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Which is it?
Why is medical marijuana so expensive?
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Which is it?
Blue Dot lies through his teeth. Again. I do not, and never said that I did.
It is what it is. Which particular word didn't you understand?
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Blue Dot
Ofr course supply and demand are in play and that's the problem.
The demand is higher then the clubs can supply so patients WILL buy oldy/moldy for the same price as good/fresh because THEY HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE and the clubs pray on this. Duh.
Just one little problem, there are business laws in place that protect against this very practice but the clubs like to conveniently play dumb.
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Are they fully 100% in compliance or are the skirting ("getting around") the rules.
They can't have it both ways.
Laws to protect against supply and demand? Are you kidding me? There are laws against price gouging and as long as clubs are selling product for somewhere around 2X what they payed for it then there is no way they are price gouging. And you know just as well as I do that they have alternatives in the form of hundreds of other places to buy from. I mean you were bitching about there being more dispensaries than starbucks not long ago. There is plenty of choices out there, people. just have to exercise their power to choose and not settle for bad sub par bud.
Blue Dot says prices are up because demand is higher than supply. Wow BD, you don't say. So BD, next question is, why are you so hell bent on diminishing supply?
Then Blue Dot lies again, and claims that patients have no alternative bhut to visit a dispensary and pay top dollar for top shelf. Nothing could be further from the truth. This even in a response where he ignores my question about why he thinks Mr. Lee prevents Ms. Corral and those of her mindset from doing their thing.
Does the disinformation ever stop coming from BD's keyboard? Is there any question whatever that facts are of no concern to him, only his agenda?
Anyway BD, it's bedtime for Pythagllio. I'll look forward to reading more of your nonsensical, irrational and inaccurate comments tomorrow.
Then Blue Dot lies again, and claims that patients have no alternative bhut to visit a dispensary and pay top dollar for top shelf. Nothing could be further from the truth. This even in a response where he ignores my question about why he thinks Mr. Lee prevents Ms. Corral and those of her mindset from doing their thing.
Does the disinformation ever stop coming from BD's keyboard? Is there any question whatever that facts are of no concern to him, only his agenda?
Anyway BD, it's bedtime for Pythagllio. I'll look forward to reading more of your nonsensical, irrational and inaccurate comments tomorrow.
Actually they can. You see it's you who doesn't understand how things work. I gave you some examples above of how it might happen. Study on it. Don't strain your brain too much as there's really not much left of it to spare.
Nighty night.
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Really? So here in San Diego when a club is gouging me cause they have the market cornered I can just go down the street to the other 100 dispensaries around?
At most i think SD had like 30 dispensaries before the busts and that's for the 8th largest city in the country.
you do the math.
This makes no sense. In a market where demand is higher than supply, the clubs should have high turnover and no "30 day old" moldy meds. You seems to be mixing and matching a bit of reality from over here with a bit from over there and trying to sell it as the reality that supports your argument.
Boo.
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Even pyth agrees that demand is higher then supply.
What world are you living in?
He miss typed you Ass Clown, he was pointing out that demand is high as you say and therefor the clubs can't have stuff sit for months and get moldy.
I just looked back and saw your first post in this thread was 9/21/09, almost two months ago. You live in San Diego one of the nicest places on Earth and instead of PRODUCE you bitch and moan.
Funny in the two months you produced nothing and bitched A LOT, my guess is Pyth, Nomaad, and almost everyone else on this thread helped med patients a million times more than you, because they are growing.
I'm going to smoke some amazing home grown hydro Purple Kush now and finish my wine.
Peace,
He miss typed you Ass Clown, he was pointing out that demand is high as you say and therefor the clubs can't have stuff sit for months and get moldy.
I just looked back and saw your first post in this thread was 9/21/09, almost two months ago. You live in San Diego one of the nicest places on Earth and instead of PRODUCE you bitch and moan.
