Ph-PPM Perfect Advanced Nutrients Formula???

[ColoradoMed]

IIRC



That should be cool to watch.

And I agree, there's nothing wrong with tooting your own horn if you've got cause to toot it. There's enough BS "we've got the best burger ever recorded in history" commercials on TV it seems silly to complain when someone says their fertilizers are best. Burgers are a matter of personal taste, not so much with nutes.

But hey, if you grow better with X than Y stick with X. AN works for me so that's what I use. No skin off my nose if you're happy with something else.

It's funny though... all the hating on AN is what made me want to check it out in the first place...

What would happen if McD, Burger King or Wendy's started advertising their SUPER BURGER a year and a half ago (Better than any other burger) and didn't produce it for CUSTOMERS TO PURCHASE. And they kept saying they would start selling the SUPER BURGER "NEXT MONTH.....NEXT MONTH.....NEXT MONTH...But they kept toting the great taste of THEIR SUPER BURGER in their adds. I'm sure the general public would be saying 'SHUTUP ALREADY....POOP OR GET OFF THE POT'....Don't advertise it if it's not available!
I have used AN for the past 6 years now. I have used no other nutrient except AN. I have no experience with other nutrients to compare it with.
When they don't TELL THE TRUTH and brag about their GREATEST IMPROVEMENT IN NUTRIENTS EVER in the same sentence, I began to wonder about how good their nutrients are.
But that's just me....When I state something, I do it.....
ColoradoMed.

 

[ItsGrowTime]

GH Floranova has been available for years and is ph-ppm perfect straight out of the bottle already. 8-9ml/gal and you're growing.

It amazes me how much buzz AN stuff generates but with little to show for it. Plant nutrients aren't hard to formulate. Some supplements do help but all this hubbub over this product or that product (particularly when it has a huge marketing push!) is just noise.

 

[Sensibowl]

GH Floranova has been available for years and is ph-ppm perfect straight out of the bottle already. 8-9ml/gal and you're growing.

It amazes me how much buzz AN stuff generates but with little to show for it. Plant nutrients aren't hard to formulate. Some supplements do help but all this hubbub over this product or that product (particularly when it has a huge marketing push!) is just noise.

Yeah, I have to say that AN generates buzz cause they make good nutes. Sure, there are a lot of folks who think AN is all marketing, but speaking as a grower who has used AN for years, I talk about how they work because they do and they have for me.

I always have to wonder that when the buzz of AN is questioned whether people have given them a chance.

Really, how can anyone critique nutes when you haven't used them? I mean, it's not marketing that makes my plants grow, it's the nutes.

I think the pH PPM system is something to look into because it sounds like it might be easier to handle. But I also have a pretty good thing going in my room right now.

Why fix something that isn't broken?

But thanks for your ill informed rip on products you don't use. That really isn't helping anyone out.

Real experience = that's what counts when it comes to growing advice and expertise. Newbies - watch out for folks who can't back up their claims!!!!

 

[ItsGrowTime]

Yeah, I have to say that AN generates buzz cause they make good nutes. Sure, there are a lot of folks who think AN is all marketing, but speaking as a grower who has used AN for years, I talk about how they work because they do and they have for me.

Lots of stuff works. Are you saying AN is the only nutrients that "works"? I sure hope not. Simply saying that AN works doesn't mean a thing. It better work. The question is whether it works well enough to be so much better than other nutrients that it justifies the extreme prices and "buzz" surrounding them. FYI, this thread was about nutes that were never released. How are those nutes working out for you?

I always have to wonder that when the buzz of AN is questioned whether people have given them a chance.

Really, how can anyone critique nutes when you haven't used them? I mean, it's not marketing that makes my plants grow, it's the nutes.

If it aint broke and all that. You're right, I haven't used AN products. No need to when other products do the job just fine, with longer track records and much more affordable prices. And no bs "marketing hype"...

