Bud Blood Test

[ShroomDr]

I get it too, ive never been upset, and i love experiments too. my camera crapped out, and i stopped taking pics, but ive done a few logs and pictorials.

 

[barnyard08]

I'm glad to see all is well now lets get back too the test

 

[NFR]

Uh oh, I smell a rat; trugreens has eleven posts and every one looks like a stealth Big Mike post. BTW, I have read through 30+ pages of toohighmf's posts and he is the real deal NFR. If I ever needed advice about using AN gear, I would listen to him. He may hate his ex-employer but he knows their products. Nice looking grow!

Aside from the rep claim and only momentarily... I never doubted he was the real deal.

Theres not a lot I'm going to be adding besides a couple of pics for the next while. These are real busy times right now. I'll post those pics after the weekend and show a couple of early flowers and what the room looks like after I pull out a couple more of the old mothers I had in there.

Ther's no doubt that the room without bud blood streched more. On the other hand, at 12 days for both rooms, there was still a little happening. No earlier bud set like mentioned. The non bud blood room filled out perfectly like expected. I definately need to make more room in the bud blood room. All but 4 blockberry's are coming out. They do not fit well on my shelves to begin with. There's going to be some big chunks out of this side. The roots were pushing pro mix out like an overflowing bucket for the first week.

 

[barnyard08]

blockberry sounds interesting who's it by?

 

[NFR]

blockberry sounds interesting who's it by?

I forget actually. They are pretty rare beans and not on the market. There was two packs being auctioned when I picked them up. I havent seen any others listed over the years. Including me, I think theres only 3 or 4 people on here who have posted about having this strain.

 

[barnyard08]

I forget actually. They are pretty rare beans and not on the market. There was two packs being auctioned when I picked them up. I havent seen any others listed over the years. Including me, I think theres only 3 or 4 people on here who have posted about having this strain.

Can't wait to seee how they turn-out in the stadium. I just thats why you're trying to control the stretch.

 

[NFR]

Can't wait to seee how they turn-out in the stadium. I just thats why you're trying to control the stretch.

Here's one that was finished down the aisle of a stadium. It dried 3.5 grams short of a QP.

From the beginning my intentions were to see if the bud blood would control stretch at all if you were to simply add it to what ever feeding reg you use. Controling stretch for any of my strains has never been a consideration. I just top, cut branches or remove. In this case, I have some oversized Kush plants as well so the experiment is generally for the whole room. I left dozens of plants untopped with the idea that if things did way overgrow anyways, I'd just remove plants.

The blockbery seems to natually grow big and round and take up space. I typically throw 3 of my blockberry mothers on upside down buckets down the aisle, under the lights. Some of these dry to 1/4 lb. Not bad for 6 throw away mothers in what I use to consider useless space down the aisle. The Blockberry's on my shelves were there for clones only before I flipped. Tossing those have provided lots of room.

I never even considered the bud blood until someone put a sample in my hands. The over sized room could have been easily controlled otherwise. It's fine now. I may still remove 3 or 4 plants. The right hand room looks great except some of the smaller plants wont add up. I've been swapping a few of these room to room.

I'll post pics soon. I have a lot of stuff to take care of over the next couople of days.

 

[outdoe]

Here's one that was finished down the aisle of a stadium. It dried 3.5 grams short of a QP.

From the beginning my intentions were to see if the bud blood would control stretch at all if you were to simply add it to what ever feeding reg you use. Controling stretch for any of my strains has never been a consideration. I just top, cut branches or remove. In this case, I have some oversized Kush plants as well so the experiment is generally for the whole room. I left dozens of plants untopped with the idea that if things did way overgrow anyways, I'd just remove plants.

The blockbery seems to natually grow big and round and take up space. I typically throw 3 of my blockberry mothers on upside down buckets down the aisle, under the lights. Some of these dry to 1/4 lb. Not bad for 6 throw away mothers in what I use to consider useless space down the aisle. The Blockberry's on my shelves were there for clones only before I flipped. Tossing those have provided lots of room.

