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how do you feel about american grown porcini?
how do you feel about american grown porcini?
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Neg rating for???? Someones a little baby...
And still waiting for this so called Yield increase and such... i dont remember reading anything about pot in stamens book. Any evidence i could read would be great. I've been growing mushies for some years now, and have come across the idea... but theres obviously reasons people dont do it...
And still waiting for this so called Yield increase and such... i dont remember reading anything about pot in stamens book. Any evidence i could read would be great. I've been growing mushies for some years now, and have come across the idea... but theres obviously reasons people dont do it...
quadracer
Active member
Looking good chefro420! Nice shrooms. I just fruited some blue oysters, and have a bunch of jars of Shiitake spawn that is ready to go.
I am real interested in growing Stropharia rugoso-annulata outdoor, but I don't have a culture yet. It seems to be readily available though.
Last year I had some Panaeolus antillarum grow from the horse manure that was mixed in with the soil.
As well as Panaeolus cinctulus, which is mildly hallucinogenic and grows in practically every state:
I am real interested in growing Stropharia rugoso-annulata outdoor, but I don't have a culture yet. It seems to be readily available though.
Last year I had some Panaeolus antillarum grow from the horse manure that was mixed in with the soil.
As well as Panaeolus cinctulus, which is mildly hallucinogenic and grows in practically every state:
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CT Guy
Something not mentioned yet in this thread:
I've heard of some growers using mushroom stands (www.fungiperfecti.com) to grow different types of mushrooms in the same room as the cannabis as means of increasing CO2 levels, rather than buying an expensive machine. In addition, you'll get a mushroom crop that you could then also sell or eat!
I've heard of some growers using mushroom stands (www.fungiperfecti.com) to grow different types of mushrooms in the same room as the cannabis as means of increasing CO2 levels, rather than buying an expensive machine. In addition, you'll get a mushroom crop that you could then also sell or eat!
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secondtry
Hey CT,
That has been mentioned in the past (tho not in this thread like you mentioned), but I don't think it's worthwhile for Co2 considering cannabis ideally uses 800-1,000 ppm of Co2 (over about 1,200-1,300 ppm is not good for most all plants, it reduces amount of active "rubisco" thus lowering the rate of photosynthesis). Ambient Co2 these days if 300-400 ppm. It would however be really neat to measure the Co2 increase from mushroom in media or the ready-to-grow bags (from Paul) in a closed-circuit room.
All the best
That has been mentioned in the past (tho not in this thread like you mentioned), but I don't think it's worthwhile for Co2 considering cannabis ideally uses 800-1,000 ppm of Co2 (over about 1,200-1,300 ppm is not good for most all plants, it reduces amount of active "rubisco" thus lowering the rate of photosynthesis). Ambient Co2 these days if 300-400 ppm. It would however be really neat to measure the Co2 increase from mushroom in media or the ready-to-grow bags (from Paul) in a closed-circuit room.
All the best
nachohippie
Member
nice set up great lions mane is it a iso?? great straw basket i have some bluoysters fruiting on cardboard rightnow and some lm spawn ready to fruiti have some mushrooms fruiting in a normal room during winter , prob 40% or less. Also under all the leaves and branches , near the soil the humidity is higher. The point is to use the mushroom mycelium to benefit the plants , not to grow mushrooms per se.
Its funny, it seems like most of the growers who visited here have cultivated or once cultivated some species of fungi. Seeing those edibles makes me want to take my flow hood out of storage and start making some edible iso's.
I've dabbled in some p. cubensis cultivation. Interesting thread.
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CT Guy
It would have to be a closed circuit room, I agree. I like the concept of it, with the 2 species respirating beneficially for each other, and getting to harvest both crops. Like I mentioned, I have no experience though, just heard that it was being done.
I think CO2 is one of the least important variables when it comes to growing. Much better to focus on your soil and other aspects, BUT since everyone in here is a fanatic by definition, it's one more thing worth trying to maximize potential growth and yield!
I had lots of 'wild' musrooms growing up with my cannabis indoor gardens. Many ectomycorrhizal (and I believe some endomycorrhizal; truffles) produce edible fruiting bodies. This is according to Mr. Stamets. The reason, besides eating mushrooms, that I would try it would be nutrient provision to the plants. There are several species recommended for nutrient supply in a vegetable garden or lawn.
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secondtry
Hey Ct,
I tend to think Co2 is very important when it comes to growing cannabis (and any other plant, e.g. greenhouse) in terms of carbon assimilation by leafs and increase in Pn (rate of photosynthesis). I don't add Co2 to increase weight, I add it for increased Pn which usually in cannabis means increased yield, growth, etc., but also increased heath/activity of soil food web (due to a healthier plant).
When cannabis and most other higher terrestrial plants where evolving in the early stages the atmospheric Co2 was anywhere from thousands of ppm to around a thousand ppm, to lower than a thousand ppm, to today with less than 500 ppm. Cannabis has evolved to use high levels of Co2 and that is why Co2 is so good for cannabis, by increasing Pn.