I think the pH PPM system is something to look into because it sounds like it might be easier to handle. But I also have a pretty good thing going in my room right now.

Did you read the thread? THE NUTRIENT THIS THREAD WAS STARTED FOR WAS NEVER RELEASED!

Why fix something that isn't broken?

That's what I'm saying. GH has been putting out the best products on the market for a long time without the inflated costs and hype. Growing a weed isn't rocket science and the nutrient profile isn't hard to formulate. Cannabis' requirements were discovered and documented a long time ago.

But thanks for your ill informed rip on products you don't use. That really isn't helping anyone out.

Guess what? You haven't used them either. Once again, the product this thread was based on was never released to the public. Years of "delays" isn't helping anyone out either.

Real experience = that's what counts when it comes to growing advice and expertise. Newbies - watch out for folks who can't back up their claims!!!!

Says the guy with 27 posts, a join date in the last year, and no grow diaries. Are you an AN rep? You sound like one. Or maybe just a fan boy...

 

[Sensibowl]

Lots of stuff works. Are you saying AN is the only nutrients that "works"? I sure hope not. Simply saying that AN works doesn't mean a thing. It better work. The question is whether it works well enough to be so much better than other nutrients that it justifies the extreme prices and "buzz" surrounding them. FYI, this thread was about nutes that were never released. How are those nutes working out for you?



If it aint broke and all that. You're right, I haven't used AN products. No need to when other products do the job just fine, with longer track records and much more affordable prices. And no bs "marketing hype"...



Did you read the thread? THE NUTRIENT THIS THREAD WAS STARTED FOR WAS NEVER RELEASED!



That's what I'm saying. GH has been putting out the best products on the market for a long time without the inflated costs and hype. Growing a weed isn't rocket science and the nutrient profile isn't hard to formulate. Cannabis' requirements were discovered and documented a long time ago.



Guess what? You haven't used them either. Once again, the product this thread was based on was never released to the public. Years of "delays" isn't helping anyone out either.



Says the guy with 27 posts, a join date in the last year, and no grow diaries. Are you an AN rep? You sound like one. Or maybe just a fan boy...

Hey, full disclosure - no, I'm not an AN rep. I wish. Maybe I could make some money from being on these boards so much. LOL

Yeah, I don't post my grow diaries. Why? Um, had some legal troubles in the past and if I get caught again, let's just say my wife would be pretty pissed.

Yup, I know this product isn't out yet. I heard it's going to be though. So, yes, I'm extrapolating a bit by saying that I'm sure it's good. But then again, I do that with other companies, so it makes sense to me. If you like some of their products, then you will probably like all of their products.

But I know this isn't always the case. I just got a little caught up in the discussion.

In the end, it doesn't matter if you believe who I am or not. It doesn't matter to me whether my grows impress anyone or not. All that matters is that I know I do well with the setup I have and I know that others could too.

We're all just here to share info. I'm not trying to piss anyone off, just speaking my mind. For whatever it's worth!

 

[cultiv8]

You say fan boy like it's a bad thing.

Of course it's only natural to assume if someone likes something different than you that there's something wrong with them that makes them see things differently than you do.

After all, each and every one of us is the sole proprietors of truth and accuracy, leaving all the rest of us fumbling idiots in the dark who'd be better off listening to the ones who know how it "really is".

 

[HydroIndustry]

Damn Big Mike... maybe you need to lay off the vitamins. Your multiple personalities are talking to themselves again.

For those who aren't aware yet, "cultiv8", "Sensibowl", "hookamha", and "Stonercool" are all your favorite big guy, Big Mike Straumietis, in the flesh, doing what he does best, pretending to be a consumer of his own products. Hi Big Mike! Waiting for you to say I'm wrong...

Big Mike also appears in this thread as "hugetom80s" and "BCNeil".

 

[ItsGrowTime]

You say fan boy like it's a bad thing.

Of course it's only natural to assume if someone likes something different than you that there's something wrong with them that makes them see things differently than you do.