I never even considered the bud blood until someone put a sample in my hands. The over sized room could have been easily controlled otherwise. It's fine now. I may still remove 3 or 4 plants. The right hand room looks great except some of the smaller plants wont add up. I've been swapping a few of these room to room.

I'll post pics soon. I have a lot of stuff to take care of over the next couople of days.

keep us posted.
its funny how you get a qp off a plant under the verticle light as a paper study on here stated no light was getting underneath there. Unless its been proven not to work cant say it dont work. love the blockberry by the way

 

[toohighmf]

''you must spread some more reputation to others before giving it to NFR again"

 

[NFR]

keep us posted.
its funny how you get a qp off a plant under the verticle light as a paper study on here stated no light was getting underneath there. Unless its been proven not to work cant say it dont work. love the blockberry by the way

Well, it's not quite like that. I usually only put 3 plants like that because they can get up between the bulbs a bit without burning. Also, my bulbs are hanging less than two feet apart. There is so much overlapping light compared to someone who would have 1 bulb per 4 square feet per say. I also pump some pretty cool air down the aisle so I can do this.

My system is supercharged with light. People comment often how it is poor use of light. I blow em away for weight x floor space and that's what it really is about for me.

Thanks on the rep and comments guys.

 

[toohighmf]

I'm thinking of doing a SOG NFT Stadium grow w my fence post, but am considering going hexogonal. have you gone hex or octo before? what you think of little to no veg and flipping quite a few instead of less bigger girls? wouldn't 360 lighting vertically technically double your current set up? I know things in theory don't always work as good as they do on paper, so I ask if you've gone 360 and if you saw any difference in yeilds between the 2?
and NFT stadium would be so easy, but if I'm going to maximize my potential, I wanna go all the way. thanks

 

[NFR]

I'm thinking of doing a SOG NFT Stadium grow w my fence post, but am considering going hexogonal. have you gone hex or octo before? what you think of little to no veg and flipping quite a few instead of less bigger girls? wouldn't 360 lighting vertically technically double your current set up? I know things in theory don't always work as good as they do on paper, so I ask if you've gone 360 and if you saw any difference in yeilds between the 2?
and NFT stadium would be so easy, but if I'm going to maximize my potential, I wanna go all the way. thanks

I've stricly done rectangle stadiums except for 3 runs of tables. I don't always have the right space for stadiums.

I think highly of smaller plants. If you can keep up with the clone demand and have the right strain... For most of the years I have been running 5 shelves each side and 1 gal grow bags all in tight and touching. I've had problems keeping up with clone demand and with the new mandatory sentencing involving numbers....I'm heading for less and bigger. We started 3 shelves in 2 gals in the early 90's. The finish time was much longer but one of us got a whopping 16 lbs off 4 bulbs once.

I typically flipped after 7-10 days. Thats from transplanting a freshly rooted clone right into the room. We usuall hit 12-13+ lbs with a handfull of crops between 14-15. Thats with 8 bulbs though. The one extra crop a year boost the annual numbers as well.

Theren is a wealth of imformation in my old HP Stadium thread. Its a very long read though(550+ pages) and there maybe a lot of stuff you will find irrelivent or not make sense...

Flipping with no veg period at all is something we tried with the first couple runs of 5 shelvers. We never got the root mass or the secondary to call it a success when they were finished. We were pretty green back then though and I've seen good numbers like that with micro grows. Thats not my area though.

 

[toohighmf]

thanks for the input. As far as numbers go, I have no problems legally, I have 250 recs. & a lot of mother stock. I already have my fencepost and caps cut, as well as all my plumbing from my last show. looks like I'm building a pair of stadiums in my next thread. my biggest issue is spacing. since I'm running rw cubes that sit in the channels, how high would you space them vertically? I'm going to run some pineapple Cindy 1 side, and either Chem D and Bubba together, or just straight SFV_OG. depends on how many kids I can get off the D. I really want to run it vert. SFV vert would need to be flipped back right away in vert. it just stretches too much. thanks for the advice. I will read what I can in your older thread.

