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dominicangreen

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and another thing i can get 4 lbs of regs but to grow some realy good strains its a whole different topic.lbs that are worth 5k i'm happy happy with
 
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last run 7000w lights and it was suppost to be 10 gallon grow bag but at the end of my grow i sized a it was the same as using 5 gallon buckets

i could have did better but 5 gallon soil i dont see more

So you got 11lbs out of 7 lights? Thats 1.57 lb per light, how is that better then anyone else?
 

joe fresh

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also cant blame AN if your mixing with other nute company its not right


no i thginkk you misunderstood me, before i used to use the jacks pro at 650 ppm every watering.

now i went out and got everything on the AN plus calculator, with sensi a+b grow and connoisseur a+b for base nutes, and im following the chart for feeding.

my point is i desinged my room exactly like my family friend, 19 lights, co2, sealed room, the whole shit ya know? im aiming for 40 lbs minimum, but im looking to see 60. if i get 60 then i see it as being good ferts, if i get less than 40 then i will never buy AN again, its as simple as that
 

dominicangreen

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So you got 11lbs out of 7 lights? Thats 1.57 lb per light, how is that better then anyone else?

you should grow 11 lb from 5 gallons bucket not enough root space
and compair that to your grow i did fine

how cum people get different reasults from different nute? is there a reason for this
 

toohighmf

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expecting any more than a # per light is ideal.. your going for benchmark+. Is this your first biggun? If I was running 19 lights, I would hope for 19 and be ecstatic w anything above that. however, I grow low yielding "elite" strains for the most part. Show me 40 off 19 w bubba kush or SFV OG and I will copy your every move! unless your vegging over a month... lol
 

dominicangreen

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i dont work for no nute company so i dont give a fuck and how this thread turns out i get no discount so diss em all you's like.i'm here on icmag enjoying myself as this site has many people here that are a hands full of a help and we all need to learn something knew each day.i'm still learning here i may even learn from you's AN diss likers
 

dominicangreen

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expecting any more than a # per light is ideal.. your going for benchmark+. Is this your first biggun? If I was running 19 lights, I would hope for 19 and be ecstatic w anything above that. however, I grow low yielding "elite" strains for the most part. Show me 40 off 19 w bubba kush or SFV OG and I will copy your every move! unless your vegging over a month... lol


you took the words out my mouth
 

toohighmf

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don't get too heated Dom. it's been a good discussion and no one is talking any shit to you. 11 off 7 is a nice haul. especially @ $5k/#!!!
can't wait to see how my recipe vs. a modified+ plan works out.
 

joe fresh

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expecting any more than a # per light is ideal.. your going for benchmark+. Is this your first biggun? If I was running 19 lights, I would hope for 19 and be ecstatic w anything above that. however, I grow low yielding "elite" strains for the most part. Show me 40 off 19 w bubba kush or SFV OG and I will copy your every move! unless your vegging over a month... lol

my strain is a high yielding strain, skunk1xbasic5(m39) from super sativa seed club(1987), i veg normally for 3 weeks but this time i vegged for 4 weeks and that was a mistake because as you know i have a high RH and PM problem, then i bloom for 53 days, you can cut at 48-49 days but i let it go a couple of days, its just the basic growing style, you have to know whats the best growing style for your plant.

with the m39 it is a short bushy plant that grows side branches as tall as the main stem, so its best to fim it then have the right # of plants to create a sog with these bushes..

if i was growing a sativa that had much less branching then i would put more plants and veg them less and trim all the saide branching and grow 1 nug sog.

the key in getting alot of wieght is not wasting light and maximizing your strains growing style.

remember the bigger the plant then the more stem and leaf there is compared to bud.

a smaller plant will have a larger bud to leaf ratio
 

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and for dominicangreen.

to maximize your yield witht that SSH you got is simple. in those pics you got i noticed that the ssh pheno you got grows huge main colas, this is perfect.

all you have to do is veg for 1 week at most from clones and then flower, trim all side branching and make sure you get that 1 cola plant. up the numbers of your plants to make it a sog.

make sure there is no wasted light(light hitting the floor is wasted light), if you dont have co2, get it, the growth rate is a huge diff.

just by changing your grow style i personally guarantee that you would get 14-18lbs or more. that ssh looked like a huge yielder. all you have to do is maximize its potential.

it may be more work doing a sog with more plants and all but more work=more bud, i hope you would try this and see for yourself, i hope the best for ya
 

dominicangreen

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and for dominicangreen.

to maximize your yield witht that SSH you got is simple. in those pics you got i noticed that the ssh pheno you got grows huge main colas, this is perfect.

all you have to do is veg for 1 week at most from clones and then flower, trim all side branching and make sure you get that 1 cola plant. up the numbers of your plants to make it a sog.

make sure there is no wasted light(light hitting the floor is wasted light), if you dont have co2, get it, the growth rate is a huge diff.

just by changing your grow style i personally guarantee that you would get 14-18lbs or more. that ssh looked like a huge yielder. all you have to do is maximize its potential.

it may be more work doing a sog with more plants and all but more work=more bud, i hope you would try this and see for yourself, i hope the best for ya


in my grow i said this plant does better as multible colas growing is the way she likes.i worked her for over a year and i fully understand her likes.shes a 13 week pheno but its pure fire.look at my grow now with same thread new updates in two days 20 plants 8000w lights i'm aiming for 20 lbs with one of them being alaskan ice pheno realy sativa
 
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you should grow 11 lb from 5 gallons bucket not enough root space
and compair that to your grow i did fine

how cum people get different reasults from different nute? is there a reason for this


I'm just going by you posting photos of your impressive as stated b y you AN grow yet the numbers you listed don't amount to anything spectacular. Its good numbers but nothing like what people say AN does.

