Friends say they are against legalization

[JackTheGrower]

Bro...first off, 16 X 750 is 1200, not 12,000!!!
But that is not how you do it anyways--
There are only 46.88 ozs in 750 pounds-- You simply take 750 and divide it by 16 to get the ozs--
Seems that your simple math skills need some honing!!

Maybe I am not seeing that correctly today but I am not on crack.

1000 ounces / 16 is 62.5 lbs per month?

62.5 pounds times 12 is 750 lbs yes?
750 times 16 is the ounces right?
that is 12,000 ounces? Did I do that right?

Hey I make all kinds of math mistakes all the time.. Try doing maths in binary by hand.. I have to check three times just to feel close to all right.

 

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No problem,

 

[kmk420kali]

It seems that I am the one who was wrong-- You have my appologies...but yeah, I was just playin about the crack thing-- Lighten up, life is too short for anger--lol

It seems ya'll missed this--
Sorry all, I musta been on crack!! lol (Just an expression I use with my friends...spose to be funny-ish)
Got too many things going on at once...please forgive me...or should I just commit Seppuku immediatly!! lol!!

 

[kmk420kali]

I accept your apology..now what the hell are you smokin..lol

Thanks... LA Confidential--

 

[JackTheGrower]

well will we see the police in those little traffic three wheel things stopping house to house counting and measuring gardens..

Will the emblem on that meter-maid scooter say Cannabis Patrol?

 

[kmk420kali]

Maybe I am not seeing that correctly today but I am not on crack.

1000 ounces / 16 is 62.5 lbs per month?

62.5 pounds times 12 is 750 lbs yes?
750 times 16 is the ounces right?
that is 12,000 ounces? Did I do that right?

Hey I make all kinds of math mistakes all the time.. Try doing maths in binary by hand.. I have to check three times just to feel close to all right.

I had my 11 year old daughter doing the math for me from the other room...now I know why she is failing math!! (Genetics!! lol)

 

[Hazelnuts]

Check NORML most states are $3.50 per gram or $100 per ounce tax. I am thinking that California would bump it even higher.
They need the money, of course.

WTF man, the taxes in the couple of states that still have some kind of tax stamp law to fuck busted growers in the ass 2x (manufacture AND tax evasion) even though it's unconstitutional don't count, that tax is bullshit. The CA bill calls for $50 an ounce tax which is not THAT unreasonable, but still pretty high, but it's certainly not $145 an ounce.

Also, if legalization went through, you'd be able to grow at home FOR SURE. And they wouldn't tax it, just look at the cali bill. The grow space you get there isn't much, but it's enough for personal use. If they suggested a tax on personal grows, the bill wouldn't make it through the first hearing IMO (cause if there even was such a bill up for vote, the climate in the senate/house of reps would be different, so people would realize that taxing personal grows is bullshit and would lead to the same problems we're having now with prohibition).

 

[JackTheGrower]

I had my 11 year old daughter doing the math for me from the other room...now I know why she is failing math!! (Genetics!! lol)

No1 They don't get into ratios until later on.. NP.. I have to be really kind on myself over math errors.. Really Not a problem.. It was a funny on you but to poke your eye over it is not my style with math trust me..


when I spent a couple months working out an encoder only to discover that i was in error on the original codex was a real blow but that's part of the learning experience

 

[JackTheGrower]

WTF man, the taxes in the couple of states that still have some kind of tax stamp law to fuck busted growers in the ass 2x (manufacture AND tax evasion) even though it's unconstitutional don't count, that tax is bullshit. The CA bill calls for $50 an ounce tax which is not THAT unreasonable, but still pretty high, but it's certainly not $145 an ounce.

That's commercial right?

Homegrown has no tax hopefully.

 

[Chong_Irie]

If cannabis is legalized then there is NO WAY the government will let people grow it on their own. There is just too much money at stake, you can already see the greed with the clubs in the So Cal area. TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN HOW TO GROW AND YOU WONT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE BS!!!

 

[JackTheGrower]

If cannabis is legalized then there is NO WAY the government will let people grow it on their own. There is just too much money at stake, you can already see the greed with the clubs in the So Cal area. TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN HOW TO GROW AND YOU WONT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE BS!!!

They havn't stopped us so far!

 

[Hazelnuts]

If cannabis is legalized then there is NO WAY the government will let people grow it on their own. There is just too much money at stake, you can already see the greed with the clubs in the So Cal area. TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN HOW TO GROW AND YOU WONT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE BS!!!

You're wrong, man. 1. look at the bills being proposed in diff. states at the moment, all of them allow for personal UNTAXED, UNREGISTERED grows at home. 2. They (government/legislators) know that creating a more or less free market will cause prices to plummet to around 50-100 bucks an ounce for primo shit, including a (already pretty high) tax. Most people wouldn't be willing to go through the trouble of growing at home, so the tax revenue of the government wouldn't be endangered too much. Also, they'd even make money off of a legalization even if there was no tax collected at all, just think about the billions they spend on law enforcement annually.

