenhouse, Thai is the big one in the background
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Flying High
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I got some Nev. Haze from Divinity Tree in SF not long ago; I felt like I was stealing it at $45 an 1/8.... I thought it had a good spicy flavor; not the acid trip I've heard of, but a bell ringer none the less.
Fun Stuff!!!
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Fun Stuff!!!
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The trend toward vertical growing gives me hope that we might start seeing more Sativas offered commercially. I'm running a super Mex-leaning pheno of Chimera's 1972 Highland Guerreran x B130 Blueberry in a poor man's vert setup right now and she's responding very well. My first try at such a grow. Just a circle of plants in drip-fed Airpots around a bare hanging 1K HPS. The Mex line he used was a pure 1972 landrace, and under my light mover growing the Guerreroberry with other strains turns into a twelve week episode of 'Wrestling with Medusa'. I won, but it was a tough bout. Now it's a big green manageable Bundt cake forest of head-tingling Mexican goodness, and my patients are fully stoked that more GB is coming at a better price.
Ace's Golden Tiger (Malawi Gold x Meao Thai) looks like an extremely promising indoor pure Sativa F1. There are a few grows shows in the Ace forum, and the F1 plants grow tall and columnar with branches held close to the meristem, excellent calyx/leaf ratio and extremely dense looking buds. Plus, it's fucking Malawi/Thai, does it get better? The smoke reports are almost scary. I was completely broke when they last dropped at Seedboutique and stayed that way until they were gone. I'm hoping they drop some more soon. From the looks of it, it would make for a fantastic tight SoG planting or a close-packed vertical setup. I'll bet it would yield like crazy in the right hands. Their Bangi Haze looks the bomb, too. A 100% Sativa Congo/Nepal hybrid that's been taken to F6. And only 9 weeks!
Also, if one hopes to grow and offer Sativas commercially, a good curing facility is a necessity. They absolutely need a good, slow cure to be properly smokeable, and this takes time, effort and space.
I truly believe there is a huge market for properly grown old-school Sativas out there, but I don't think the current state of the clubs is going to support it or allow it to develop. I also truly believe that it is possible to improve garden efficiency to make them commercially viable for the grower. Clubs select with their eyes and their bottom line. They want the dank because that's what most people want. And that's cool, there's plenty of it out there for everyone who wants it. I'd say that patients looking for old-time medicine should start looking into delivery services rather than clubs. Because someone is going to have to cater to this market sooner or later. Maybe they already are...
Ace's Golden Tiger (Malawi Gold x Meao Thai) looks like an extremely promising indoor pure Sativa F1. There are a few grows shows in the Ace forum, and the F1 plants grow tall and columnar with branches held close to the meristem, excellent calyx/leaf ratio and extremely dense looking buds. Plus, it's fucking Malawi/Thai, does it get better? The smoke reports are almost scary. I was completely broke when they last dropped at Seedboutique and stayed that way until they were gone. I'm hoping they drop some more soon. From the looks of it, it would make for a fantastic tight SoG planting or a close-packed vertical setup. I'll bet it would yield like crazy in the right hands. Their Bangi Haze looks the bomb, too. A 100% Sativa Congo/Nepal hybrid that's been taken to F6. And only 9 weeks!
Also, if one hopes to grow and offer Sativas commercially, a good curing facility is a necessity. They absolutely need a good, slow cure to be properly smokeable, and this takes time, effort and space.
I truly believe there is a huge market for properly grown old-school Sativas out there, but I don't think the current state of the clubs is going to support it or allow it to develop. I also truly believe that it is possible to improve garden efficiency to make them commercially viable for the grower. Clubs select with their eyes and their bottom line. They want the dank because that's what most people want. And that's cool, there's plenty of it out there for everyone who wants it. I'd say that patients looking for old-time medicine should start looking into delivery services rather than clubs. Because someone is going to have to cater to this market sooner or later. Maybe they already are...
Perhaps not for full-on Equatorial sativas, but should be more than fine for highland sativas like Himalayan Indian, Ethiopian and so on.
Then there's this weird thing called "breeding"....
...and "selection".I imagine some Himalayan-Equatorial crosses would do extremely well.
Didn't Haze originate in Cali?
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@OrganicOzarks:
> "Irony".
- yes, but intelligence, too!!!
Good points, PondeLftHndSide and mrred, that's kinda what I'm talking about, too.
Perhaps the "fly in the ointment" is that dank-indi weed is grossly overpriced at the moment in terms of the effort it takes. Current prices would be OK for sativas, I guess (long flowering, long cures) but glitter weed should really be selling at a third of the price, shouldn't it?
C'mon let's have some of that real capitalism that people seem to talk so much about....
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Don't get me wrong, I like a good couchlock as much as anyone once in a while, but that's the thing - once in a while! Also, a good heavy indi is great for scraping you off the ceiling after a proper session. But ALL the time... sheesh... hell, no.
(Lovely greenhouse, BTW, mrred)
Perhaps the "fly in the ointment" is that dank-indi weed is grossly overpriced at the moment in terms of the effort it takes. Current prices would be OK for sativas, I guess (long flowering, long cures) but glitter weed should really be selling at a third of the price, shouldn't it?
C'mon let's have some of that real capitalism that people seem to talk so much about....
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Don't get me wrong, I like a good couchlock as much as anyone once in a while, but that's the thing - once in a while! Also, a good heavy indi is great for scraping you off the ceiling after a proper session. But ALL the time... sheesh... hell, no.
(Lovely greenhouse, BTW, mrred)