As for my last completed grow if I had 7 lights at 22.5 oz that would have been 9.84lb in 52 days total for the whole crop using as AN says inferior plant food.

By the way I do know people who get 2+ using Conny but thats only because they grow a high yielding strain that will give you more headache then high. If they did the same setup with PK/Bubba or Green Crack they would never get those numbers. I would say they would be close to 1.5.
 

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in my grow i said this plant does better as mutible colas growing is the way she likes.i worked her for over a year and i fully understand her likes.shes a 13 week pheno but its pure fire.look at my grow now with same thread new updates in two days 20 plants 8000w lights i'm aiming for 20 lbs with one of them being alaskan ice pheno realy sativa

if you say so im sure you know your strain better than me. i was just judging by the huge main cola that it would be an even better yielder in a sog one cola style.

i as well have some SSH from ghsc, i got 3 phenos, from 3 plants, i made clones on #1(tall lanky pheno), #2(short bushy pheno), and #3(mix of both phenoes), and then i set 2 of the moms in flower and then the other will go in flower as soon as i get some clones off her(#2), so over time i too will get to learn this strain and see how she does.

heres a few pics of my #1 and #2 pheno
 

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how cum people get different reasults from different nute? is there a reason for this

There's a huge reason for this and its the same reason we've been having this thread. All foods made by the popular manufacturers are with in 5% of each other.

It all has to do with the strain, environment and the grower. Yes the food does matter as the plant needs food but as long as you know what chemicals are needed by the plant and what products can give you those chemical you can get killer results with bare bones foods.

When I was in the industry (7+years) I rolled my eyes almost every day seeing some of the crack pot products and claims made by every manufacturer. You'd be surprised how most of those manufacturers mix those products. It involves vertical tanks, eco-plus/jet pumps and raw salts. Or you pay a lab/manufacturer to produce the product for you like say beneficial microbes and then package it up in your warehouse. It was interesting to see how many ways dextrose or black strap molasses can be sold as a product or how they manufactured potassium silicate? Yah straight out of the 55 gal drum into bottles. Calcium peroxide? Yup out of the drum into the 500/1kgg/2.5kg containers. Hydrogen peroxide, lol out of the 55 gal barrel into bottles. Whats even more impressive is someone making claims that those products are better then the competitors.
 

toohighmf

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if you don't care about plant numbers, SOGn is going to outpace trees. you can get an extra harvest or 2 a year. way less power consumption/time wasted. I've thrown 50 SFV under a light w no veg time and got 1.5+ per hood. It's a 65 dayer, so, I can pull 5 crops down a year with a 6th about halfway done if I'm really on it. vegging yields, but if you go by grams per KwH for the year, I got 4k in actual ballasts running and am smoking you guys in the gpwkh dept. Not bragging, just trying to prove the point that SOG'n a shit ton of plants gets you the same yields with more cropping potential and less energy consumed.
People who veg out stuff while the blooming crop is finishing and ready to refill the day you tear down, still wasted energy even if they veg under T-5'S OR CFL's. not to mention more maintenance. I like to do things george foreman style. I set it and forget it!
 

toohighmf

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Advanced actually mixes most of their own line. some of the powders are already formulated for other fertilizer co's like bud blood is rambridge's Dry FLOWERS. barricade was 100% potassium silicate poured from a 250g drum into smaller bottles. obviously Hyox is laboratory h2o2.

GH only makes and bottles Their flora series in house. the rest of the products I believe are outsourced. reason being, it's comforting to know someone who really understands their products, can make them consistently, and not have to worry about quality control. Again.. when have you EVER heard of a bad batch of GH?
 
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Advanced actually mixes most of their own line. some of the powders are already formulated for other fertilizer co's like bud blood is rambridge's Dry FLOWERS. barricade was 100% potassium silicate poured from a 250g drum into smaller bottles. obviously Hyox is laboratory h2o2.
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Yes you can get silicate, calcium peroxide or h202 from Brentag and start your own line :)



Again.. when have you EVER heard of a bad batch of GH?

There have been batches where the GH grow loses its color but not as much as AN grow turning murky/clear but that was like in 2004/06. Didn't see that too much after that.

Nutrilifes Heavy Weight bottles use to explode once every few years, Olivia bottle would bulge out, Floralicious Bloom bottles (black ones) once or twice would buldge out from fermenting. Zyme use to stink like rotten eggs after a while. Voodoo use to go bad and stink like shit. Rootech and Roots and the Grotek gel losing color or fungus growing in them. Earth Juice bottle would bulge out and go bad. Man tons of products use to go bad from a lot of manufacturers.
 

dominicangreen

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if you say so im sure you know your strain better than me. i was just judging by the huge main cola that it would be an even better yielder in a sog one cola style.

i as well have some SSH from ghsc, i got 3 phenos, from 3 plants, i made clones on #1(tall lanky pheno), #2(short bushy pheno), and #3(mix of both phenoes), and then i set 2 of the moms in flower and then the other will go in flower as soon as i get some clones off her(#2), so over time i too will get to learn this strain and see how she does.

heres a few pics of my #1 and #2 pheno

joe look at pic #2 i see lack of nutes as your leaves have red veins so i guess its genetics
im like people can not face it
 

dominicangreen

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don't get too heated Dom. it's been a good discussion and no one is talking any shit to you. 11 off 7 is a nice haul. especially @ $5k/#!!!
can't wait to see how my recipe vs. a modified+ plan works out.


i could of lie and say i got 20 lbs but thats not me.hope your search turns out good as i have a hands full right now doing two grows good rabbit/luck i'll keep hoping too
 
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