That's commercial right?

Homegrown has no tax hopefully.

No, homegrown wouldn't be taxed, they're only talking about a commercial sales tax.

 

[Pythagllio]

No way the gov't will let us grow our own? Have they ever been able to stop it? Hell, how about put a significant dent in it? Perhaps you mean they won't authorize it. But it's absurd to suggest that the people who grow today are going to quit doing so if they legalize retail sales but say no home growing.

 

[Chong_Irie]

Hazelnuts, that might be how the bills are proposed but do you think that is how they are going to be passed?
Do you think that magically people who make the decisions for this country will all of a sudden accept us?

Pythagllio: I might have said it wrong, but there is no way I think people who are already doing it are going to stop. I'm saying that IMO they are going to come down hard on those who try to keep the Gov't out of it.

My point in whole is pretty much this: MARIJUANA IS GOING TO BE ABSORBED INTO THIS SYSTEM AND WHATEVER IT WAS MEANT TO DO WILL BE LOST! WE MIGHT WIN A BATTLE BUT WE WILL LOSE THE WAR...

 

[Hazelnuts]

Hazelnuts, that might be how the bills are proposed but do you think that is how they are going to be passed?

Well the draft from oakland and the other one (the oakland sucks pretty hard btw, but it's something) aren't bills, they're propositions and as far as I know can't be altered before coming on the ballot. The assembly bill IDK about, but I doubt they're gonna be able to push an amendment that would force taxes on personal grows through, too many people would point out the inconsistency to the laws regarding home production of alcoholic beverages. Also, my other point still stands, they don't have a reason to tax personal grows since not so many people would actually grow at home with prices going down like they would in a free market

 

[Rustylions]

Just putting it out there if one of my friends said that I'd knock them out. Friend or not that kind of action I regard as a unforgivable betrayal of the human race. Selling out millions of peoples chance to get potent and legal buds for their own personal gain. Sickening.

RL

 

[JackTheGrower]

Just putting it out there if one of my friends said that I'd knock them out. Friend or not that kind of action I regard as a unforgivable betrayal of the human race. Selling out millions of peoples chance to get potent and legal buds for their own personal gain. Sickening.

RL

Well it's a tight rope.. We owe the pvt-growers a debt but not the cash kind IMO.

 

[ourcee]

there are wines that go for well over 100 a bottle, there are wines that go for 2 a bottle.

theres stress then theres fire.

dont think that legalization means you cannot make money, think of the MARGINS rather than the actual amount.

good weed will ALWAYS have a profitable margin. always.

yeah you might not get 4k a lb, but I see heirloom tomatoes going for upwards of 6 to 7 bucks a lb all day every day.

I grow 20 lbs of tomatoes on one plant without even trying. You think it costs me over $100 to grow that one tomato plant? please. Maybe a few bux worth of nutes, maybe. If I were to grow and sell heirloom tomatoes direct to consumer, my margins would be higher than weed.

so think of it like this, you buy an ounce for 250, sell it for 300, 20% profit margin there.

buy an ounce for $20 and sell it for $24, you just made the same margin.

yeah you have to sell a lot more ounces to make those thousands, but then again, if it were legalized and treated like what it truly is, a plant, you and everyone else is gonna toke as much if not more.
you have no risk of going to jail for 5 years for having 20 plants in your back yard (I've got 20 heads of lettuce that require the same amount of time/effort to grow, just not as much when it comes time to trim) You think a $50 head of lettuce is expensive? When it costs pennies to produce you will not have multi hundred % profit margins.

so I mean its great to get paid to do minimal work, but wake up, if you feel like you should get paid 4k a lb to slang the finest organic heads of lettuce, you are in a dream world where cost/risk/involvement aren't the factors you use to base your pricing, which is what every dealer does right now, if you dont have risks, theres still money to make because you have a product with VALUE, yeah you cant charge for the "risk" aspect (the only reason herb costs what it does) but thats because there is a massively reduced risk!

You wanna sell more than johnny pot dealer on the other corner, do what all legal businesses do, compete.

Theres still money to be made even if its legalized, but will it be like you are literally growing thousands of dollars from a garden the size of a closet? no, sorry, living a productive and successful life SHOULD be more than making two phone calls. Anyone against legalization just for the fact of it dropping the price means to me that its just the money to them, why be productive for 8 hrs a day when you can do 30 mins worth of work and fuck off the rest of the time?

sorry life aint so easy when you cant charge 500% interest.

 

[Hazelnuts]

My point in whole is pretty much this: MARIJUANA IS GOING TO BE ABSORBED INTO THIS SYSTEM AND WHATEVER IT WAS MEANT TO DO WILL BE LOST! WE MIGHT WIN A BATTLE BUT WE WILL LOSE THE WAR...

Yeah totally, let's not even fucking TRY and put up a fight, right? Sorry mate but your POV isn't exactly what we need in order to move forward...