But I agree, 2 kingdoms respirating beneficially for each other is cool
It would have to be a closed circuit room, I agree. I like the concept of it, with the 2 species respirating beneficially for each other, and getting to harvest both crops. Like I mentioned, I have no experience though, just heard that it was being done.
I think CO2 is one of the least important variables when it comes to growing. Much better to focus on your soil and other aspects, BUT since everyone in here is a fanatic by definition, it's one more thing worth trying to maximize potential growth and yield!
I tend to think Co2 is very important when it comes to growing cannabis (and any other plant, e.g. greenhouse) in terms of carbon assimilation by leafs and increase in Pn (rate of photosynthesis). I don't add Co2 to increase weight, I add it for increased Pn which usually in cannabis means increased yield, growth, etc., but also increased heath/activity of soil food web (due to a healthier plant).
When cannabis and most other higher terrestrial plants where evolving in the early stages the atmospheric Co2 was anywhere from thousands of ppm to around a thousand ppm, to lower than a thousand ppm, to today with less than 500 ppm. Cannabis has evolved to use high levels of Co2 and that is why Co2 is so good for cannabis, by increasing Pn.
But I agree, 2 kingdoms respirating beneficially for each other is cool
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secondtry
hey MM,
My main concern is those types of fungi (maybe not truffle) but those which have fruit-bodies and are saprophytic (i.e. non-microscopic) is I worry they could be 'eating' the media (or the OM in the media) just like they do compost when growing fungi for their fruit-bodies (to those who don't know what "fruit bodies" are, they are commonly known as mushrooms). I wonder happens to the compost or EWC in the media if those fungi mycelia colonizes it.
I assume the degreation of OM would not be huge but I am curious if it would have an effect on media properties like porosity.
I am sure they do benefit the plant but I wonder at what cost...
All the best
My main concern is those types of fungi (maybe not truffle) but those which have fruit-bodies and are saprophytic (i.e. non-microscopic) is I worry they could be 'eating' the media (or the OM in the media) just like they do compost when growing fungi for their fruit-bodies (to those who don't know what "fruit bodies" are, they are commonly known as mushrooms). I wonder happens to the compost or EWC in the media if those fungi mycelia colonizes it.
I assume the degreation of OM would not be huge but I am curious if it would have an effect on media properties like porosity.
I am sure they do benefit the plant but I wonder at what cost...
All the best
All that I want to grow, successfully, are these!!!!!!!
Is that too much to ask?
LOL
CC
Is that too much to ask?
LOL
CC
All that I want to grow, successfully, are these!!!!!!!
Is that too much to ask?
LOL
CC
You and everyone else in the world!!
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secondtry
I am SOOOO going to see the new Alice in wonder land! And Im going to the hookah bar in an hour!
P.S. Isn't it still legal to order dried fly agaric (Amanita muscaria) in the US?
P.S. Isn't it still legal to order dried fly agaric (Amanita muscaria) in the US?
Tactical Farmer
Member
Not my work but a pic I saved.
quadracer
Active member
All that I want to grow, successfully, are these!!!!!!!
Is that too much to ask?
LOL
CC
I've been inoculating Oak and Pine seedlings with Amanita amerimuscaria (among others). Hopefully they will take. It is such a beautiful mushroom, perhaps the most beautiful.
I am SOOOO going to see the new Alice in wonder land! And Im going to the hookah bar in an hour!
P.S. Isn't it still legal to order dried fly agaric (Amanita muscaria) in the US?
Let me know how it is, i'm going with a chick next week to see it. Than again enough poppies and MJ make any movie good to me. i can sit there for hourssss + no pain= heaven.
Quad- good luck with your experiments, I always thought that would be the only way to do it. Nice to see mycellium running! Do you think you would've been better burying it closer to the roots?
quadracer
Active member
Yeah, that makes a little more sense. There isn't much root space as is, and the seedlings seemed to survive the transplant. I made four holes that go all the way to the bottom of the pot, and would also blend mushrooms into a slurry and water the seedlings. The sporulated water would go all the way to the bottom and exit onto the ground.
Another great book is "Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms" by Paul Stamets. He outlines a lot of methods to introduce mushrooms to host trees, all of them require some patience.
I talked with a member of the local fungus group who had close to 100 lbs. of Chanterelle's by pouring the cleaning water outside on some of the Oak trees. It took 8 years but he gets amazing flushes now every year. He also said that the Chanterelle mycelium would sneak in flower pots and chanterelle's would pop up there.
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secondtry
@ Quadracer: dude...umm, you rock!
@ BB88: will do, I'm jealous of your opium, it's so much better for my broken back than cannabis...but cannabis is so much better than pills. This fall, or maybe next week (it's still cold enough) I may buy some Tasmanian variety poppy seeds from the grocery store and guerrilla farm them (or well, let them farm themselves, kind of a set-it-and-forget-it method).
@ BB88: will do, I'm jealous of your opium, it's so much better for my broken back than cannabis...but cannabis is so much better than pills. This fall, or maybe next week (it's still cold enough) I may buy some Tasmanian variety poppy seeds from the grocery store and guerrilla farm them (or well, let them farm themselves, kind of a set-it-and-forget-it method).