 

[NFR]

thanks for the input. As far as numbers go, I have no problems legally, I have 250 recs. & a lot of mother stock. I already have my fencepost and caps cut, as well as all my plumbing from my last show. looks like I'm building a pair of stadiums in my next thread. my biggest issue is spacing. since I'm running rw cubes that sit in the channels, how high would you space them vertically? I'm going to run some pineapple Cindy 1 side, and either Chem D and Bubba together, or just straight SFV_OG. depends on how many kids I can get off the D. I really want to run it vert. SFV vert would need to be flipped back right away in vert. it just stretches too much. thanks for the advice. I will read what I can in your older thread.

Do you mean the shelves? I make sure I have a coulple of feet for ceiling space and space the shelves 10-12 inches downwards. Grow bags sit about 10 inches high with soil. I use hard pots painted white now.

All kinds of info here...

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=57927

 

[outdoe]

Well, it's not quite like that. I usually only put 3 plants like that because they can get up between the bulbs a bit without burning. Also, my bulbs are hanging less than two feet apart. There is so much overlapping light compared to someone who would have 1 bulb per 4 square feet per say. I also pump some pretty cool air down the aisle so I can do this.

My system is supercharged with light. People comment often how it is poor use of light. I blow em away for weight x floor space and that's what it really is about for me.

Thanks on the rep and comments guys.

gotcha thought we bust another myth

 

[barnyard08]

Here's one that was finished down the aisle of a stadium. It dried 3.5 grams short of a QP.

From the beginning my intentions were to see if the bud blood would control stretch at all if you were to simply add it to what ever feeding reg you use. Controling stretch for any of my strains has never been a consideration. I just top, cut branches or remove. In this case, I have some oversized Kush plants as well so the experiment is generally for the whole room. I left dozens of plants untopped with the idea that if things did way overgrow anyways, I'd just remove plants.

The blockbery seems to natually grow big and round and take up space. I typically throw 3 of my blockberry mothers on upside down buckets down the aisle, under the lights. Some of these dry to 1/4 lb. Not bad for 6 throw away mothers in what I use to consider useless space down the aisle. The Blockberry's on my shelves were there for clones only before I flipped. Tossing those have provided lots of room.

I never even considered the bud blood until someone put a sample in my hands. The over sized room could have been easily controlled otherwise. It's fine now. I may still remove 3 or 4 plants. The right hand room looks great except some of the smaller plants wont add up. I've been swapping a few of these room to room.

I'll post pics soon. I have a lot of stuff to take care of over the next couople of days.

Very nice plant NFR I've read about the block and it's a good producing plant and it's in high demand thats one of the reason I asked where you get it from I figured it's a cross someone made, but please explain the upside down bucket for me.

I did build a stadium of course off of your design but I never actully used it because I think I builted it to big it's 13x9x with about 7ft ceiling the problem is there is too much weight on the 2x16 that I cut to fit in the room and on on side I had to put a AC and I placed it to low.
So I would'nt have equal rows on each side I was a little to excited when I read what you was pulling weight wise that I didn't plan all that well I'm still going to try it probablly with bigger plants on the side with the air conditioner but any ideals would help.

 

[NFR]

Thanks for the new *negetive* rep Shrooms!

I only considered posts *not helpfull* that were repeatedly trying to explain something to me that I had stated I understood enough times. Sorry you took it personal. I tried many times to get the message across on this thread and used that feature in the end eventually.

Thanks again. It's the first time in two accounts that I've had any. Your participation is much appreciated.

 

[cannaboy]

Good set uo NFR I like your room designs. Another good thread.

 

[NFR]

[Very nice plant NFR I've read about the block and it's a good producing plant and it's in high demand thats one of the reason I asked where you get it from I figured it's a cross someone made, but please explain the upside down bucket for me.

The upside down buckets get the plant off the floor and into the light. I need the plants to sit at a similiar height as my bottom shelves. Anything will do. I just have a lot of buckets around.

 

[krushonkush]

Shit man, I tried to give ya neg rep be I keep getting this!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to NFR again.

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