After all, each and every one of us is the sole proprietors of truth and accuracy, leaving all the rest of us fumbling idiots in the dark who'd be better off listening to the ones who know how it "really is".

Another real low post count repping AN. Ive seen a trend over the years. Either AN is so great that your yields are so scary huge and you dont ever want to post online for fear for Feds.....or......or....

Truth...is hard to find. Some of us look for posted history. I'm one of those people. Otherwise, we're all just stumbling in the dark.

 

[Scrogerman]

If Thats True, & B-Mike is all those people posting then i find that funny-asfuck, but how do you know this, i doubt this is true man!
Anyways, AN seem to be the ONLY company designing, researching, & actually producing products JUST for MJ, so AN are cool in my book & i will buy there products if the claims are correct with PH/PPM perfect. When the fuck can i buy some so we can all lay this shit to rest once and for all. Fk me Big-M you are gonna make billions out of this one if it does what it says on the tin man. & good for AN if it does. You dont see the GOB promoting MJ growing products like AN do, they seem to be the only ones, ffs come on people give AN a break, we are MJ growers and should be supporting this BS lol, AN, ok they are dishing out the marketing hype, but they are the only ones, Have you all seen the Million Dollar Challenge, he's called out all the big manafacturers & put his money where his mouth is, i dont see any fker else doing it & i dont see anyone taking up the challenge either. Yes im gonna give this BS a try, get it released so we can try it, its gonna either make AN Gods in their own right, or its gonna Bankrupt the people. Its gonna be an interesting one for sure. Personally i cant wait to get my hands on the shite!!lol. Go Chelates Go........

 

[HydroIndustry]

Million Dollar Challenge My Ass

Million Dollar Challenge My Ass

Have you all seen the Million Dollar Challenge, he's called out all the big manafacturers & put his money where his mouth is, i dont see any fker else doing it & i dont see anyone taking up the challenge either.

Big Mike's nutrient challenge was pitched at the "Edifice of Evil", specifically Hydrofarm, Sunlight Supply, General Hydroponics, Botanicare, and Technaflora in his challenge video.

Funny thing is, Hydrofarm and Sunlight Supply don't make nutrients... so where's the challenge in that? Plus, you don't make a "million dollar" challenge without first putting the "prize" in an escrow account, so that any challenger would be somewhat assured of receiving the money if they won. However, Big Mike hasn't even shown a bank statement showing he has a million dollars, much less demonstrated it is available for the challenge. Oh, and his "rules" for competing are just slightly tilted in Big Mike's favor. And I've asked this before as well, there are dozens of nutrient companies now, does the challenge only apply to the three nutrient manufacturers he called out? Or is it open to any nutrient manufacturer?

 

[Scrogerman]

He was referring to GH and the other GOB man(good old boys as he calls them)! Specifically nute makers! theres your challenge! Go watch the video, then you'll know who hes on about etc!¬) Like i said i dont see any one stepping up to the challenge, and he is referring to anyone not just the big 3! Im sure 100% that he'd take any challenge given by other manafacturers too! He seems pretty confident to me man!

 

[ColoradoMed]

AN has the PH/PPM Perfect listed on their web site now. It's been on there for a week that I know of. I called them and they said (AGAIN) that it isn't released for sale yet. At least it's now showing on their site. I've also checked the online nutrient companies and it doesn't show up there. I'm guessing the online retail companies will want to get their old products sold out first (since it appears AN won't be making their old formula anymore, it's not on AN's site now).
AN's old formula has worked great for me over the last 6 years. Just wish they would release it ALREADY.
I DO admire AN for coming out and saying their nutrients are formulated for MJ (Which the other companies haven't done). Sooooooo I guess the other nutrients aren't plant specific.
To me, it appears, AN is helping us grow mmj by also coming out and stating this is what their products are for. Too bad the other nutrient companies do have the BALLS to do it.
What is GH and the other nutrient companies doing to further the cause? NOTHING! But they will definitely take your money for their products, won't they.
I support AN because their products are superior. I've seen people stating AN nutrients are too expensive but have NO information supporting this. WHO has done a study on cost comparison with other nutrient brands? I haven't seen one anywhere.
I just know, from experience, I get superior yields.
ColoradoMed