Funny in the two months you produced nothing and bitched A LOT, my guess is Pyth, Nomaad, and almost everyone else on this thread helped med patients a million times more than you, because they are growing.
I'm going to smoke some amazing home grown hydro Purple Kush now and finish my wine.
Peace,
i corrected my mistake. thanks for clearing up the obvious.
on my end, its been a good two months for patients... the ones that can afford to pay top dollar for the high quality meds I grew AND for those that can not. Looks like almost TEN POUNDS of concentrate and another couple of pounds of popcorn will be distributed at no cost to the neediest of patients. Not one grower I approached gave a second thought to making a donation.
Blue Dot et al could be spending their time organizing against the problems they see rather than whining about it. Hundreds of pounds of meds would just be GIVEN away if more people would be ACTIVE in making it happen. Many of the "greedy" people you bitch and moan about are just waiting for an opportunity to give something back. Just tell em where to drop it off.
Revolutionary cred is only gained by actually doing something revolutionary. Whining does not count. The "capitalism ruins everything" complaint in your sig is a joke. Capitalism is what you've got. Either do something concrete to ease its effects on the needy or pick up a rifle and challenge it through force of arms... or shut the fuck up already.
Yes. They can. You're wrong on that point Blue Dot.
When the issue which you appear to object to is as nebulous and imprecise a term as "profit", then you certainly can be "fully in compliance" and certified as so by an auditor who is acting 100% completely within the established legal practices used to compute profits within commercial ventures. You can do this and still account for revenue in a transparent manner which nevertheless diverts a big chunk of revenue to legal profit makers B, C, D, E, F and G all of which reflect a cost to non-profit maker A, so as to make the whole thing "fully compliant".
Do remember that when it comes to minimizing "profits", or making them legally disappear, there are a plethora of generally accepted accounting practices to assist in making that happen -- in a manner that Pyth has already provided many acceptable specific examples.
Those practices would never pass muster if the test to be applied was equity and fairness as is used in shareholder oppression cases. If that was the test, all those "illegal profits" and diversion of revenue would be caught. But under generally accepted accounting practices to simply assign profits as between various non-arm's length corporations? Sure. No problem. No problem at all.
I think the problem Blue Dot is that the standard you prefer to be applied is the one used in oppression cases, not the one applied to auditors in tax cases. They are very different tests.
If I might break in to this with a useful comment? Any system which has as its legislative motive, the prevention of an accumulation of "profit" by a commercial entity is inevitably going to be chasing its tail from the very start. It's WAY too easy to split up the business in to various corporations between non-arm's length entities to divert revenue to one by imposing inter-corporate charges to another as an expense.
While that may be "skirting" to Blue Dot, that's "fully compliant" under generally accepted accounting principles. And that's the legal standard Bluedot. It's not something else, okay?
If you want to draft your legislation so that the standard to be applied is an oppression standard, and to treat all non-arm's length transactions as being the same entity? You could do it. But then the defence will be straw men corporations and individuals being held out to be arm's length -- when in fact they are not. It's a really messy problem of evidence which becomes highly impractical for law enforcement to deal with. It works in oppression cases, because the real owners know the real truth -- and will bring those facts to the attention of the court. But for outsiders to prove? Good luck with all that. You just turned every case into it's own RICO investigation. You aren't just raiding a dispensary or doing a buy and bust; instead, you'll be fighting a Hydra with a dozen legal heads who will resist you every step of the way. And your search warrants will never get you to where you want to be on their own.
In something like collectives and dispensaries? Far, far more difficult. The costs of monitoring and enforcing such a system don't just need cops with wiretaps. They'll need an army of lawyers and accountants. Once you go there with your legislation, you are setting up a problem for enforcement that government will find FAR too expensive to enforce. It can't even do that enforcement when regulating something as relatively transparent as the capital markets. Now you want to throw in MMJ? To what end?