 

[Scrogerman]

http://advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/docs/AdvancedNutrients-TheSystemMagalog.pdf

Read This Lot & then Tell me you dont want to try it! i'll call you all BS asses lol, i really think AN have cracked it n im just waiting for it to be released, its on its way & they have all the pics of the bottles that are about to come out at long last!

 

[Bolivar]

Damn Big Mike... maybe you need to lay off the vitamins. Your multiple personalities are talking to themselves again.

For those who aren't aware yet, "cultiv8", "Sensibowl", "hookamha", and "Stonercool" are all your favorite big guy, Big Mike Straumietis, in the flesh, doing what he does best, pretending to be a consumer of his own products. Hi Big Mike! Waiting for you to say I'm wrong...

That's what this thread needs: another unfounded conspiracy theory. Thanks for the contribution....

 

[cultiv8]

I already told him he was wrong on a different thread, it doesn't matter to him. He'll continue to miraculously forget that every time he wants to post the same thing again.


If I said I was Big Mike (which I'm not, obviously) he'll just say that's proof he's right.

When I say I'm not Big Mike, he says "well of course Big Mike would say that - proof that you are him".


Classic conspiracy theory BS. The complete lack of proof that they faked the moon landing is proof that the conspiracy covered up the truth. The evidence that shows we really went to the moon is proof that the conspiracy covered up the truth.

How he expects anyone to believe him when he's calls himself "HydroIndustry" is beyond me.

 

[Scrogerman]

I hope you are so i can tell you how proud i am of you that you are the only makers backing MMJ ok its more the medical side but who cares its MJ & thats it. I am going & cant wait to get on the PH perfect tec, it'll make or brake AN, & already ive seen wierd things from it, the partner of AN on their latest Vid promo is in a grow of great looking buds but covered in nute burn, Now its just ph perfect & not ppm perfect lol, i want AN's stuff to be what they say it is, its a revolution if it is, but already looks are not good, go check out growers underground and see what i mean! lol ppm perfect my ass! The Big buds they are but nute burned too fk too lmao! So after all the phd's and science, whats fucking wrong with the product, it doesnt seem to work right oh dear bye bye AN lol! Maybe give ICmaggers the job, they'll do a better job for ya hahahahhaahi I HOPE FOR SOME REASON THAT IT WASA FIRST TIME GROWER TRYING IT OUT SO YOU COULD PROVE A POINT BUT I DOUBT IT, But i Hope Im Wrong!

 

[Bolivar]

Page count on this thread is porked for me. It shows a page 10 now, but when I click on it it keeps sending me back to page 9...


EDIT: Well NOW there's a page 10.... LOL.

 

[HydroIndustry]

Just the Facts, Maam... Just the Facts

Just the Facts, Maam... Just the Facts

That's what this thread needs: another unfounded conspiracy theory. Thanks for the contribution....

If you do just some basic research, you'll see how it's not a theory, it's a fact.

 

[Bolivar]

If you do just some basic research, you'll see how it's not a theory, it's a fact.

It's a fact that all those people you listed are actually AN folks? Please point me to the proof of that. Exactly what kind of research would I do to learn that, anyway?

 

[Scrogerman]

Yeah come on Hydro, how the fk do you know that all those folk are BigM, i personally dont give a monkeys but id like to know how you know this for a fact bro, you would have to know the Man very personally, like be his lover or something, Oh the scandal, lol!
'you did say they were all Big M himself in person did you Not? Im still waiting on a response on why its No longer PPM perfect aswell as PH perfect lol! Still waiting!