Resistance
In technical analysis, a price above which a security does not rise, or only rarely rises. Technical analysts identify a resistance level by looking at past performance. When the security approaches the resistance level, it is seen as an indication to sell the security, which will increase the supply, causing the security's price to fall back below the resistance level. If there are too many buyers, however, the security rises above the resistance level. When this occurs, the price of the security will likely continue to rise until it finds another resistance level.
Support
In technical analysis, a price that a security does not or only rarely falls below. Technical analysts identify a support level by looking at past performance. It is seen as an indication to buy the security, which will increase the demand, causing the security's price to move above the support level. The demand comes from investors who fail to buy the security at the support price, and resolve to do so if it reaches that price again. If buyers are not forthcoming, however, the security falls below the support level. When this occurs, the price of the security will likely continue to drop until it finds another support level.
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I cant believe this thread is still open lol, its a useless topic that can go on for ages. Its all common sense, if you don't like the price then don't fucken buy it. The world is full of evil, greed, thieves ect ect, and seeing the way the economy is, people are more likely to get got. Its sad some people charge what they do, but it is what it is, deal with it
the Wholesale price of cannabis has gone down in the last three years while the retail price has stayed the same.
the sad part is that the Dispensary's never passed that cost savings on to the patients. the real freedom fighters are the growers, who are getting dicked by the Dispensarys, and people who smoke cannabis everyday and are otherwise law abiding citizens.
that's why the price of Cannabis is what it is today in LA COUNTY. i can't speak for other areas. The D's in LA County have driven the wholesale price of herb to historic lows while very few places have "caps" at 45 an 1/8th which if you smoke an 1/8th a day, figure out how compassionate that even is....
hey Red Dot on your forehead: Percocets are more than 30 days old that you get a Rite Aid, so is most other meds. DO you realize how old the food is in your grocery store?
prob not, because thin blue lines eat donuts and get fat and become thick blue lines that can't run too fast.
the sad part is that the Dispensary's never passed that cost savings on to the patients. the real freedom fighters are the growers, who are getting dicked by the Dispensarys, and people who smoke cannabis everyday and are otherwise law abiding citizens.
that's why the price of Cannabis is what it is today in LA COUNTY. i can't speak for other areas. The D's in LA County have driven the wholesale price of herb to historic lows while very few places have "caps" at 45 an 1/8th which if you smoke an 1/8th a day, figure out how compassionate that even is....
hey Red Dot on your forehead: Percocets are more than 30 days old that you get a Rite Aid, so is most other meds. DO you realize how old the food is in your grocery store?
prob not, because thin blue lines eat donuts and get fat and become thick blue lines that can't run too fast.
perfect example of BLue Dot's inability to
1. answer a question
2. use reason
3. use common sense
The demand is not higher than supply. Ever been to a dispensary in SoCal? Pre ICO i had to wait in line in Los Angeles sometimes for half an hour to an hour at the D's that had the lowest priced meds. This is no longer true in LA COUNTY since the explosion in Dispensary's.
You would reason, using logic, that the retail price would have gone down, but NO, in fact, only the WHOLESALE price of cannabis has gone down with the proliferation of Dispensarys. I guess the extra profit went to take the crew of "employees" to Vegas, or Yoga classes that were never offered to me. Just sayin'.
Anyways, i could care less because i grow herb for myself now and no longer rely on the Dispensaries in LA County.
I no longer have to wait in line for very long in LA county (when i do have to go to a D) but the prices have not gone down with competition.
riddle me that.
Simply a function of more counter people. People aren't driving all the way across town to stand in line in front of you.
Funny, earlier this year LA D's were paying out much better than up here in the Bay area. Bumper out door crop this year though.
Funny, earlier this year LA D's were paying out much better than up here in the Bay area. Bumper out door crop this year though.
true but i'd rather wait an hour and save $20 per 1/8th. that's 20 an hour i could be making by saving.
i have to wait half an hour at right aid for my gut meds. LA is a waiting game anywhere you go.
